kidney stones New question...

[Maria Bohle]

Yes, I can attest to that. Spent 3 or 4 days in the hospital, took about 12 hours to pass the stone, they gave me morphine and after the stone passed my blood pressure was 60/40 so got plunked into a bed and was told not to even try to get up.

Second stone, years later while an advanced student of homeopathy, Had a homeopath at the time who had a rather rigid rule, he absolutely demanded that his patients not take any homeopathic remedies on their own.
The pain started coming up and was pretty bad, when the pain got to an eight out of a possible ten and I felt the nausea start, that was it, rule or no rule I took a 30c of berberis (dry dose) and put the 200C remedy bottle in my pocket in case I needed it, Oh, yes I did, the wave of pain started getting worse, I popped a 200c pellet, the pain wave went down as fast as it came on and that was it!! Thank G-d, I have not had a problem since (about 20 years now).
The pain is absolutely horrible. Was once told the pain was from spasms of the ureters and that berberis (in my case) relaxed them so the stone could pass easily.
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[Rochelle Marsden]

Interesting as my husband has had no more stones since I persuaded him to take Berberis last time he had an attack which was about 2 years ago, Before that it was regular in January after the Xmas binge I reckon!!!
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 03 October 2014 13:15
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: kidney stones Re: [Minutus] New question...
Yes, I can attest to that. Spent 3 or 4 days in the hospital, took about 12 hours to pass the stone, they gave me morphine and after the stone passed my blood pressure was 60/40 so got plunked into a bed and was told not to even try to get up.
Second stone, years later while an advanced student of homeopathy, Had a homeopath at the time who had a rather rigid rule, he absolutely demanded that his patients not take any homeopathic remedies on their own.

The pain started coming up and was pretty bad, when the pain got to an eight out of a possible ten and I felt the nausea start, that was it, rule or no rule I took a 30c of berberis (dry dose) and put the 200C remedy bottle in my pocket in case I needed it, Oh, yes I did, the wave of pain started getting worse, I popped a 200c pellet, the pain wave went down as fast as it came on and that was it!! Thank G-d, I have not had a problem since (about 20 years now).
The pain is absolutely horrible. Was once told the pain was from spasms of the ureters and that berberis (in my case) relaxed them so the stone could pass easily.
I understand totally as have witnessed it in others. But just wanting to clarify that this isn't a cure so that future ones don't occur, it is certainly help with the process of passing the stones.
Sheri

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[Maria Bohle]

Have a cured case of a patient with some terrible urinary track problems, frequent urination (every 20 minutes) with problems voiding, was full of stones in the collecting ducts. He passed about 3 or 4 stones a week, didn't bother going to the doctor anymore when they passed. He came in awhile back with two small pill bottles containing tissue paper and a big pile of stones, they looked almost like little bb pellets, and yes I had him on berberis as needed for that kidney stone pain - he just started passing those stones almost painlessly, his doctor was absolutely amazed how well he did. He used to spend 2 hours out of his workday in the bathroom, when I saw him last it was down to less than a half hour and the time was still reducing. Economic problems keep him out of my office until he really needs me, so I have not seen him for a few months now, told him he didn't have to come back as long as he was doing well.

I love Berberis, can't help but love a remedy that has offered so much pain relief.

Maria
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Was he taking a daily dose or only as needed when pain began. Was he on 30c of berberis (dry dose) or 200c pellet as reported earlier in this conversation?
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Subject: Re: kidney stones Re: [Minutus] New question...
To: "minutus@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Friday, October 3, 2014, 11:26 AM
Have a cured case of a patient
with some terrible urinary track problems, frequent
urination (every 20 minutes) with problems voiding, was
full of stones in the collecting ducts. He passed about 3
or 4 stones a week, didn't bother going to the doctor
anymore when they passed. He came in awhile back with two
small pill bottles containing tissue paper and a big pile of
stones, they looked almost like little bb pellets, and
yes I had him on berberis as needed for that kidney stone
pain - he just started passing those stones almost
painlessly, his doctor was absolutely amazed how well he
did. He used to spend 2 hours out of his workday in the
bathroom, when I saw him last it was down to less than a
half hour and the time was still reducing. Economic
problems keep him out of my office until he really needs me,
so I have not seen him for a few months now, told him he
didn't have to come back as long as he was doing
well.
I love Berberis,
can't help but love a remedy that has offered so much
pain relief.
Maria
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at
10:02 AM, 'Rochelle Marsden' rochellemarsden@talktalk.net
[minutus]
wrote:
Interesting as my
husband has had no more stones since I persuaded him to take
Berberis last time he had an attack which was about 2 years
ago, Before that it was regular in January after the Xmas
binge I reckon!!! Rochelle From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 03 October 2014 13:15
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: kidney stones Re: [Minutus]
New question...
Yes, I can attest to
that. Spent 3 or 4 days in the hospital, took about 12
hours to pass the stone, they gave me morphine and after
the stone passed my blood pressure was 60/40 so got plunked
into a bed and was told not to even try to get
up. Second stone, years later
while an advanced student of homeopathy, Had a homeopath
at the time who had a rather rigid rule, he absolutely
demanded that his patients not take any homeopathic remedies
on their own. The pain started coming up
and was pretty bad, when the pain got to an eight out of a
possible ten and I felt the nausea start, that was it, rule
or no rule I took a 30c of berberis (dry dose) and put the
200C remedy bottle in my pocket in case I needed it, Oh,
yes I did, the wave of pain started getting worse, I
popped a 200c pellet, the pain wave went down as fast as
it came on and that was it!! Thank G-d, I have not had a
problem since (about 20 years
now). The pain is absolutely
horrible. Was once told the pain was from spasms of the
ureters and that berberis (in my case) relaxed them so the
stone could pass
easily. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:02
PM, Sheri Nakken homeopathycuresyou@gmail.com
[minutus]
wrote:
I understand totally as have
witnessed it in others. But just wanting to clarify that
this isn't a cure so that future ones don't occur,
it is certainly help with the process of passing the
stones.
Sheri
At 01:50 PM 10/2/2014, you
wrote:
If you ever had a kidney stone
coming through, you would know the excruciating pain it
comes with.....you do whatever it takes to stop it, deal
with the deeper issues later.Dr. J. Rozencwajg,
NMD. "The greatest enemy of any
science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.co.nzOn
3/10/2014 4:47 a.m., Sheri Nakken homeopathycuresyou@gmail.com
[minutus] wrote:
interesting but that
isn't a 'cure' for kidney stones - that just
helps the current situation. The cure would be what helped
the vital force to not produce them to begin with.
Sheri
At 08:31
PM 10/1/2014, you wrote:
Dr. J.R - you are absolutely
correct it is an old european 'cure' for kidney
stones and to alkalize the body. My grand mother's
recipe
drink the water that you used to
boil the potatoes in but only right after it has cooled do
not save it for hours or days.
GiselaTo: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:33:19 +1300
Subject: Re: kidney stones Re: [Minutus] New
question...
The potato water does not
dissolve the kidney stones; it contains the alkaloid
solanine, similar but weaker to atropine, that creates
relaxation of the ureters, allowing the stone to progress
fast to the bladder and relieves the pain by stopping the
spasms.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg,
NMD. "The greatest enemy of any
science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.co.nzOn
1/10/2014 5:05 a.m., Shannon Nelson shannonnelson@tds.net
[minutus] wrote:
Unfortunately I
can't find it now, but -- years back someone had posted
a series of experiences using "potato (peel)
water" to dissolve kidney stones, and had all sorts of
instances where it took a person from writhing in pain, to
cured. As I remember, it was basically to make broth of
potatoes (and their peels; maybe mostly their peels? I
can't remember!), and have them drink just as much of it
as they can, and that relief can come within a rather short
time (hour or so? Can remember that for sure either!).
It seems like a
can't-lose thing to try, if something surer and better
understood not available?(Some day
*maybe* I will learn this whole "backing up"
thing, so I don't lose so much every time I change
computers!)Shannon
On
Sep 29, 2014, at 11:20 PM, "Vicki Satta victoria2dc@comcast.net
[minutus]"

[APEX PRECITECH]

About 500 grams of fresh banana stem will fetch a tumbler of juice. Add good fresh and diluted butter milk and salt (if you need).

Every day the cubically cut pieces themselves can be added to your food. Not when you are taking baked items. Only when you take boiled, raw or fried food.

Hope this helps

[Shannon Nelson]

Interesting -- why not baked?

[APEX PRECITECH]

buttermilk creates a lot of unpleasantness with baked foods. Similarly we do not take milk or with fish. Some seasoned stomachs may take it tho.