Stroke

[Shannon Nelson]

If caust 15c acts well but only briefly, my first thought would be simply to
repeat it. Do you recall how long the action of each 12 and 30 dose lasted
for?

15c is a *low* potency, which is quite appropriate for what I think you're
describing, but usually needs to be repeated fairly frequently -- maybe even
daily, tho maybe much less than that.

30c is considered either "medium potency" or the start of high, and still
might likely need repeating fairly often (weekly? monthly? depending...).
But, from what I think you are describing, you would certainly not want to
go higher -- at least not to start, from my understanding.

My first thought would be to go back to 15c, note how long the effect lasts,
and plan on repeating just at the start of each relapse. You should be able
to find an "indicator symptom" to tell you when it's time. Then watch, and
see whether the time between re-dose is getting shorter (which means either
the remedy isn't quite right or it's time for a higher potency) or longer
(which means that cure is progressing, just continue with what you are
doing!).

Also notice whether the action of each dose is just as satisfactory as the
last, as this also can give a clue about what might need changing.

Hope this helps!
Shannon
on 11/7/03 5:30 PM, Witold Tomasik at anna_tomasik@yahoo.com wrote:

[E&M Wighton]

To add to Shannon's message, I have personal experience of using higher potencies. My homeopath started me on Ignatia 30c, it did a bit but wouldn't "hold", I repeated with the same result, so we gradually increased potency. After a period of months I was at 50M and that finally held. I have had a number of other remedies over the past couple of years, often having to go to 10M or 50M. I seem to respond well to these. After 2-1/2 years of treatment there has been gradual improvement and now, finally (!!!!) thirty-two years of "depression" has lifted. This is what if feels like to be "normal"? High potencies can work, you watch carefully as you would anyway, as you are doing.

Best Wishes

Elizabeth

[Tanya Marquette]

i will concur about the safety and efficacy of higher potencies. i was taught that no potency is 'hallow.'
i have often started a treatement with 200c and have used 1M potencies with great success and no agg.
once, being somewhat timid, i opened the case with 200c; it worked briefly. the pt decided he was too
committed to his pathology and didnt come back. in retrospect, a 10-50M would have been appropriate.
in my own case, lower potencies rarely have any impact on me. even with acutes. the message taught to
me was to try and assess the strength of the vital force, the depth of the problem and the sensitivity of the pt.
not very concrete measures but guidelines to follow.

tanya

[Witold Tomasik]

Thank you Tanya,
Great support of high potencies.But I'm very scared of
aggravations-really.
She is not committed to her symptoms (although she
told me about self-hypnosis session where she was
guided to see her symptoms in whatever form and she
saw them as nice cuddly animals she held on her
lap-that scared her from doing it again-she
consciously doesn't want to hold to her symptoms but
that pesky unconsciousness...) just after so much time
there should be some action.

See, because of these "not concrete measures"
homeopathy is not only science but also art.Thank you
for writing them.
Best wishes,
Anna
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[Tanya Marquette]

i think the jist of the guided journeys is help people accept their issues,
symptoms, etc. this doesnt mean they are committed to them, but it is
an attempt to help not running away from them; ie, suppressing or sublimating
them.

btw, i didnt mean to imply that all people are committed to maintaining their pathology--
only that this particular man was. a very high potency might have held better and worked
deeper, possibly breaking through some of his fears/angers and whatever.

tanya

[Witold Tomasik]

Congratulation Elisabeth and thank you for telling
your story.
Your homeopath must have been very sure it was
Ignatia. Like I am sure it is causticum. But I didn't
say it acts well- it just acts - causes its symptoms
that she didn't have before and her vital force deals
with them so they are short-lived.
But the symptoms post-stroke (that also can be caused
by caust) are still there seemingly intact.
after 30c it was exactly the same as after 15c
It just doesn't act the way I want it to act: on her
symptoms.(if it just was the matter of the holding
time I would just increase frequency or potency-as you
did with Ignatia.
caust is deep- and long-acting, maybe more than 2
months are needed here to see the results? I really
don't want to think it's a wrong remedy-because it
seems so right!
I wish I had more experience in dealing with such
cases...
Warm regards,
Anna
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[Julian Winston]

At 1:24 PM -0800 11/12/03, Witold Tomasik wrote:

Long ago, a teacher (not sure who) said that he's never met a
prescriber who gave a potency higher than they have ever personally
taken.

JW

[Tanya Marquette]

so are we talking about 'projection' in practice!

tanya

[Shannon Nelson]

Ummmm...
I think we are simply talking about using the tools one is more familiar
with!!! Not a bad starting point, tho one may need to move beyond it.

Shannon

on 11/13/03 4:55 AM, tanya at tamarque@frontiernet.net wrote:

[Witold Tomasik]

In that tape they wanted pts to destroy their
symptoms-and she couldn't do it to these creatures.
Stroke is difficult to treat and with my experience I
would never take such case but she is actually a
friend and a neighbor and wouldn't probably consider
homeopathy if not for me.
Hahnemann in Organon talks about the single low
potency dose that could bring about a cure - and I'm
thinking about higher potencies!
So maybe this guy you were treating was cured with
these 200c??? I understood right-although
thinkingabout it I see that many people really like
their symptoms-I believe they THINK they have no other
choice, it could always be worse. They probablyy do
not know homeopathy.
Best,
Anna
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