Obstacles to cure

[Chana Levine]

Dear Minutus,

Over the course of the last three years I have been to three different
classically trained and qualified homeopaths, each of whom has spent
considerable time evaluating my case and searching for the most
similar remedy. I have at times experienced temporary improvement from
a few of these remedies, but have experienced no lasting improvement.
During this time my symptoms have worsened to the point where I feel I
can no longer invest the time needed to properly continue attempting
homeopathic treatment (I'm not able to work or meet the demands of
daily responsibilities). I am considering consulting a doctor of
Chinese Medicine, since I am under the impression that results can be
achieved with a lesser degree of precision in this modality.

Nonetheless, I remain captivated by the elegance of the theories of
Homeopathy. I avidly read the discussions on this list, and have not
given up the idea that I might make a good homeopath. I even enrolled
in a practitioner course a year ago, when I still had complete
confidence that homeopathy could help me. (I haven't progressed much
in this course, since my health is still weak). However, it doesn't
seem quite right to practice an art that has not been effective for
me, so I am questioning the wisdom of continuing the course.

How do I resolve this dissonance? At present, I have labeled
homeopathy "too subtle to practice effectively" in my case, and
perhaps many others. Reading minutus has enforced this perception as
the statistics of cured-cases, difficulty with repertory language,
disagreement about what needs to be cured (prescribing for
constitution vs. disease), etc. are discussed. Yet, because of my love
for the beauty of Homeopathic philosophy, I am looking for a way to
rescue it from the pile of nice theories of limited value.

I am turning to you, and the wisdom of your experience to help me
resolve my dilemma. I have a few questions:

1. Have you had cases which resisted progress until a specific
obstacle was removed, and which from that point on progressed
noticeably towards cure? If so, what were those obstacles. (I am not
interested theory, which knows no bounds, but rather in verified
clinical experience.)

2. Are there homeopathically-sound ways of dosing that allow for a
quicker evaluation of the action of the remedy? I'm not talking about
insta-cures in chronic cases, but rather an alternative to waiting 4-8
weeks before determining that the dosage or remedy needs to be
changed. (I imagine that there are cases in which waiting two months
to determine that the chosen remedy is ineffective could be dangerous
for the patient.)

3. I'll also welcome plain old advice, since a) I want to feel better,
and b) I want to one day practice homeopathy in good conscience.

Feel free to write me off-list, if you feel it is appropriate, or
on-list if you feel the discussion will benefit from it.

With gratitude,
SL

[Kerry Lawson]

Hello Chana Levine, I detect some obstacles to cure here one being "I have
labeled

It might simply be that you have not been prescribed the correct remedy or
potency or dose. And if you have spent time here on Minutus reading posts
you will now know how powerful and dynamic and curative Homeopathy has
always been and still continues to be.

Obstacles to cure can in many shape and forms and any good practitioner will
tell you that. Each case is individual and once an obstacle has been
observed it can be treated accordingly with great success.

Likewise with potency and dosing, every case is individual, some times many
weeks are involved before cure is recognisably beginning, sometimes just a
few minutes. On top of this every practitioner has their own methods of
working although the priorities of each case should be uppermost.

But the worst obstacle to cure of all is if you have a problem with
Homeopathy per se. How can you go forward with that attitude. Perhaps you
should move on to another form of healing. Thank you. Kerry
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[Magda Aguila]

From: "Kerry Lawson"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Obstacles to cure
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I have an issue with this last statement! This person admits to believing
in the beauty of Homeopathy, so assuming that the biggest obstacle to the
cure is the lack of belief is, IMO, hogwash!

I treat animals mostly, and my practice is 90% long distance. If ever there
was PROOF of the capabilities of Homeopathy curing when the single, proven
remedy, in the correct potency and the proper dose size works is when you
are treating an animal long distance!

I am yet to find a case that HOMEOPATHY cannot cure or greatly ameliorate
(including those with advanced pathology). The biggest obstacle to
Homeopathic cures is the lack of knowledge, understanding, and proper case
management of the HOMEOPATHS!

Blaming the patient is not the answer! It is obvious from Chana's post that
the case management has been GREATLY overlooked! Sending a patient home
with a prescription and not following up for weeks, or waiting 6-8 weeks to
make a determination as to the progress of the cae, is not good case
management no matter what "method of working" a practitioner may use!

Instead of putting the blame on Chana, how about helping find a GOOD
HOMEOPATH that will handle the case as it should be handled?

Magda Aguila
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Homeopathic Consultations
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[Shannon Nelson]

??? Kerry... I think you are reading in here... What's wrong with an
"attitude" of wanting to get well, recognizing that it hasn't happened
yet, and wondering what to do about it?
I thought her questions were thoughtfully and eloquently posed.

[Kerry Lawson]

Hello Magda (also Shannon) I take some offence whether intended or not. I
was respectfully promoting homeopathy to someone who seemed to have formed
many barriers of doubt, very serious ones and yet poetically (and
contradictorally) viewed homeopathy as "beautiful".

You are also speaking from a practitioners point of view and this person was
writing from a patients point of view. This is very different and has
nothing to do with long distance prescribing. I f ail to understand what
that has to do with this.

We do not know any details of Chana's case but I believe that if the mindset
is already partially or wholly set against a form of healing then you have a
sure obstacle to cure. No blame was being given, no need to get so angry.
Thank you Kerry.
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[Shannon Nelson]

But you are suggesting that she give up on homeopathy simply because
she has doubts, which is simply because it hasn't worked for her yet!
In my experience when the right remedy is given, it *works*, regardless
of the patient's expectation (or lack thereof). Homeopathy is NOT
placebo, and it DOESN'T depend on "belief", "attitude", whatever. Sure
there are patients who will be the *last* to see any improvement, even
tho everyone around them can see it clearly, but I saw nothing at all
to suggest that was Chana's situation; rather the reverse.

I hoped just to offer her the information she asked for, support her
continued interest, and say that yes, if her homeopaths are not able to
help her at present, she should certainly explore other options--but
don't give up on homeopathy, because sometimes you just need to wait
for the "wheel of fortune" to turn your way. I've had the experience
of waiting years to find the needed remedy; it's beautiful when the
breakthrough finally comes, and definitely worth the wait, but you have
to maintain wellbeing however you can in the meantime.

Maybe Magda and I misinterpreted the tone or intent of your note, in
which case I apologize for my part.
Shannon

[Kerry Lawson]

Hello Shannon. Email tones can be a problem I agree, so never mind. In my
studies I have frequently encountered patients who had little faith in
homeopathy even though they were trying it and they were very hard to treat
successfully. Some were especially difficult cases for other reasons but
certainly the attitude of the patient came into the case analysis. If we
don't consider the attitude of the patient then why do so many homeopaths
put a lot of importance on to emotional symptoms? The will to get better can
be as strong or weak as the reason they got ill.

And the enquiry was, after all, about obstacles to cure.

But if someone has quite made up their mind about the inadequacies of
homeopathy then why pursue it? They would be better off exploring some
other healing. I would always want to promote the wonders of homeopathy but
it isn't for everyone and there is no problem with that. Far better to find
the best healing route. Thanks. Kerry
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[yerewan]

Once a Dutch teacher we had at at school told us a story of a patient of his.
This woman had been visiting him over a period of more than two years
getting various remedies none of which gave nothing but temporary relief
for her complaints. Then one day visiting her homoeopath again she told
him how she used to ride a bicycle to work , let's say. Every time she
passed the local church she had this unexplainable guilty feeling as if she
had committed a crime. A feeling she had never mentioned before because
she felt there was no need to as there was no crime she possibly could be
guilty for. And she felt it only when passing the church. BUT she also thought
that while passing that church the vicar KNEW her guilt.
By repertorising this symptom and as there is only one remedy there for that
symptom the woman got Cobaltum met. and was happily cured.
Mind del.- criminal, he is a - others know it, and

-will-

[yerewan]

Once a Dutch teacher we had at at school told us a story of a patient of his.
This woman had been visiting him over a period of more than two years
getting various remedies none of which gave nothing but temporary relief
for her complaints. Then one day visiting her homoeopath again she told
him how she used to ride a bicycle to work , let's say. Every time she
passed the local church she had this unexplainable guilty feeling as if she
had committed a crime. A feeling she had never mentioned before because
she felt there was no need to as there was no crime she possibly could be
guilty for. And she felt it only when passing the church. BUT she also thought
that while passing that church the vicar KNEW her guilt.
By repertorising this symptom and as there is only one remedy there for that
symptom the woman got Cobaltum met. and was happily cured.
Mind del.- criminal, he is a - others know it, and

-will-

[Marleen]

Hi Yerewan,

and thats why i think many cases go limp! 1, because the homeopath does
not always have all
the info needed and 2 because a lot of homeopaths do not dig deep enough
(spoken from the
patient i once was ... experiance viewpoint i mean)

Marleen