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Beverly Shamon
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ears dog

Post by Beverly Shamon »

Hi everyone,

would appreciate if anybody can find a remedy associated with blackish waxy discharge from the ears. Patient is a dog with severe itching of the skin, no rash, area is red, hot, scratches til bleeds. has had lots of cortison eand lived on only dry food til recently.

I can only find brownish discharge from ears

thanks for your kind help
Beverly
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andyh
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Re: ears dog

Post by andyh »

Beverly Shamon wrote:
Beverly, HI,
from rfwrks search of ear (sentence) black
Aloe
*Deafness in consequence of peevishness, becoming heated and chilled in damp rooms, combined with uncommon torpor of the system, slimy expectoration, rattling in the chest, pulsating from the chest toward the ear, determination of blood to the head, vertigo, violent pulsating in the ear which is excessively painful, and gradually developed suppuration. After complete deafness of the left ear it attacked the right also, wherewith he could only hear when one spoke loudly in his ear. He lost his sense of smell. With the ear-scoop he brought out at times,

especially from the left ear, thick, yellow and black masses

without benefit to the hearing or amelioration of pain; at the same time came swellings on the head, which went away again, first on one side then on the other, and on motion a sense of cracking in the occiput going into the ear; eyes dull; yellowish circles; chest painful, not enduring the slightest pressure; expectoration day and night. The juice of the fresh Aloe leaf was put into the ear on cotton,, and since it gave relief, he took every morning and evening two tablespoonfuls of a decoction of the fresh Aloe juice (two and a half pounds with one and a half pounds of wine
and half a pound of sugar). On the fourth night he was obliged to cough hard, and in the morning found traces of blood, and on the left side coagulated blood and pus; he continued its use ten months, and during that time had painful sensations here and there in different spots on the surface, sometimes accompanied by swelling, lasting one or two days; first on the right side of the head then on the left; viscid matter flowed from the cracks in the skin. He was completely cured, and heard as well as ever. Hufeland's Journal, 54, 2, 66. 1822, from Strumf and Frank's Magazine,
2, 589.
(To be continued.)
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Elaps
Homeopathy 1941
SNAKE VENOMS by DR. FARRINGTON
Elaps corallinus (Brazillian coral snake)
A great peculiarity: black haemorrhages and discharges, even to black ear - wax.
One of our doctors who had mastered the inwardness of Elaps found it almost specific in chronic naso - pharyngeal catarrh with greenish crusts and offensive odour.
Brain feels shaken.
Food, as if it turns like a corkscrew when swallowed. Drinks feel like ice in stomach.
Intestines as if twisted with a cord, and strung together in a knot.
As if pleurae were pulled off, and lungs violently drawn apart.
Sensation of a heavy load or iron bar on parts.
Affects especially skin and glands of axilla.
(Clarke gives a cured case of chronic eruption in axilla, with suppuration of axillary glands.)
Worse warmth of bed, but very sensitive to cold - draughts - wind.
Horror of rain.

LACH
Elaps and Crotalus also have an action on the ears. Elaps, like Lachesis, produces a catarrh with black cerumen, buzzing in the ears, and otorrhoea. In Elaps, the discharge is yellowish-green, liquid and bloody. Only Lachesis seems to have the Eustachian stoppage, better from shaking the finger in the external meatus. Crotalus causes a stuffed feeling in the ears, worse on the right side, associated with a feeling as if hot ear-wax was trickling out.

Puls
Otalgia, darting, tearing pains, (especially in children.) Inflammation of ear; thick pus from left ear hard, black wax in ears; deafness (from cold, shaving hair cut, from suppressed measles.)

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Combined rubric then is
EARS; WAX; black (K320, G267): aloe, elaps(1), lach ,Puls(3).

SKIN; ITCHING; scratch, must; until it bleeds (K1328, G1095): agar., alum., arg., Ars., bar-c., bov., carb-v., chlol., choc., coff., dol., kali-n., led., med., mez., nat-m., nit-ac., parth., phos., pitu-a., psor., puls., tama.

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Crossing the two yields Pulsatilla
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also have
EARS; DISCHARGES; general; thick (K287, G242): aur-ar., bac., Calc., Calc-s., calc-sil., carb-v., ery-a., hep., Hydr., Kali-bi., kali-chl., kali-i., kali-m., kali-sil., lap-c-b., lyc., merc., nat-m., psor., Puls., sep., Sil., tarent.

-Hope this helpful

Andy H.


Tanya Marquette
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Re: ears dog

Post by Tanya Marquette »

Beverly,

dont forget to include some of the characteristics of the pt, dog that he is. i am quite sure the owner will be able to provide good description of his character and behavior.

tanya


Aileen W. Donovan
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Re: ears dog

Post by Aileen W. Donovan »

Hi Beverly, are this dog's symptoms recurring and only at a certain time
of year? Aileen W. Donovan.

Beverly Shamon wrote:

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petsfriend
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Re: ears dog

Post by petsfriend »

Beverly,

Elaps is the classic black ear discharge remedy, however, I can't say I have
had success prescribing for ear problems on the basis of the discharge, etc.
Look at the temperament, when the problem began, etc.

I hope you are trying raw foods. That is often the critical factor.

be well

Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."


Patti Mount
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Re: ears dog

Post by Patti Mount »

Hi Beverly,

I have been assisting my Homeopathic Veterinarian for the past 1 1/2 years... I am enrolled in Homeopathy School also but would definitely consider myself in the early learning stages... I have thus been exposed to numerous dogs with this black-gunk-&-itchy ears, etc. vicious cycle... we have not been treating the dogs with a reporitization specifically geared to this symptom for successful clearing of this symptom... rather we have looked into the Full Case of the Dog and taken care to pay attention to the repertories and researching to get to the core of the dogs Case... each time the Ear Stuff has cleared with patience and choosing remedies that fit the whole case which might include the "scratching till bleeding" better than the actual discharge rubric PLUS others...

You also mention "dry dog food until recently" - what changes have been made to the dogs diet? was this in an effort to clear the Ear Syndrome?

Respectfully yours,

Patti Mount, President IANTD World Headquarters
Patti@iantd.com http://www.iantd.com
Shogun's Webpage http://www.iantd.com/Shogun/Puppy.html
Ariel's Webpage & Pedigree http://www.iantd.com/Ariel/Ariel.htm

Hi everyone,

would appreciate if anybody can find a remedy associated with blackish waxy discharge from the ears. Patient is a dog with severe itching of the skin, no rash, area is red, hot, scratches til bleeds. has had lots of cortison eand lived on only dry food til recently.

I can only find brownish discharge from ears

Beverly
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jdurfeeathome
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Re: ears dog

Post by jdurfeeathome »

In a message dated 8/26/2002 12:10:59 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
ehc@austarnet.com.au writes:
Isn't a blackish discharge possibly earmites? Thats how it looked in my cat.
Have you had it looked at under a microscope?

Barbara
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: ears dog

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Patti,

I'm curious whether these black discharges were caused by ear mites, which
cleared on the constitutional, or whether the discharge was from something
else -- do you know? (I'm so interested to get a better sense of which
"things" can be treated thru simply strengthening the organism; would love
to know if mites are one, as I might guess.)

Shannon
on 8/26/02 8:41 AM, Patti Mount at Patti@iantd.com wrote:


Beverly Shamon
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Re: ears dog

Post by Beverly Shamon »

Hi Patti,

the dog is now on raw meat in an attempt to rectify its overall health
problems as the ears are obviously tied in with the skin problem
Do you have any suggestions as to possible remedies to look at the for whole
case including the black ear discharge/

thanks

Beverly

Stuff has
which
discharge
made


Patti Mount
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Re: ears dog

Post by Patti Mount »

Hi Beverly and anyone else who is interested in this subject,

1. The dogs we have treated for Black Ear Discharge (BED) did not have ear mites or other bug-type infestations. Something to be noted is that the dogs treated whose cases I have been involved with did have multiple dog vaccinations (vax) given at one time plus these vax were administered on numerous occasions. Plus annual Rabies Vax is mandatory here & were also administered on top of the other Vax's. Also these dogs were fed bagged dog kibble and/or canned dog food.

2. So one becomes *suspicious* of several factors. Does the original vax or the continued over-vax cause the dogs immune system to become weakened and allow inherent chronic disease to surface? or Does the processed dog food cause this action? OR is it a combination of the 2 together that just pushes a dogs immune system down far enough to begin exhibiting these elements of chronic disease to surface?

3. Often these dogs are treated allopathically with steroids and antibiotics in a very vicious cycle. Often the dogs will go on to develop food allergies, air borne allergies, skin disorders, incontinence, acid reflux, auto immune syndromes and possibly aggression or other behavioral issues along with other weaknesses structurally (if Sx begin early enough) and organically (cancer, heart disease, etc. ad nauseum)

4. Usually we find that IF the dog owner has good information made available, the first step taken *holistically* is to deviate from kibble, The switch in diet becomes a Raw Food based one. PLEASE be aware that simply feeding raw MEAT is not considered a complete diet for the dog. At the very least Raw Meaty Bones are needed. However I do feel that other elements are necessary ESPECIALLY when one is trying to rebuild the Immune System. If further information is desired, you may write to me privately regarding the diet and I will do what I can to assist you but please also send me a specific listing of exactly what food items the dog is receiving and the method of preparation. I do Raw Food Mentor for both my local Vet & for Dr Ian Billinghurst in Australia. Oh & this is not a dog food list!

5. So generally by the time this is all set the dog will have many Sx both mental & physical to locate your all important Top 3 Rubrics for reportorizing... we have started cases with Thuja, Lyssin, Sulphur, Pulsatilla, Nux Vomica, Calcarea, Calc Carb, Silica and several others... and then slowly moved to other remedies as the case clears &/or changes... in general we have found that slow clearings with minor aggravations have taken a year or more to bring the dogs Ear Problems to a very healthy place BUT positive changes have been noticed very quickly... some of the Time Frame also depends on the age of the dog and length of time the Sx have been ongoing, aggravated & degree of allopathic suppression. Some dogs have been given LM doses while others have been given dry doses... it depends on what is seen in the case and the general health & age of the dog.

6. And (don't laugh now) sometimes it has taken the dog's Owner getting a homeopathic case taken and prescribed and the beginnings of personal healing before the dog could *fully* heal! Sometimes humans seem to *attract* companions with specific psora for a reason know only to the Universe...

7. The final element in this scenario is that because dogs can not talk (per say) it is up to us as Homeopaths to fully inquire to the dogs Owner for the case taking beyond your observations IF you even know this dog firsthand. Perhaps you will find that you still want to ask more questions as to the dogs personality and special behavioral *quirks* to locate your Rubrics for the Mental Side of this case.

8. Possibly Russell Swift has more to add?

9. Somehow I hope this lengthy reply has helped you.

Respectfully yours,

Patti Mount, President IANTD World Headquarters
Patti@iantd.com http://www.iantd.com
Shogun's Webpage http://www.iantd.com/Shogun/Puppy.html
Ariel's Webpage & Pedigree http://www.iantd.com/Ariel/Ariel.htm


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