plastic cups and spoons for lm's

[Sheila Parks]

dear nancy, i think it was you specifically who asked about why plastic cups
and spoons in my directions about taking lm potencies from luc deschepper.
sorry it has taken so long to answer. from my lecture notes and in his
book, appendix one, no page listed: use plastic to make sure there are no
traces of either food or liquid or other remedies present. washing out is
not enough. then you just discard the plastic cups and spoons. sheila

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[Nancy Siciliana]

Hi Sheila,

Actually, it wasn't me--but I am glad you've posted this to the list anyway.

Thanks!

Nancy

[Jasbir Kaur Villaschi]

Hi Sheila,

just a quickie ..what about contaminants from plastic production? wouldn't these
possibly be a factor to watch out for ??

Jas

Sheila Parks wrote:

[Sheila Parks]

first, it was mary-anne black that wrote and asked me originally about
plastics, so i hope you saw my response yesterday, mary-anne. jas,
certainly there could be contaminants in plastic. i also use plastic in my
life,not only in homeopathy and try to be very careful with putting hot food
in plastic containers, etc. i don't have an easy or quick answer, but will
ask around and think about it myself. my first response is yes, there may
be contaminants, but what else can we do. it is like the issue of irradiated
food, which is another whole issue, but related as i see it. more later,
sheila
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[Allen Coniglio]

This is just my opinion but, I believe that the epidemic of male and
especially female reproductive problems, increase in cancers, and many other
etc.'s are related to the widespread use of plastics and related products in
food storage, home and building construction, carpets, automobile interiors,
etc. over the past 50 or so years. Also, let's not forget the computers that
we sit at to type these messages to each other.

Allen

[The Annan's]

Interesting you should say this Allen.....
I saw a documentary (some time ago) on the impact that plastics are having
on society...fish changing sexes/changing into hermaphrodites, etc...and
they theorised (or was it fact?) that there is estrogen in the plastic..or
something like that. Maybe it was plastics reacting with something else
which made estrogen - synthetically......can't remember exactly.
Does anyone remember this? Anyone see it?

Made me think twice about drinking water out of plastic bottles...but where
I live currently, it's far too expensive to buy it in glass:(.
Best regards,
Lisa

[Allen Coniglio]

Hi Lisa - I believe it is the dioxin in the plastics that mimics and thereby
replaces/confuses the body's use of estrogen. This is as I recall it.
Allen

[Sara Klein Ridgley PhD]

The issue is of Xenoestrogens, or artificial, chemically produced
molecules that resemble estrogens and attach to the estrogen receptor
sites in the body.

These are everywhere. They are mostly petroleum based synthetic
estrogens, and they are now present in massive amounts in our food
chain, water supply and environment.

The diet is dominated by processed foods, which are stripped of the
beneficial phytoestrogens in fresh fruits, vegetables and grains. The
natural phytoestrogens are low action (weak) estrogens that fill the
body's estrogen receptor sites, making them unavailable for use by the
more potent estrogens, both natural and synthetic. The net result is
that virtually of the body's receptor sites are ready and waiting for
the far more intense estrogens. Some high ptoency estrogens (such as
estrone and estradiol) are produced by the body iteself. But the
greatest problem comes from teh powerful and destructive
petrochemical-based Xenoestrogens. Not only are these xenoestrogens
ompnipresent, they are considerably more potent than estrogen made by
the ovaries, some even potent in amounts as small as a billionth of a gram.

Petrochemicals are everywhere. In cosmetics, shampoos, soaps,
detergents, pesticides, in the automobile industry, etc., etc., not only
in our immediate plastics and water supply....

But as to the water bottles: Each plastic container at least in the USA
has to have a 'Recycling' number imprinted in it by law. These numbers
have a meaning and an implication as to the plastic's stability. They
are imprinted inside a 'triangle' shape.

Here are the numbers and their meanings, so you can decide what to do:

#1: This is the softest, transparent plastic, and it is the kind they
use for our bottled drinking water that they sell everywhere. This is
THE WORST type of plastic, as it is unstable and leeches out the most
Xenoestrogens into the water. The longer the bottle stands there,
either on the shelves or in transport (exposed to heat and the elements,
and light, which all contribute to the leeching of the plastics into the
water....), the worse the contamination. Also, this type of bottling
contributes grossly to reducing the water's pH to the acidic range,
which by itself is highly toxic for us to drink.

#2 : This is a much harder plastic, and it is semi-transparent plastic,
usually used for gallons of milk and also some store-bought water. This
plastic is stable and has a very low leeching potential.

#3 : This is a very thick and pliable plastic, used mainly for OILS.
BEWARE of this #3. It contains other serious toxins apart from
Xenoestrogens, and leeches carcinogens into the liquid inside. If it is
oil, we are in even worse shape, and this packaging should be avoided at
all cost.
#4 : This is rarely seen, but it is a close relative of #1.

#5 #6 : This is a hard and very stable plastic, we see it in containers
such as those used for cottage cheest and yogurt. These are relatively
safe.

#7 : These are a BLUE colored transparent hard plastic, that does not
leech much but it has been found to be dangerous to young males as it
affects the prostate in some manner (I don't know exactly what manner).

Most of the plastic cutlery is made from #5 above, which are the safest...
Now we can discuss the Homeopathic treatment of Xenoestrogen
contamination.....
Sara

[Mary-anne Black]

Hi Sheila,

Yes, thanks for your reply.
Mary-anne Black

[Dave Hartley]

Hi Allen,

While there is no doubt that "environmental pollutants" are likely
contributors, I suspect that plastics are merely one of perhaps a hundred
other examples of the last century's "better living thru Chemistry"
(paraphrased on one of my favorite websites as "Better Living through
Reckless Experimentation")

Specifically related to "epidemic of male and especially female reproductive
problems, increase in cancers, and many other etc" ... it seems to me to be
more like a vision of a society which is expressing miasmic dis-ease ..
individually and institutionally.. I believe that the intake of information
from the TV is 1000 times more likely to contribute to dis-ease than is the
plastic box comprising its housing.. and in the same way that we look at a
case to discover the "center" and the miasmic basis -I think we must look at
the sickness of society.. both in relation to itself, its individual
members, and its greater environment / biosphere.

Epidemic reproductive problems are also directly related to hormones added
to food supply; lowering of pubescent age of females too.

The number of implicated substances/toxins is literally too long to list!

And let's not forget allopathic iatrogenesis- which even by their own
figures is one of the leading causes of death in the "developed
ountries" -figures which are wholly unenlightened & therefore inaccurate by
our standards of chronic disease case management, where we might rightly
consider a near 100% contributory link between active cancers and the
allopathic medical paradigm overall- including its active suppression of
homeopathy..

some links for further research:

Chemical Manipulation of Consciousness, Behavior,
Health and Evolutionary Potential in the Human Population
http://www.trufax.org/menu/chem.html

Human Burden of Environmental Toxins and Their Common Health Effects
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/med5-1.html

Male Infertility: Nutritional and Environmental Considerations
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/infert5-1.html
regards,

Dave Hartley
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