ears dog

[Patti Mount]

Hi Beverly and anyone else who is interested in this subject,

1. The dogs we have treated for Black Ear Discharge (BED) did not have ear mites or other bug-type infestations. Something to be noted is that the dogs treated whose cases I have been involved with did have multiple dog vaccinations (vax) given at one time plus these vax were administered on numerous occasions. Plus annual Rabies Vax is mandatory here & were also administered on top of the other Vax's. Also these dogs were fed bagged dog kibble and/or canned dog food.

2. So one becomes *suspicious* of several factors. Does the original vax or the continued over-vax cause the dogs immune system to become weakened and allow inherent chronic disease to surface? or Does the processed dog food cause this action? OR is it a combination of the 2 together that just pushes a dogs immune system down far enough to begin exhibiting these elements of chronic disease to surface?

3. Often these dogs are treated allopathically with steroids and antibiotics in a very vicious cycle. Often the dogs will go on to develop food allergies, air borne allergies, skin disorders, incontinence, acid reflux, auto immune syndromes and possibly aggression or other behavioral issues along with other weaknesses structurally (if Sx begin early enough) and organically (cancer, heart disease, etc. ad nauseum)

4. Usually we find that IF the dog owner has good information made available, the first step taken *holistically* is to deviate from kibble, The switch in diet becomes a Raw Food based one. PLEASE be aware that simply feeding raw MEAT is not considered a complete diet for the dog. At the very least Raw Meaty Bones are needed. However I do feel that other elements are necessary ESPECIALLY when one is trying to rebuild the Immune System. If further information is desired, you may write to me privately regarding the diet and I will do what I can to assist you but please also send me a specific listing of exactly what food items the dog is receiving and the method of preparation. I do Raw Food Mentor for both my local Vet & for Dr Ian Billinghurst in Australia. Oh & this is not a dog food list!

5. So generally by the time this is all set the dog will have many Sx both mental & physical to locate your all important Top 3 Rubrics for reportorizing... we have started cases with Thuja, Lyssin, Sulphur, Pulsatilla, Nux Vomica, Calcarea, Calc Carb, Silica and several others... and then slowly moved to other remedies as the case clears &/or changes... in general we have found that slow clearings with minor aggravations have taken a year or more to bring the dogs Ear Problems to a very healthy place BUT positive changes have been noticed very quickly... some of the Time Frame also depends on the age of the dog and length of time the Sx have been ongoing, aggravated & degree of allopathic suppression. Some dogs have been given LM doses while others have been given dry doses... it depends on what is seen in the case and the general health & age of the dog.

6. And (don't laugh now) sometimes it has taken the dog's Owner getting a homeopathic case taken and prescribed and the beginnings of personal healing before the dog could *fully* heal! Sometimes humans seem to *attract* companions with specific psora for a reason know only to the Universe...

7. The final element in this scenario is that because dogs can not talk (per say) it is up to us as Homeopaths to fully inquire to the dogs Owner for the case taking beyond your observations IF you even know this dog firsthand. Perhaps you will find that you still want to ask more questions as to the dogs personality and special behavioral *quirks* to locate your Rubrics for the Mental Side of this case.

8. Possibly Russell Swift has more to add?

9. Somehow I hope this lengthy reply has helped you.

Respectfully yours,

Patti Mount, President IANTD World Headquarters
Patti@iantd.com http://www.iantd.com
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[petsfriend]

Patti,

I agree that raw food feeding is very important and that treating dogs with
chronic ear problems regardless of the color of the discharge take time and
commitment. The ears are an extension of the skin and as such are a
superficial organ. Therefore, they will be late to clear in a chronic case.
This is not like an acute otitis in a child.

Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

[Beverly Shamon]

Hi Tanya

the owner has told me that he is whimpering, the discharge from the ears has
a terrible odour which can be smelt from quite a way away, normally he is
happy

if you or anyone else could make suggestions that would be good.

thanks

Beverly
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is. i am quite sure the owner will be able to provide good description of
his character and behavior.

waxy discharge from the ears. Patient is a dog with severe itching of the
skin, no rash, area is red, hot, scratches til bleeds. has had lots of
cortison eand lived on only dry food til recently.

[Beverly Shamon]

Aileen

the dogs symptoms are there every minute apparently

Beverly

[Robyn]

Hi Beverly
in the rep I found Ear, wax, black - elaps(1) PULS (3)
and for offensive, puls1

Maybe his whimpering, itching & scratches til bleeds and other aspects of
his personality may lead you to Puls!

Regards
Robyn

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[Allen Coniglio]

Beverly - I recently treated a dog who had a brownish, waxy discharge from
his ears which smelled awful as did his whole body. He lost most of the hair
on the bottom part of his body, including his legs and had a honey like,
oozing discharge on most of his skin. His owner said the veterinarian gave
her some sort of medicine for the condition - some sort of mange - but, she
didn't want to use it. He could be smelled from across the room, as his odor
was quite strong. He was itching constantly and intensely on his body and
his ears. I started with Psorinum (he was always cold) which had no
discernible effect. I next tried Graphites which seemed to help to a degree
but, the symptoms started to come back after a while. I then tried Thuja
which helped but, it would not clear the case. I then went to Medorrhinum
which was repeated 3 or 4 times at intervals of about a month. With the Med
most of the symptoms cleared up except for a few small patches and then his
owner began to notice a slight return of the odor. I went back to the Thuja
for one dose and the dog has now been symptom free for about 2 months. I
think he also had one dose of Sulphur in the beginning. It took about 8 or 9
months to clear him completely although he was showing improvement from the
Graphites onward.

Skin; ITCHING; scratch, must; until it bleeds (K1328, G1095) (23) : agar.,
alum., arg., Ars., bar-c., bov., carb-v., chlol., choc., coff., dol.,
kali-n., led., med., mez., nat-m., nit-ac., parth., phos., pitu-a., psor.,
puls., tama.
Ears; WAX; black (K320, G267) (2) : elaps, Puls.
Ears; DISCHARGES; general; offensive; cadaverous smelling (K287, G242) (1) :
ars.
Ears; WAX; odor; foul (1) : caust.
Ears; WAX; odor; offensive (7) : aur., bov., carb-v., caust., hep., lach.,
zinc.
Ears; DISCHARGES; general; offensive (K286, K303, G242, G254) (61) : ango.,
ars., ars-s-f., asaf., Aur., aur-ar., aur-s., bar-m., bor., bov., calc.,
calc-s., calc-sil., carb-v., carbn-s., caust., cheir., chin., Cist., con.,
crot-h., elaps, ery-a., ferr-ar., fl-ac., graph., hep., hydr., hyos.,
kali-ar., kali-bi., kali-c., kali-p., kali-s., kali-sil., kreos., lach.,
lap-c-b., Lyc., mang., meph., Merc., merc-c., naja, nit-ac., ol-j., Psor.,
puls., pyrog., sanic., sep., Sil., skook., sul-ac., sulph., syph., tell.,
thuj., tub., viol-o., zinc.
Ears; DISCHARGES; general; offensive; fishbrine, like (K287, G242) (4) :
graph., naja, sanic., Tell.
Ears; DISCHARGES; general; offensive; horse urine, like (1) : nit-ac.
Ears; DISCHARGES; general; offensive; putrid meat, like (K287, G242) (3) :
Kali-p., Psor., thuj.
Ears; DISCHARGES; general; offensive; rotten cheese, like (K287, G242) (2) :
bar-m., hep.
Ears; DISCHARGES; general; offensive; sour (K287, G242) (1) : sulph.
Ears; POLYPUS; discharging; offensive (5) : calc., calc-i., kali-s., merc.,
thuj.
Allen

[Dale Moss]

Hi, Beverly--

Having been through this with my own dog, a Lab, I can empathize. Oddly enough, in my dog's case the ear problems resulted from switching to a better diet of cooked grains and veggies (AM) and raw beef (PM). The latter apparently did not agree. Contrary to my expectations, the dog does better on a diet of kibble supplemented with vitamin C, zinc, flaxseed oil, and nutritional yeast, plus frequent raw bones.

In my doggy's case, Silica resolved his ear discharge and itching, but as Patti notes, many remedies are possible candidates.

Cinnabar

[Dale Moss]

Hi, Beverly --

Have you considered Mercurius?

Cinnabar