Dwells on past relationship

healthinfo6 · Post by **healthinfo6** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:31 pm

What is the remedy for someone who can't get over a relationship that has ended, dwells on it, can't move forward to meet new people or finds fault with anyone new, makes contact with ex occasionally when breaks down and lonely? This wasn't a true relationship but would be considered a mistress over 7 years with a married man. Mostly sexual but strong feelings developed. This person was previously divorced and severely hurt by ex-husband who left her for younger woman and has contact and working relationship with ex due to children and financial support.
I know this person needs much deeper homeopathic treatment but would have severe aggravations and immediately be scared away from homeopathy, I learned from previously trying a simple herbal detox for overall health reasons, had severe symptoms after just one pill on first day, so very toxic and wouldn't continue that detox.
I wanted to try something just for this aspect to try and move her forward without going deep, if possible.
Susan

rochelle_marsden · Post by **rochelle_marsden** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:42 pm

Personally I would say she is in a grief situation and give Ignatia. I have found that Ignatia works well for this situation.

Rochelle

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Lucy De Pieri · Post by **Lucy De Pieri** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:57 pm

Hi Rochelle

Mind Dwells - past disagreeable occurrences, on: (84) aids.nl2 am-c.bg2,k Ambr.br1,k anthraq.rly4 arg-n.k asar.jl3 Aur-m-n.wbt2 aur-s.wbt2,zr ben-n.zzz Benz-ac.a1,br1,k bora-o.oss1 bros-gau.mrc1 bung-fa.mtf calc.bg2,gl1.fr,j,st1,vh calc-p.brm caust.fd,gb,gk Cham.k Chin.k cob-n.mg1.de Cocc.k coloc.brm Con.k cop.a1,k cur.sne cycl.sne dros.sne Dulc.fd4.de elapsgk0 fic-m.gya1 form.k glon.a1,k goss.st1,vh granit-m.es1 graph.zzz haliae-lc.srj5 hep.bg2,k hydrog.srj2 hyos.bg2,st1,vh IGN.vh,vh/dg,vhx1 Kali-c.sne0 Kali-p.st1 kali-s.fkr2.de kiss.a1 kolastb3 kreos.k lac-h.sk4 lac-lup.hrn2 lil-t.k2 lunakg1 LYC.bg2,k1,kl2,st meny.k mez.k musca-d.szs1 NAT-M.bg2,k,kl2,mrr1,vh Nit-ac.bg2,k,mtf33,vh/dg,vhx1 op.gl1.fr opun-s.a1 Ph-ac.zzz phos.bg2,st1,vh pin-con.oss2 plac.rzf5 Plat.k positr.nl2 psor.bg,sf1.de puls.gb ratt-norv-s.hrn2 Rhus-g.tmo3 rhus-t.k ros-d.wla1 sal-fr.sle1 sars.kr1 Sep.bg2,k spong.h1 staph.gl1.fr suis-em.rly4 Sulph.bg2,hr1,k symph.fd,gb syph.st1 thuj.bg2,sf1.de tritic-vg.fd5.de ulm-c.zzz vanil.fd5.de verat.sf1.de visc.jl3,sp1
Ignatia is but one of the remedies, but Nat-mur is also there as is Lyc.

It depends on how she present. Does she like salt, being by the ocean, is she defensive, closed, cautious, wall around her? Is her grief silence? if there is a lot of sighing or contradictions on what she says, Ignatia would be better. But if there is a great thirst, worse <10am, < by consolation then Nat-mur would be better for her.
By the way, I found that when I am thinking of Nat-mur I also look at Lac-humanum, as I find that is the deeper remedy that could cover more of the case. It really depends on the totality of the representing symptoms not just one part of the case

I hope this helps
Lucy
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Personally I would say she is in a grief situation and give Ignatia. I have found that Ignatia works well for this situation.

Rochelle

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Leilanae · Post by **Leilanae** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:53 pm

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Have you thought about a Bach Flower or one of the lines of flower essences?

Leilanae

Lynn Cremona · Post by **Lynn Cremona** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:50 am

From "A Modern Guide and Index to The Mental Rubrics of Kent's Repertory" by David Sault
"The main connection to "Dwells on past disagreeable events" is Brooding, but there would be a difference between them in
that Ignatia is the main remedy in Brooding whereas Nat mur is the main remedy in Dwells.
This would indicate that Brooding is concerned with present or recent grievances whereas Dwells
refers to grievances a long time past."

other possible rubrics:
Complaining, offenses long past
Weeping or crying about past events
Indignation
Inconsolable
Recalls bad memories
Thoughts, persistent unpleasan
Thoughts, tormenting

Best,
Lynn
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Shannon Nelson · Post by **Shannon Nelson** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:17 am

It also sounds so much like the "falls in love with the coachman" (was that it?) of Nat-m -- pining over inappropriate relationship. Plus it has been going on for so long. Whatever remedy you choose, IMO 6c is a good, deep-yet-gentle potency.

rochelle_marsden · Post by **rochelle_marsden** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:39 am

Hi Lucy,

It wasn't me who asked about this but Susan. What I suggested - the Ignatia- is what I have found in clinical practice works best for people who need to get over relationships which is what the issue realy is here.

All the best
Rochelle

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Lucy De Pieri · Post by **Lucy De Pieri** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:04 am

Sorry, got the wrong name, yes it was addressed to Susan
Lucy
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Hi Lucy,

It wasn't me who asked about this but Susan. What I suggested - the Ignatia- is what I have found in clinical practice works best for people who need to get over relationships which is what the issue realy is here.

All the best
Rochelle

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Irene de Villiers · Post by **Irene de Villiers** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:31 pm

Is it not a dual process - getting over a relationship AND re-acquiring self-esteem, and needing both in balance?
My idea in first aid is to address the negative (past in this case) and the positive (future in this case) in a balanced way - such as for example, Ignatia for the past trauma (negative aspect) balanced with Staphisagria for going forward to the future (positive aspect), as the appropriate first aid.

This principle gives sure results in other systems too - Bach remedies for example. I blend flower essences to include an essence for a future positive aspect, (along with essence/s for the the negative issue/s to be overcome), and find that gives sure results. It's a basic principle - the principle of
"not this, but that".
If one just says "not this" - it is much harder to recover, as there is no help with direction forward.

Namaste,
Irene

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rochelle_marsden · Post by **rochelle_marsden** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:33 pm

Yes Irene - I also use Bach Flower remedies. I make up mixtures after checking with the patient that they agree with the description of what that remedy does.

All the best
Rochelle
Irene posted:-

Is it not a dual process - getting over a relationship AND re-acquiring
self-esteem, and needing both in balance?
My idea in first aid is to address the negative (past in this case) and the
positive (future in this case) in a balanced way - such as for example, Ignatia
for the past trauma (negative aspect) balanced with Staphisagria for going
forward to the future (positive aspect), as the appropriate first aid.

This principle gives sure results in other systems too - Bach remedies for
example. I blend flower essences to include an essence for a future positive
aspect, (along with essence/s for the the negative issue/s to be overcome), and
find that gives sure results. It's a basic principle - the principle of
"not this, but that".
If one just says "not this" - it is much harder to recover, as there is no help
with direction forward.

Namaste,
Irene

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