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Shannon Nelson
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Re: hates mother

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Maybe "MIND; BEGGING, entreating (11) : achy., ars., aur., bell.,
kali-c., lyss., plat., plb., puls., stann., stram."?

I was particularly thinking puls? (also thought of anac, but maybe
this isn't an anac dynamic) Lyssin seems worth a thought too?
(delusion, injured, plus the whole dog dependent thing???)
Platina? (in rubric above)

Ooooh... (I writhe in sympathy. :-) )
Would that suit puls, perhaps?

This one is sort of a stretch, but something about the *types* of
dependence, and rejection of realistic approaches???

MIND; CHILDISH behavior (62) : acon., aeth., agar., alco., aloe, alum.,
ambr., anac., apis, arg-n., arn., ars., BAR-C., bar-m., bell., bov.,
bufo, calad., calc., carb-an., carb-v., carbn-s., carc., caust.,
chlol., Cic., con., croc., crot-c., falco-p., germ., hell., hyos.,
ign., kali-br., kres., lac-h., lach., lyc., mosch., nat-c., nux-m.,
nux-v., op., par., ph-ac., phos., pic-ac., plb., puls., rhus-t.,
seneg., sep., sil., stram., sulfa., sulph., tab., thyr., tub., verat.,
viol-o.

Crossing "childish" with "begging" gives stram, plb, ars, bell, puls.

Any fears? I guess "abandoned" would be one; what does he think would
happen then?
Shannon


Shannon Nelson
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Re: hates mother

Post by Shannon Nelson »

What do you know about the death threat? Is there any clue there,
either in what happened, or why it happened, or how he's reacting?
What prevents him from working?

I've been trying to refresh my memory on some of the less-standard
miasms; mostly I'm remembering as described by Will Taylor, syphilitic
having to do with a sort of cold destructiveness; rabies to do with
sudden, unreasoning, instinctive terror. Does either of these seem to
fit *either* what has happened to him, or his response? (Maybe I'm
barking up a dead and vacant tree here... :-) I guess in part I'm
exploring the possibility of Lyssin.
Shannon)


Shannon Nelson
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Re: hates mother

Post by Shannon Nelson »

An interesting approach, Beverly!!
Dare I ask you to describe the method more? E.g. high potency or low,
and do you sometimes use more than one in a single session, or is it
more spread out? I'd read a description of *someone* doing something
that sounds similar, can't now remember who, or where.


Theresa Partington
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Re: hates mother

Post by Theresa Partington »

Hi Beverley
Tanya's assessment seems very likely but another way of looking at it is from the viewpoint that 'rescuers' have 'victims' as well as 'persectors/abusers'. In other words, being rescued might feel like a form of persecution to the young man with any implications for remedies that might have.
Turning on the mother is a way of trying to reverse those roles and turning her into the victim. Classic 'game'.
According to Sankaran persecuted remedies are interchangeable with persecutor remedies - rubrics in either would do.
The families that have this abuser/abused stuff are Umbelliferae, Paperveraceae (with numbness which might be indicated in denial of father's abuse) and perhaps Compositae. I am feeling my way with these family groupings and would actually use it to make sense of remedies that came up in a repertorisation of the patient's actual tangible, visible, behaviours and symptoms. You could look at exact words that he uses too and gestures to see if that helps with this route. S. lists source words for each family.
Good luck
Theresa


Rosemary Hyde
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Re: hates mother

Post by Rosemary Hyde »

Good thoughts, Theresa. I think I might be tempted to add the Solanaceae to the "abused/ abuser" list???
Rosemary


John Doo
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Re: hates mother

Post by John Doo »

I know someone had similar problems. He was healed by using Ammonium Muriaticum.
I don't know if this will help in your case. Just something for considering.
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eternalhealth
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Re: hates mother

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no other people in life except greandmother, uncle, mother and girlfriend. Was running a business- now tooo ill to work. Uncle has problems psychologically form convulsions as a child and is competing for attention. So no good male role models. Say slvoes girlfriend but also has bouts of being upset with her as threats came to him because of something her daughter said to her uncle. Veyr involved I know but each person in his life seems to represent a connection to something unsafe that has happened in reality.

physicals are tiredness and emaciation but is starting to put on weight and in general appetite good


eternalhealth
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Re: hates mother

Post by eternalhealth »

Wow, thanks Shannon - appreciate your work to send this info.

yes feels always has been alone with no support system. it seems has also put himsel fin the face of danger i.e. sleeping in a park as a teenager, walking in the dark, perhaps to prove that he can cope. Feels not worth going on as he has put great effort into everything and nothing works

Beverly


eternalhealth
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Re: hates mother

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Yes, threat of death with mutilation was as a result of misinterpretaiton of an argument he had with his girlfriend. girlfriend's daughter told her uncle who then threatened him. The fact that uncle does have connections with people you wouldn't want to meet on a dark street has made him fearful that anything he says could be misinterpreted by the girl and the threat acted on even though the girl likes him and noone has immeediate contact with the uncle who has taken no interest in him since the threat. The girlfriends mother does have contact as he is her son. So there is no escape - He likens the fact of loving his girlfriend to have a favourite t-shirt with a stain on it - you love it but the mark is always there.

Girlfriend is very supportive
What do you know about the death threat? Is there any clue there,
either in what happened, or why it happened, or how he's reacting?
What prevents him from working?

I've been trying to refresh my memory on some of the less-standard
miasms; mostly I'm remembering as described by Will Taylor, syphilitic
having to do with a sort of cold destructiveness; rabies to do with
sudden, unreasoning, instinctive terror. Does either of these seem to
fit *either* what has happened to him, or his response? (Maybe I'm
barking up a dead and vacant tree here... :-) I guess in part I'm
exploring the possibility of Lyssin.
Shannon)


eternalhealth
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Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:00 pm

Re: hates mother

Post by eternalhealth »

Yes Shannon - sorry, i break all the 'rules' if there any any in this approach.

I have a background with psychology involved and use some methods on rare occasions to have the patient allow their mind to bring up whatever is going on with the patient in full charge of proceedings. - It will bring it up in the order it wants to deal with things. the brain will interpret the event in a feeling, often attached to a physical sensation and perhaps a colour and a shape [sounds strange but it does] the person then as they feel that emotion may change the characters parts or speak to one of the characters or change the size of the character or delete the scene [many options] to empower themselves again. i will give a remedy during that emotional state and yes often there may be more than one remedy in a session dependig on how many different scenes/emotional comporents there are to deal with. It may be a 200c or 1m potency say of aconite and later a 30c water or dy dose of something else. keep it to the smallest amount needed but someone in the height of fear!
needs a higher remedy.

Hoep that helps explain it a litte
Beverly


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