Hi All
Did anyone see the programe on Seroxat on Panorama on Monday night?   No 
Surprises for most of us, but criminal imo. Here is a link to a  transcript.
_http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6317137.stm_ 
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/p ... 317137.stm) 
Appologies if its been posted allready, too busy doing taax return, why do  I 
allways leave it till last minute and loose all the paperwork (Sulphur  10m?)
Or lets see if I can paste it in may be too long
 Secrets of the drugs trials: Transcript NB: THIS TRANSCRIPT WAS TYPED  FROM 
A TRANSCRIPTION UNIT RECORDING AND NOT COPIED FROM AN ORIGINAL SCRIPT:  
BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF MIS-HEARING AND THE DIFFICULTY, IN SOME CASES OF  
IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS, THE BBC CANNOT VOUCH FOR ITS ACCURACY. 
PANORAMA
SECRETS OF THE DRUG TRIALS
RECORDED FROM TRANSMISSION: BBC  ONE
DATE: 29:01:07 
JEREMY VINE: Hello, I'm Jeremy Vine and this is  Panorama. The secret emails 
you weren't supposed to see. The paper trail that  reveals how results of drug 
trials were glossed over to cover up a link with  suicide in teenagers. Now 
GlaxoSmithKline faces trial for fraud. 
When you  take your child to the doctor you assume the medicine they are 
prescribed is  safe and will help them get better. If your teenager is depressed, 
you certainly  don't expect the drug they're given to make them want to kill 
themselves. But  we've uncovered the story of how one company tried to hide the 
fact that it's  medicine did exactly that. Just watch this. 
Reporter: SHELLEY  JOFRE
Malibu, California. It's not where you'd expect to unravel one of the  
biggest medical scandals of recent times, but that's exactly what this team of  
lawyers has managed to do. What they've found affects all of us here in the UK,  
anyone in fact who takes prescription medicine. 
KAREN BARTH  MENZIES
Lawyer, Baum Hedlund
It is all about the profits. Even when they  have negative studies that show 
that this drug is going to harm kids they still  spin that study as: 
"remarkably effective and safe for children." 
JOFRE:  This apartment is crammed full of boxes containing a story that 
Britain's  richest drug company has fought hard to suppress. There's an 
embarrassment of  secrets here that GlaxoSmithKline really doesn't want you to see, and 
you're  about to discover why. 
So it's all stuff from the confidential  GlaxoSmithKline archives? 
BARTH MENZIES: Yeah, the internal documents, the  emails back and forth, the 
decisions that they make from the bottom to the top.  
SHELLEY JOFRE
These trade secrets are usually protected by law but  through a series of 
legal challenges the lawyers have forced many of them into  the open. Buried in 
all these boxes are details about secret clinical trials  programme that 
GlaxoSmithKline began over a decade ago for its antidepressant  Paroxatine, it's a 
drug that's better known in Britain by its brand name  Seroxat. It was hailed 
in the 90s as a wonder drug when it was launched as a  rival to Prosaic to 
treat depression and anxiety. GSK later promoted it as a  cure for everything from 
stress to shyness. By the new millennium 100 million  Seroxat prescriptions 
have been written worldwide bringing in 2 billion dollars  a year. With the 
adult market also all sewn up, the company then looked for new  ways to make 
money out of Seroxat. 
BARTH MENZIES: If they tested Seroxat for  children they would get a six 
month extension on their patent which means  enormous profits. It would become the 
antidepressant, being used worldwide for  children in depression. 
JOFRE: The documents in these boxes reveal how  hundreds of children with 
depression were recruited from around the world to  take part in three large 
scale clinical trials of Seroxat. The biggest of these  was in the US and came to 
be known as 'Study 329'. Its influence would reach  right across the Atlantic 
to British doctors looking for ways to treat depressed  children. 
STEPHANIE: She painted this when she was 16. 
JOFRE: And this  is Sharise. 
STEPHANIE: That is Sharise and I just love that painting.  
JOFRE: Six years ago Stephanie Gatchell took her daughter Sharise for a  
hospital appointment in Northamptonshire. Sharise hadn't yet started her periods  
and was worried about it. 
STEPHANIE GATCHELL
During that consultation she  became a bit emotional. I was amazed, she 
started crying, and he.. I clearly  remember him asking her: "Sharise, do you 
sometimes feel like ending it all?" I  couldn't believe it when she said: "Yes, I 
do." And then he started talking  about Seroxat and suggesting that she try 
that. 
JOFRE: Seroxat was only  licensed for adults but doctors can prescribe any 
medicine if they think it will  help their patient. It's called: 'off-label 
prescribing' and Sharise wasn't the  only teenager getting Seroxat off-label. 
Around 7000 children a year were on the  drug in Britain alone. Within days of 
starting on Seroxat Stephanie noticed a  dramatic change in her daughter. She 
became more confident but with it came  aggression and worse. 
STEPHANIE: One day in the kitchen her sleeve pulled up  slightly and I 
noticed that she... there were cut marks on her left arm. God! I  couldn't believe 
my eyes. She was obviously self-harming while she was on  Seroxat, something 
she'd never ever done before. 
JOFRE: Stephanie persuaded  her daughter to stop taking Seroxat but in 2003 
Sharise went back on the drug  without telling her mum. Her parents went away 
for the weekend, not realising  she was taking Seroxat again. 
STEPHANIE: The moment I walked into the house  I knew something was wrong. I 
ran upstairs before my husband came in, and the  moment I got to the landing 
at the top... (Steph breaks down, crying) ... she  was hanging... she was 
hanging from the loft hatch. I tried to revive her but  I... before I even started 
I realised I was too late. I could see that. I could  see it was too late, but 
she was still warm. 
JOFRE: Next to her daughter's  suicide note lay a packet of Seroxat. She 
instinctively blamed the drug, but she  couldn't have known what its maker knew. 
The company had tested the drug on  depressed children six years previously. 
One group took the drug, the other a  placebo - sugar pills. The results were 
unexpected: Seroxat proved no better  than the placebo. In one study seven of 
the 93 children who took Seroxat had to  be taken to hospital. Some had 
self-harmed like Sharise. 
BARTH  MENZIES
Baum Hedlund
It should have been the time where they at least by  then started warning 
physicians who prescribing this drug off label to stop  prescribing it to 
children, because not only is it not effective, it's not safe.  
Reconstruction 
JOFRE: There's no doubt the company knew it had a  problem. The product 
director for Seroxat in the UK admitted as much in an  internal memo to senior 
executives way back in 1998. It's one of dozens of  emails and memos seen by 
Panorama. 
Email dated: 14th October 1998 
"The  results of the studies were disappointing. The possibility of obtaining 
a safety  statement from this data was considered but rejected." 
JOFRE: In other words  they knew they wouldn't get a children's licence. 
[Email] "The best which  could have been achieved was a statement that 
although safety data was  reassuring, efficacy had not been demonstrated." 
JOFRE: They hadn't even  shown that the drug worked. 
[Email] "Consultation of the marketing teams  confirmed that this would be 
unacceptable commercially. 
JOFRE: Publishing  the data in full would put profits at risk. But if they 
couldn't get a  children's licence, could they find an unofficial way to market 
Seroxat for  childhood depression? Exit the doctors - enter the spin doctors. 
They would help  create a new story. Seroxat was safe and it did work for 
teenagers. The  inconvenient facts would be buried and the marketing people would 
spread the  good news to doctors around the world. Every stage in this 
clinical process is  contained within these boxes. 
BARTH MENZIES: They figured out ways that they  could downplay the risks, 
blow up out of proportion the supposed benefits or the  good sides of the study 
and really downplay the negative findings. 
JOFRE:  The next step was to use apparently independent academics to help, 
like  Professor Martin Keller. Head of Psychiatry at a prestigious university 
his name  is worth a lot to companies like GSK. 
BARTH MENZIES: They figured out well  if we use opinion users in the field, 
academics that everybody looks up to and  the leaders in the field to sell our 
product, doctors are going to be far more  influenced than by just regular 
sales representatives. 
JOFRE: So just what  quality should a key opinion leader possess. Here's 
professor Keller in his own  words giving video evidence to lawyers who are suing 
GlaxoSmithKline.  
Professor MARTIN KELLER
Brown University
You're respected for being  a.... um... how to put this, an honourable 
person, and therefore when you give  an opinion about something, people tend to 
listen and say oh, this individual  gave their opinion, it's worth considering. 
JOFRE: But how independent is  he? In a single year Martin Keller earned half 
a million dollars from drug  companies including GSK. His name is at the head 
of GSK's study 329 but how much  input did he really have? In a memo Dr 
Keller thanked a ghost writer for the  initial preparation of the manuscript, a 
ghost writer who works for a PR company  - a PR company hired by GSK. 
"You did a superb job with this. Thank you very  much. It is excellent. 
Enclosed are some rather minor changes from me..."  
JOFRE: Here's another letter from the ghost writer to Dr Keller. It says  
that all the necessary materials are enclosed so that he can submit study 329  
for publication, even down to the covering letter which says: "please re-type on 
 your letterhead. Revise if you wish." Ghost-written medical research like 
this  is becoming a real problem. 
Dr FIONA GODLEE
Editor, British Medical  Journal
If the people who originally designed the study collected the data  and 
analysed the data aren't involved in actually getting right through to the  
interpretation there are all sorts of slips and manipulations that can happen at  
that stage which I think have to be against the public interest. 
JOFRE: So  just how closely did the honourable Professor Keller scrutinise 
the data in his  own study? 
PROF KELLER: I've reviewed data analytic tables, I don't recall  how raw it 
was. The huge printouts that list items by item number.. you know,  item 
numbers, invariable numbers and don't even have words on 'em. I tend not to  look at 
those. I do better with words than I do with symbols. 
JOFRE: A  telling phrase. And it's soon clear the PR woman is making crucial 
decisions  about how to present the data. At one point a GSK executive 
protests: "She's  going too far in burying bad news." 
It seems incongruous that we state it as  safe yet report so many serious 
adverse events. [email dated: 19th July 1999]  
JOFRE: There were actually 11 such side-effects including self-harm,  
aggression and suicidal thoughts. GSK suggests to the PR woman that she make  clear 
Seroxat may have caused all of them. But how's this for spin? The final  
article says: 
"Of the 11 patients only headache (one patient) was considered  to be related 
to the treatment." 
JOFRE: The article never does explain how  many children became suicidal or 
explore whether the drug was to blame. Instead  it concludes that Seroxat is 
"generally well tolerated and effective." The next  step in GSK's marketing plan 
was to get the study published. Doctors rely on  medical journals to give 
them advice they can trust. The first journal GSK tried  rejected the article, so 
they tried another. 
Dr MINA DULCAN
Editor,  Journal of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
We rank,  and this is a worldwide ranking, we rank number one in child mental 
health and  number two in paediatrics. 
JOFRE: About as influential as GSK could hope  for, but would the journal's 
reviewers spot the flaws in the study? Normally  their deliberations are 
confidential but we've seen what they thought of study  329. 
"Overall results do not clearly indicate efficacy. Authors need to  clearly 
note this." [3rd November 2000] 
JOFRE: Another points out: 
"A  relatively high rate of serious adverse effects was not addressed in the  
discussion." 
JOFRE: And fundamentally poses the question: 
"Given the  high placebo response rate, are these drugs an acceptable first 
line therapy for  depressed teenagers?" 
GODLEE: I think it's fair to say that what happened  here is one journal 
spotted the problems and rejected the paper. Another journal  had peer reviewers 
who also spotted a number of the problems but the paper was  published 
nonetheless relatively unchanged, and I think the journal must take  some 
responsibility for that. 
JOFREE: Do you have no regrets about  publishing this study? 
DULCAN: Oh I don't have any regrets about publishing  at all. It generated 
all sorts of useful discussion which is the purpose of a  scholarly journal. 
JOFRE: Inside GSK, though, the discussion was all about  what a failure study 
329 had been. This is what another of its PR people wrote  when asked if the 
journal article would be publicised. 
"Originally we had  planned to do extensive media relations surrounding this 
study until we actually  viewed the results. Essentially the study did not 
really show it was effective  in treating adolescent depression which is not 
something we want to publicise."  [Email dated: 5th March 2001] 
JOFRE: The same month the journal article was  published, the third of the 
company's clinical trials in depressed children  reported back. Would this one 
back up the company's public claims for Seroxat?  Not at all. It actually 
showed the children on Seroxat did worse than the ones  on sugar pills. Yet doctors 
at this time asking GSK for advice on treating  children were told that study 
329 showed the drug..... "was superior to placebo  by several assessment 
methods." No mention of the serious side-effects or the  two failed studies. 
Meanwhile GSK was telling its American sales reps who  promote drugs direct to 
doctors that Seroxat: "demonstrates REMARKABLE efficacy  and safety in the 
treatment of adolescent depression." 
STEPHANIE GATCHELL:  They have been deceiving the world... the population, 
the doctors, everybody,  and I think they've... what they've done is just 
despicable. I'm very, very  angry. It's an anger I don't often know what to do with. 
KAREN BARTH  MENZIES
Baum Hedlund
They didn't tell the regulators or the physicians or  parents about these 
risks or the lack of efficacy, instead they went out and  promoted this specific 
study as remarkably effective and safe for kids.  
JOFRE: So what does that amount to in your view? 
BARTH MENZIES: That's a  lie. That's flawed. 
JOFRE: This was a drug that doctors were told could help  prevent suicide 
when in reality it was actually making some children suicidal, a  triumph of 
marketing over science. Nearly five years ago I started asking  questions about 
Seroxat's safety in children, after reports of worrying  side-effects in adults. 
So did GSK and its supporters come clean about what they  knew or continue to 
cover up the truth? Back in 2002 I interviewed another  academic paid by GSK 
to work on study 329. Doctor Neil Ryan is an eminent child  psychiatrist. He 
was speaking at an American medical conference sponsored  by..... yes, 
GlaxoSmithKline. Dr Ryan told an audience that included British  doctors Seroxat was 
effective for a child who had depression. He didn't mention  the small issue of 
suicide. So afterwards I asked him about it. 
Dr NEAL  RYAN
University of Pittsburgh
It looks like in fact that the  antidepressants overall lower the rate of 
suicide rather than raise it. It's  been a question that's really important 
because it's such an awful outcome you  can't treat people that are dead, you know, 
but it's looking like it's not the  case. 
JOFRE: I wondered even then how he could be so sure. Back in Britain I  
called him. 
13th September 2002
I'm trying to find some more information  about it from you because I know 
you were one of the main authors and I think  you had access to all the data 
so... 
RYAN: Yes, I've given you all I can  give you Shelley. Good luck with your 
story. 
JOFRE: You can't tell me  whether the children were self-harming or trying to 
kill themselves? 
RYAN:  [No response] 
JOFRE: Hello? Hung up again. Fast forward four years and the  boxes in Malibu 
reveal what was going on behind the scenes. This, supposedly  independent 
academic was asking the company that sponsored his research how to  respond to 
me. 
BARTH MENZIES: If you look here he emails all of your  correspondence to 
GlaxoSmithKline. 
JOFRE: [reading from file] "I'll call you  again later today and you can 
advise on how might be best to handle this."  Who's.... that's somebody from 
GlaxoSmithKline so he's forwarded all my emails  to them and asked for advice. 
BARTH MENZIES: Yeah, you see they are truly...  these academics are truly 
spokespersons for the drug company. 
JOFRE: Back in  2003 I eventually spoke to a senior GSK executive and despite 
what the company  was admitting internally, the message for the outside world 
was that study 329  was absolutely sound. 
The evidence here suggests that their children might  be at more of suicide 
if they go on Seroxat. 
October 2002 
Dr ALISTAIR  BENBOW
GlaxoSmithKline
No, the evidence is not there. There is no  statistical difference between 
the groups. The reality of the situation is that  in this trial Seroxat was 
generally well tolerated by this difficult to treat  population. 
JOFRE: That simply wasn't true. After the programme a staggering  67,000 
people contacted us with their own Seroxat stories. 
I did attempt  suicide a couple of times. 
I just put the point to my arms and just scrape  until it bled. 
I would cut myself with razors. 
I did just want to die.  
JOFRE: I kept pursuing this story but six months later Dr Benbow still  
wouldn't budge. 
BENBOW: These medicines are not linked with suicide. These  medicines are not 
linked with an increased rate of self-harm. 
JOFRE:  Professor David Healy is an academic who has long challenged the 
company line.  He's angry that doctors were deceived into prescribing a harmful 
drug to  children. 
DAVID HEALY: If you'd heard the experts talk, they all say the  drug was 
extremely safe and very effective. We were all hoodwinked, misled,  duped. They 
produce these clinical trials which appear to be evidence and they  aren't, 
they're adverts. 
JOFRE: Sharise Gatchell's doctor, like thousands of  others, prescribed 
Seroxat in good faith. 
STEPHANIE GATCHELL
Sharise was  prescribed Seroxat on the 7th May 2003. On the 11th the Panorama 
programme was  broadcast. We watched it together. We called her and said: 
"Come and look. Look,  Seroxat, you see, you shouldn't have been on it. Aren't we 
lucky that you're off  it." We didn't realise she was taking it secretly 
again. 
JOFRE: The  following month some dramatic news. 
10th June 2003  
[NEWS]
Government's drug safety advisers have warned that the  antidepressant drug 
Seroxat shouldn't be given to anyone under 18 years old.  
JOFRE: The reason: Seroxat trebles the risk of suicidal thoughts and  
behaviour in depressed children. The medicines regulator had worked this out  from 
the secret clinical trial data GSK had finally handed over - 2 years after  the 
last depression study had ended. But it didn't come in time for Sharise  
Gatchell. 
STEPHANIE: I couldn't believe it! I couldn't believe it, two weeks  after she 
died. Why not just three weeks earlier or four weeks earlier, we  wouldn't 
have had that problem. Everything came too late for Sharise. 
JOFRE:  GlaxoSmithKline didn't want to be interviewed but told us the company 
utterly  rejects any suggestion it has improperly withheld drug trial 
information and  points out that Seroxat has never been approved for under 18s. GSK 
rightly says  that no suicides were reported in the children's studies, and 
claims none of the  individual trials were considered by GSK or independent 
investigators to show a  clinically meaningful increase in the rate of suicidal 
thinking or attempted  suicide. 
A copy of the full statement is available on our website  bbc.co.uk/panorama 
But the boxes in Malibu reveal that the company did find  a clinically 
meaningful increase in 2004 when forced by the US medicines  regulator to go back 
through its own trial results. Miraculously they discovered  a further four 
children on Seroxat who had become suicidal during study 329.  
KAREN BARTH MENZIES
Baum Hedlund
They discovered that there was  actually a six fold increase in events 
relating to suicide. 
JOFRE: But how  could all of this be missed originally? I mean these people 
were academics, they  were supposed to be objective and they were supposed to 
be scrutinising the  data! 
BARTH MENZIES: It shows that they didn't. 
JOFRE: In an email  exchange I've seen, the supposedly independent 
investigators seem surprised by  this news. Dr Ryan tells professor Keller that: 
"Unfortunately the extra  suicidal cases were all on Seroxat, or Paxil as it's known 
in the States." Dr  Ryan was recently asked about this while giving video 
evidence. 
Q: Did you  go back and correct your paper? 
RYAN: The... the GSK was getting the data  out there so it wasn't... there 
was no erratum to the paper. This was a  subsequent analysis. 
Q: So no erratum to your paper has been done to your  knowledge. 
RYAN: To my knowledge not. 
JOFRE: Toronto last summer, 15,000  psychiatrists from Britain and around the 
world are here for the profession's  largest annual conference. The whole 
event is sponsored by the big drug  companies. Martin Keller, the key opinion 
leader, is here doing what he does  best, influencing medical opinion. We weren't 
allowed to film his speech so  wired with a secret camera I caught up with 
him afterwards to ask if he was  worried about the high number of suicide 
attempts on study 329. 
Secret  filming
KELLER: None of these attempts led to suicide and very few of them  led to 
hospitalisation. The thing is, you have to consider what are the  alternatives. 
Right. 
JOFRE: So some of the unpublished studies showed that  placebo actually 
seemed to have more of an effect. 
KELLER: Come on, you know  better than that. 
JOFRE: Hang on, rewind a second. Yeah, he really did just  stroke me under 
the chin. 
So you still stand by.. you're still.. you'd be  quite happy to still 
prescribe.. 
KELLER: Absolutely. I think..... [averting  gaze] yeah. 
Professor DAVID HEALY
University of Cardiff
We're in a  situation now where people who are ill generally have been deeply 
betrayed by  the whole process, deeply betrayed by the pharmaceutical 
companies and by all  the experts that have been willing to actually lend their names 
to the process.  
JOFRE: Do you think what happened with study 329 actually matters in a  
broader context? 
Dr FIONA GODLEE
Editor, British Medical Journal
I  think what it tells us is that we do have a problem. We know that it's not 
the  only case and we have to work very hard not only to uncover cases such 
as this  but to work out how to prevent things like this happening in the 
future.  
JOFRE: This scandal shows just how tightly the drug companies control  
medical research. In the US bereaved families have joined together to sue GSK  
claiming it acted fraudulently. 
[STEINBERG v. GSK] 
[V/O pictures of  victims] The case should come to court later this year and 
if it succeeds the  company could be forced to pay out millions of dollars to 
the families.  
BARTH MENZIES: This is Scott, 14 years old. This is a little boy who's 11  
years old. He started taking Seroxat and he ended up.. he hanged himself in the  
closet with the leash of his new pet puppy. 
JOFRE: Stephanie Gatchell and  her husband have moved away from the home that 
holds so many awful memories to  try to start a new life in Ireland, but they 
just can't forgive GSK for  concealing what it new about Seroxat. 
STEPHANIE: They just kept on denying  and denying and denying. A programme 
like Panorama virtually had to force them  to admit. When were they... were they 
ever going to come out with the truth on  their own? I don't think so. The 
decision makers in that company should... you  know, should be brought to 
justice. They have a lot to explain. 
JEREMY VINE:  Shelley Jofre reporting. Now following revelations on this by 
Panorama 3 years  ago the medicines regulator here did begin a criminal 
investigation but as yet  no action has been taken. A spokesman said the 
investigation is still high  priority and now has substantial extra resources. 
Jeremy
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