Dwells on past relationship

[Tanya Marquette]

Irene--Explain more about a remedy for going forward. How do you
assess that--I know hard to say without a specific case, but do
your best.
t

[Leilanae]

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Hi Irene,

In the States, I don't think the original Bach Flower products are "essences" anymore as the labeling indicates 5X HPUS. Their website mentions a dilution and shaking process??? I checked an older bottle which was labeled "essence", so it appears something has changed.

Leilanae
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for a future positive aspect, (along with essence/s for the the negative issue/s to be overcome), and find that gives sure results. It's a basic principle - the principle of

[Irene de Villiers]

I've not seen any marked 5X, but then I mostly imported mine. I'll be on the lookout.
Weird - anyone know the history of that?

........Irene

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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

HI,
It's a principle I developed when I was consulting on Bach remedies full time from a vet clinic in the late 1990s.
I had about 8 cases a day for a few years, and there was great success with that principle.
Perhaps an example will help explain it....an animal one ....but it works equally for people - and the owners often approached me for some help in that regard on seeing how well it worked for their pets.

CASE 1:
A man arrived at the clinic in tears, with his closest friend - his rather odd looking dog - with him, saying he had to put the dog down as it insisted on biting his new wife on the bum when her back was turned. Bach remedy was used instead:
Holly: For jealousy, dangerous behavior, tendency to bite.
Walnut: For adjustment to new environment (with wife in it), feeling vulnerable due to the change.
Wild oat: For inducing a positive purpose in life.
Chicory: The personality remedy to hold the mix together and make it synergistic.

Notes:
Chicory personality tends to feel they own the master and the house; disallow others in their territory; become over-posessive.
Wild oat was chosen for the positive balancing remedy, as the dog had too much time alone or with the wife, with no real structured activity. Owner was given training and activity suggestions to put into a routine.
After two weeks at 4 doses a day I called for a follow-up. Wife answered, so I asked how the problem was with the dog. Her answer "What problem?"

The principle is that if I used only the problem behavior remedies, even with a personality remedy (which I also always include in a Bach mix), it covers only the "don't do this" aspect, without the "do this instead" part. I feel it is not enough to remove the negative - it needs to be replaced by something positive.

Finding the right positive remedy is as individual and case-specific as the negative aspects to be remedied.
The main thing is to remember to add that aspect to the overall approach.

In the situation Susan posted, I would consider Ignatia for grief and Staphisagria to have confidence to move forward. Granted this is using the principle I developed with Bach remedies and applying it to homeopathic remedies, but I do not see why not. Both are energy remedies and desired for situation-specific (short term) emotional issues here, and the principle of removing negative AND adding positive still holds and will be more effective assistance to the individual than merely helping one past the negative. I certainly proved that to be most effective with my Bach consulting - I'm suggesting it here with homeopathy as well.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[healthinfo6]

This is all great info, certainly alot to learn here. I guess we think of Ignatia the way we think of Arnica, the first remedy of choice, but not always the best but may be as a start.
Some additional details... While severely hurt by him, she is basically over the ex-husband but there is a persistent connection with him, a few children, monthly financial payment, living in a house he owns but she pays some of the bills. While the ex-husband remarried and has a son from this, he is getting divorced for the third time. The son, a step brother to her daughters, has occasional contact with her, even stays at her house since her daughters are close to their step brother. She has even stayed alone with her ex, while desiring sex with him, she says he was the best she ever had, he had no interest as he keeps going for new younger woman. 60's into 20's So there is a forced friendship due to parenting issues along with financial ones and occasional legal ones. This past Thanksgiving, she spent with her children and their father, her ex, in his house, like they were still a family. The first marriage of one child will happen this summer, so there will be more joint contact, planning, etc.. So there sure to be dwelling, brooding, etc.
The 7 year mistress part, I guess was an easy comfortable way to imagine being in a relationship which didn't exist. She thought of him as a boyfriend but it was just sex and there was and still are some real feelings between them, but this philanderer has a family and teenage children, has cheated on his wife and got caught before, and only had occasional lunches drinks and sex with her. He didn't sleep over, though she kept a toothbrush for him. While she ended it with him last year and both shed tears, then she vacillates, texts him, sees him for drinks rarely but now he's not interested in her sexually. She's frustrated because she doesn't want solely a friendship with him but back to sexual, and one minute says I'm over him, then when no one else emerges in her life and feels lonely, texts him, talks, then says, "why did I do it???"
She wants to be married again, rarely has casual sex though on occasion has on a date situation, but then the other never calls back.
She also has high standards, ex is multi $M, so wants men with money as she lived that lifestyle and still in it but not to the degree as when married. She's being unrealistic, though she'll never be destitute, she's already experienced some financial struggles, needs to downsize but spends lots of money, partly to replace being in a relationship.
Also, she is a narcissist possibly a co-dependent inverted one. She constantly needs to talk but only interested in telling the daily events in her life, constantly wants company. She can be lots of fun, laughing, joking and buying things for others, but many times it's what she wants you to have, not as interested in what you may want. Never comes across as quiet, depressed, introverted or moody and doesn't hold her thoughts or feelings back.
On the miasm side, I see Medhorrhinum, strong sexual desire, extroverted and wild thinking on occasion. Sometimes she sounds like a rabid animal but she loves drinking water.
One rubric I see is hoarseness in voice, usually when in these excited thought states. Allopathy has found nothing for her.
As I said before, I may only have one or two chances to help homeopathically as I expect severe aggravations and she would not continue. She is not an LM type for daily use, so I'm thinking whichever remedy, give 200C. I don't think she will keep taking low potency doses.
Thanks for any more ideas which are very interesting.
Susan

[Jean Doherty]

Some features of Kali Carb not able to let go, Jean

[Shannon Nelson]

Just for my curiosity, I'm wondering why Nat-m isn't being mentioned at all for this. To me is would be the first thought, and then I would look to food, sleep, dreams, generals to see if there is confirmation or not. Also of course also looking to see whether there are Ignatia indications such as signing and contradictory sxs.

To me Nat-m comes first to mind because:
- it's a long-term state, whereas Ignatia is more commonly (tho not necessarily) acute; and
- I thought that an ongoing longing for something you can't or shouldn't have was one of the Nat-m keynotes.

Help -- what am I missing?

Shannon

[Lynn Cremona]

Twas

From "A Modern Guide and Index to The Mental Rubrics of Kent's Repertory" by David Sault
"The main connection to "Dwells on past disagreeable events" is Brooding, but there would be a difference between them in
that Ignatia is the main remedy in Brooding whereas Nat mur is the main remedy in Dwells.
This would indicate that Brooding is concerned with present or recent grievances whereas Dwells
refers to grievances a long time past."

Best,
Lynn
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[Tanya Marquette]

i'm with you Shannon on this.
t

[Christine Wyndham-Thomas]

Yep. Individualization, not generalization.
Regards
Christine
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