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HomeoDidact
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What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by HomeoDidact »

Hi,
A weak patient (45y) is a *very* clear picture of ARS.
For 2 weeks he takes, as his constitutional rx: ARS 1/LM - 1 dose per day.
There is no real help from the rx yet. No change.
My question:
What can be done when the LM potency does not help at all (or enough) after 2 or 3 or 4 weeks of use?
TIA
Rafy


Shannon Nelson
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

I would say either try a higher LM, or try 6c in water doses.
I have read that some patients respond better to even or odd LM potencies, so e.g. LM2 may work better for her? Or higher?

Shannon


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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Another thought--there are *some* (perhaps only few) patients who respond better to dry dose. If tweaking potencies in water dose doesn't do it, maybe try dry 6c?

Shannon


Joy Lucas
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Joy Lucas »

Are they actually taking it? Are they antidoting in some way? Try another potency? Are the pillules of good quality? Is the follow up information reliable? i.e. there really is no change - reaction to LM's can be subtle. Always be ready to re-take the case as 'very clear' isn't always very true.

Joy

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

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Use an F series (Fibonacci Potencies).
 
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Homoeopathic Doctor
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Homoeopathic Doctor »

I suppose a short course of carbo veg for two or three weeks one dose a day and then Ars would give positive results. The patient needs support to overcome the weakness first and then the indicated remedy would act better. I do not know any scintific basis but my experience in some cases has led me to this conclusion. Look towards more enlightened to discuss...wink!!!

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Venkat
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Venkat »

Rafy

Some points in your message are striking
1. The patient is weak
2. The grand constitutional did not work

You should be fortunate that the constitutional did not do some hurricane like return of symptoms which obviously the weak one cannot take.

I think something immediate in the patient is demanding a 'small' or 'lesional' remedy. Then maybe, when the patient is a little invigorated you can think of the next step.

My focus is on the choice of the remedy rather than the posology.

Venkat
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Joy Lucas
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Joy Lucas »

Every case is individual of course but I do not understand the homeopathy when saying 'don't give the simillimum to a weak person, give another rx instead' - if dose and potency are correct to the individual then the simillimum will be the best choice in my experience, otherwise what exactly are you doing when choosing to give another rx instead of the simillimum? Could confuse or weaken even more.

Joy

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Venkat
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Venkat »

Joy

I think the list has seen much on this.

The cough Rx is Tuberculosis for example. (and we know what a Phos or Sil can do in these situations even if it is the similimum).

Do you think addressing the flare ups/ subacute situations is not the correct way ?

If the weak Pt is not responding ( if the possibility of posology
being eliminated), then will you look for another 'constitutional' or the tried way of location+ sensation+ modality+ time+ concomittant ?

Venkat
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Joy Lucas
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Re: What can one do when the LM potency does not help enough?

Post by Joy Lucas »

Phos and Sil and many other rx have the bad reputation for causing aggravations nearly always because the potency, posology or dosing was not correct, or possibly case taking not adequate to determine the sensitivity of the client.

The simillimum is what is required at any given time and there are no half measures, there is no such thing as a near simillimum that will cure. If there are flare-ups or acutes that need attending to then the required simillimum at that time will cure. More than one rx might be needed, depends on the case.

When the clearly indicated rx is not creating any reaction then follow ups have to be very diligent as one needs to know all the possibilities of why this is happening before you rush to another rx - but we have to be humble and when we have determined that all the possibilities of a rx not working have been considered then it is time to re-take the case with another rx to prescribe and accept the fact that the clearly indicated rx was not in fact the simillimum.

Joy

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