Nux vomica--other pictures?

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Joy Lucas
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Joy Lucas »

As a preventative against what though? Someone either needs the rx
phosphorus or they don't, in my simple way of looking at cases :-)

Best wishes, Joy
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Against what? Well, against whatever they were previously getting phos
(or calc or lyc or whatever) for; against whatever phos (or calc or lyc
or whatever) might be prone to... It's Eizayaga's philosophy, and
that's all I know about it! Back to that good ol' debate about
prophylaxis, I guess.
:-)
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Joy Lucas
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Joy Lucas »

It can be subtle and the individual can be stuck in the 'sympathetic'
stage to the extent that you might not begin to think of Nux vomica -
they might have learnt to control it or the pathology might only be on
a physical plane such as asthma or constipation, but that is why
careful and full case taking is so important and it will be that which
reveals the evidence of the phases of the more typical Nux vomica
picture. Best wishes, Joy
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Ellen Madono
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Ellen Madono »

Baily always has lots of alternative pictures. I think he says that the emotions of Nux are readily available to him. Also, he is very passionate. So, if he feels sympathetic toward you, he knows it and expresses it. He is not suppressed like Nat-m etc. He can be very compassionate as well as passionate. I was surprised too, but it makes sense. Have not met a patient like this.
Baily gives lots of fairly healthy views of remedies. When looking at all these terribly pathological pictures, the healthy ones can be hard to construct. If you are a new-be like me, those are the people that you try to see, the fairly healthy ones.
Blessings,
Ellen


Kathryn Ellen Madono
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Kathryn Ellen Madono »

Baily always has lots of alternative pictures. I think he says that the emotions of Nux are readily available to him. Also, he is very passionate. So, if he feels sympathetic toward you, he knows it and expresses it. He is not suppressed like Nat-m etc. He can be very compassionate as well as passionate. I was surprised too, but it makes sense. Have not met a patient like this.
Baily gives lots of fairly healthy views of remedies. When looking at all these terribly pathological pictures, the healthy ones can be hard to construct. If you are a new-be like me, those are the people that you try to see, the fairly healthy ones.
Blessings,
Ellen


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Rats, that's another I don't have...
The explanation sounds good, tho.
Thanks!
Shannon
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Kathryn Ellen Madono
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Kathryn Ellen Madono »

It's in Radar 9 I think, if you have that.


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Nope, I've got a RefWks, and now about six years old. Well, I'll look
for it!
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Roger
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Roger »

You might consider Herscu's cycles approach which gives
an understanding of the range of every remedy:

Herscu Cycle for Nux-v:

1. Sensitive nervous system
2. Irritated nerves(wants to do/get rid of it)(irritation makes them want
to do stuff)
3. Explosions/inflammation - Outward expression/anger/inflammation (tries
to do/get rid of it)
4. Spasms (can't do/get rid of it)(all nerves shooting off at the same
time)
5. Weakness/incompleteness
6. Need to compete/discontented/dissatisified (nothing is right/need to fix
it/complete it)
7. Need/desire for stimulus (stimulus will pick them up again/get them
going aagain)
(And back to sensitiveness... in an endless cycle)

In the segment of weakness they could exhibit timidity, etc.

In the sensitive segment the following might arise:
MIND; ANXIETY; others, for (34) **
MIND; ANXIETY; conscience, of (99) **
MIND; SYMPATHETIC, compassionate (61) **
MIND; SYMPATHETIC, compassionate; children; in (16) **

There are certain segments that may predominate in one
individual and other segments in other individuals.

Also, I think that polycrest remedies sometimes get credited
with too much that might better be assigned to a closer fit
remedy.

From: Shannon
Subject: Nux vomica--other pictures?

I keep seeing nux-v in rubrics that seem so different from the picture


Joy Lucas
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Re: Nux vomica--other pictures?

Post by Joy Lucas »

At the risk of repeating myself I still think it is important to say
that the 'passion', 'sympathy' etc has to be in line with other and
possibly easily recognisable sx of Nux vomica. Many, many people are
sympathetic but they don't all need Nux. If you think about where Nux
vomica is coming from rather than a series of seemingly unrelated sx
(in as much as they might appear to be contradictory or unusual to the
rx, to some people), then you will understand that their passion,
sympathy, etc comes from the need to be stimulated and being quick to
perceive - they are ardent to the nth degree. Equally Nux vomica can be
full of fear, totally confused and always making mistakes,, extremely
sensitive, weepy and sad, affectionate, cheerful, desire for
tranquility, feelings of guilt, extremely fastidious and careful, full
of doubt, indifferent, introspective, mischievous, bashful, and on -
but this is part of a diseased state not a healthy one, i.e. what
appears to be healthy sx are in fact sx that are dependent on the more
obvious unhealthy sx, so this makes them equally unhealthy.

It is a strychnine rx and if you study the fears and delusions this
will give you the full extent of their diseased state. Best wishes, Joy
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