Genus Epidemicus anyone?

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Erica,
This is srp indeed.

It would suggest that this "cold" also affects the muscles, possibly
but not necessarily only or most strongly those of the neck/shoulders.

So the remedy IMO should have these symptoms as its own key-note,
together with (secondary perhaps) the runny nose etc.

It would, of course, be nice if it also had the sweat on the nose.

Or even one might try and prescribe just on that, since it is perhaps
even more srp.

Before you flame: I have outed myself before that I do prescribe on
keynotes and sometimes even on one keynote only. I also know thy I do
it - it matches my theory of the action of homeopathy and on what
symptoms mean or do not mean.

So I may be heretic - I am not lazy:-)

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[McPhee Family]

Hi Luise,
No flaming here - I completely agree. Those are the two symptoms which stood out the most to me. The neck symptom in particular because it was so strong in the two. That is why I chose Phosphorous. It has pain in back, agg with cough as well as perspiration on single parts. Additionally, Phos has back, stiffness, painful, cervical region. Bryonia (Phos acute) seems like a likely choice as well however, these two although sick, didn't really act like they were that sick (Phos).
On further searching, it appears perhaps Alumina would be appropriate (complementary to Bryonia) - it is the only remedy listed for Back Pain, stitching, shooting, cervical region, coughing. The MM from Timothy Allen seems a good description. Although doesn't specifically describe this rubric.
I think Nux-V is a very good candidate as well since it does cover the symptoms. A new symptom just reported is sneezing paroxysm creating dizziness. Senega covers the tickling cough and this symptom - a remedy I have both never heard of, do not own, and is in none of their kits. But Nux has vertigo from sneezing as well stiffness/pain in cervical region, as well as perspiration on nose and singular parts. While it doesn't specifically have back pain agg with coughing, it does have back, coughing agg. I'll have to give the MMs a close read.
When I asked for further description on the neck/cough pain, he said, "Every time I cough, it's like someone is whacking me in the back of the neck with a hammer or ice pick. It's so painful when I know I am going to cough, I wince in anticipation."
Although, the first case which went to Allium Cepa said 3 teaspoon doses yesterday of 1M said last night he feels completely better - no symptoms. Voice sounds normal as well (no nasal or hoarseness).
Thanks for your thoughts! Very helpful.
Truly,
Erica
This is srp indeed.

It would suggest that this "cold" also affects the muscles, possibly
but not necessarily only or most strongly those of the neck/shoulders.

So the remedy IMO should have these symptoms as its own key-note,
together with (secondary perhaps) the runny nose etc.

It would, of course, be nice if it also had the sweat on the nose.

Or even one might try and prescribe just on that, since it is perhaps
even more srp.

Before you flame: I have outed myself before that I do prescribe on
keynotes and sometimes even on one keynote only. I also know thy I do
it - it matches my theory of the action of homeopathy and on what
symptoms mean or do not mean.

So I may be heretic - I am not lazy:-)

Regards

Luise

[Joy Lucas]

Which is why I suggested Stannum - it has stitches in the back, namely the muscles of the neck and small of back (nearly always from coughing because of the weakness of the lungs - hacking cough) as well as fitting the other sx but Bell and Sulph have this sx, cervical pain with coughing as do several other rx such as Bryonia that you have already mentioned.

Joy

http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/

[McPhee Family]

Thanks Joy. I looked at Stannum but I could find no connection with the neck/cervical/shoulder pain and the coughing. There was no pain in the small of the back for either case. Perhaps my interpretation needs to be more open to make the connection rather than looking for the specific cervical pain from coughing. But since I could find that specific in others I thought those may be better choices.
I waivered on Belladonna several times because it does cover the symptoms so well. I didn't choose it because there was no fever, no redness, no sudden, voilent onset. I suppose that is negative prescribing though (going by what's not there instead of what is), but I felt it didn't cover the energy. I may have been wrong on that.
Bryonia has certainly been helpful in the other cases.
Truly,
Erica
Joy wrote:
Which is why I suggested Stannum - it has stitches in the back, namely the muscles of the neck and small of back (nearly always from coughing because of the weakness of the lungs - hacking cough) as
well as fitting the other sx but Bell and Sulph have this sx, cervical pain with coughing as do several other rx such as Bryonia that you have already mentioned.

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Erica,

Working the way Hahnemann and v. B. did*, i.e. straigth mahching of
symptoms

AND use srp sx wherever such exist

and adding some Nash's "3-legs make a firmly-placed stool", i. e. 3
symptoms are sufficient, I came up with Bell and Sulphur.

Kent: Pain/back/ cervical region/ coughing
Stiffness/cervical region/coryza during
cold, after taking

The are the only ones that run through.

* as long as Chris or someone else does not show me where v. Boen.
talks about extending the symptoms, I stick by my providential opinion
that this was added by Boger and will rely on what I have seen in his
casebooks for my opinion concerning the way he worked.
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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[McPhee Family]

Thanks for that. Belladonna and Sulphur definitely seem possible. However, it didn't seem to fit the Belladonna urgency/intensity/ no fever, no red face, came on slow, etc. But Sulphur is definitely possible. However, it seems there is not a GE for this... it's all over the map, and changes going forward.
I had one more case which ameliorated immediately with Eup. Perf (severe burning and red eyes with pain in feet and legs but no pain in neck - All Cep did not amel). Two of the others went on to the Allium Cep which has ameliorated nicely now for 3 cases so far. I'm going to give one of the fellows Sulphur (his constitutional anyhow).
Hope it helps someone! Thanks for looking at this so closely.
Truly,
Erica

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Ercia,

I hope you will keep informing us on that cold and on the way the
suggested (and other) remedies work.

I have all. cepa in the back of my mind now should this specific cold
swap over to us.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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