Flu preventative

[Dr. DHMS]

So the homeopaths should accept un-homeopathic ways in prevailing conditions? Okay if there's no way

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Nutritional deficiencies can be dealt by taking appropriate food not with drugs which can alter the status of body metabolism. Vit D induces un-necessary constipational conditions in certain constitutions which may lead to other complications.

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
In my opinion vit D in matterial doses may render other problems also, so Influenzinum or Eupatorium perf in 200 C fortnightly during an epidemic and monthly when there is no outbreak is rather a best option.

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rochelle Marsden
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:42 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com ; hope
Subject: [Minutus] Flu preventative

Have just been asked by a patient about flu prevention homeopathically as she doesn't want the flu jab. She is in her late 60's is very fit and the GP is pushing her. Needless to say her constitutional Rx appears to be Arsenicum which she has had fairly recently. I suppose Influenzum 200 monthly could be a possibility.

Personally I don't tend to do this but prefer to treat if it happens so I wondered what others do.

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Joy Lucas]

I also would be asking the questions about why anyone would want to get on the slippery slope of being a supplement junkie - what is the fear behind this, in the western world there is enough outlets to obtain quality food and if the problem lies elsewhere, e.g. assimilation errors, then something needs to be cured = homeopathy - vitamin therapy requires a fine balance and can do a lot of damage if not managed properly. I ask my clients what happens if one doesn't take all these supplements as well as dealing with the after effects of taking so many - can mask many true and important sx.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk
So the homeopaths should accept un-homeopathic ways in prevailing conditions? Okay if there's no way

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net > wrote:

[Tanya Marquette]

Look, I think homeopathy is the next best thing to magic, but it does not replace nutrition. Ongoing poor
nutrition is an obstacle to cure and is acknowledged by Hahnemann. Good nutrition is a necessary
concommittant to homeopathy and given the fact that people cannot get adequate nutrition from the
food available, supplements have become part of the solution. It is not a failureof homeopathy to use
nutritional supplements, just a recognition of biological reality.
tanya
So the homeopaths should accept un-homeopathic ways in prevailing conditions? Okay if there's no way

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Nutritional deficiencies can be dealt by taking appropriate food not with drugs which can alter the status of body metabolism. Vit D induces un-necessary constipational conditions in certain constitutions which may lead to other complications.

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
In my opinion vit D in matterial doses may render other problems also, so Influenzinum or Eupatorium perf in 200 C fortnightly during an epidemic and monthly when there is no outbreak is rather a best option.

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Donna

D C Rona, PhD, ND, DHM

From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rochelle Marsden
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:42 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com ; hope
Subject: [Minutus] Flu preventative

Have just been asked by a patient about flu prevention homeopathically as she doesn't want the flu jab. She is in her late 60's is very fit and the GP is pushing her. Needless to say her constitutional Rx appears to be Arsenicum which she has had fairly recently. I suppose Influenzum 200 monthly could be a possibility.

Personally I don't tend to do this but prefer to treat if it happens so I wondered what others do.

Rochelle

Registered Homeopath with The Society of Homeopaths
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Tanya Marquette]

We have very different realities on this topic. You seem to trust in the food quality and I can't. Study after study keeps
showing the lack of nutrition in modern foods. Soils that once had iron in them to make foods rich in that substance, no
longer do since the soils are depleted. This is just one example. People are very deficient in vit D because foods
don't provide this element and people spend more and more time indoors with work obligations and fear of sunburn---
which is aggravated by Vit D deficiency. Cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's are greatly affected by Vit D deficiency.
The list of diseases related to nutritional deficiencies grows daily. Even nice middle-class people who think they eat
well, cannot get sufficient nutrients from food alone. It is not about becoming a supplement junkie; it is recognizing
that homeopathy does not replace nutrition.
tanya
So the homeopaths should accept un-homeopathic ways in prevailing conditions? Okay if there's no way

Dr.

--- On Thu, 9/23/10, tamarque@earthlink.net > wrote:

[Joy Lucas]

My take on that is that it is an alarmist message and disregards individuality, miasmatic influence and all other factors of what homeopathy can achieve. An extreme dependency on any substance is something to be wary of. And there is nothing to say that homeopathy cannot replace nutritional deficiencies. But your choice to go in that direction of course.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk

[Tanya Marquette]

Nothing alarmist in what I say. The research has been coming in for several decades on disease states and nutritional deficiency.
Homeopathy may heal many diseases and make corrections where needed, but you don't sit down to a meal of homeopathy for
daily health. Let's not do what allopaths do--think that our protocol is the essence of life itself.
tanya

[Joy Lucas]

Well I think it is ironic that you support a multi billion dollar crude supplement industry whose products may or may not be 'natural' (and many certainly are NOT - and as you are advocating their use you have to remember that some will opt for a cheaper and nastier product and that is even more dangerous), over and above quality food that you claim to be difficult to have access to in the western world. Strange.

Even a walk in weak sunlight will give a dose of Vit D, eating any food that has been exposed to 'natural' sunlight will suffice and I still believe and know that if a disease is forthcoming purely and only from a nutritional deficiency then homeopathy can cure.

But I will leave it at that as this was a discussion about prophylactics for so called 'flu' from a homeopathic standpoint and I am sure there are many other potent forums for the discussion of food politics.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk

[Tanya Marquette]

We have no control over what others do, only what we recommend. There are many people who buy
those little blue tubes and self-medicate and claim they are doing homeopathy. They can be the
author of their own provings, for example. We don't tell people not to use homeopathy. It is obvious
that we have different perceptions on dealing with health and how to influence the public that we deal
with.
tanya

[Gail A]

I think it might be that Vitamin D status could be part of maintaining causes.

I live in one of the sunniest cities in the world and many doctors here have started checking Vitamin D levels. Deficiency is more common than sufficiency. Latest research is showing that it's the middle of the day sunlight that we need to make Vitamin D, because it's the length of the light ray that matters, not just sunlight. Also we shouldn't be washing too soon after we come in from the sun, because time is needed for whatever happens on the skin to be absorbed into the body.

Our lifestyles keep many of us inside during the day under fluorescent lighting and if we are outside the message here of 'Slip, Slop, Slap' to protect our skin from cancer causing sunlight is so strong that getting a good dose of sunlight comes with a good dose of guilt about irresponsiblity.

Lifestyle and diet is the basis of homoeopathy - if they are correct you often don't even need to give a rememdy.

Gail

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" § 94

While inquiring into the state of chronic disease, the particular circumstances of the patient with regard to his ordinary occupations, his usual mode of living and diet, his domestic situation, and so forth, must be well considered and scrutinized, to ascertain what there is in them that may tend to produce or to maintain disease, in order that by their removal the recovery may by prompted.."

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Vitamins and supplements

[Dr. DHMS]

That's Homeopathy! what a good statement is, must be followed.

Dr.

--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Gail A wrote: