Dear Melissa
Getting someone off any allopathic medication can be tough.
I would suggest that you need to establish a good homoeopathic remedy for
this patient and then think about withdrawal.
I would also recommend that you liaise with the person who prescribed this
medicine.
When it comes to the actual withdrawal, unless they have it in liquid form
for children, then you have a problem as it comes in capsules.
I would discuss it with a pharmacist as to how each dose could be reduced by
a small amount.
With tablets I get the patient to scrape the tablet against a dedicated
metal nail file, cumulatively one scrape for each dose taken.
With liquids you can use a graduated syringe and reduce the amount by a
division daily.
Rgds
Soroush
=====
Summary
ZOLOFT Pfizer
Sertraline HCI
Use:
SSRI. Depression: Patients > 18 years of age: Initially, 50 mg once daily;
increase dosage gradually, if needed, at 1-week intervals. Maximum: 200
mg/day. Maintenance: lowest effective dose.
Panic disorder: 25 mg once daily and increase, if necessary, by 50 mg
increments at intervals of no less than 1 week, to a maximum of 200 mg/day.
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD): Initially, 50 mg/day. Thereafter,
increase the dosage, if necessary, by 50 mg increments, over several weeks
or months, to a maximum of 200 mg/day.
Zoloft's effectiveness for more than 12 weeks of therapy in panic disorder
and OCD not yet established.
Contraindications:
Not to be use with an MAOI or within 14 days of starting or discontinuing
MAOI therapy. Concomitant use with pimozide.
Precautions:
Pregnancy, lactation, patients< 18 years of age. Seizure disorders, a
history of drug abuse, renal or hepatic impairment. Activation of
mania/hypomania, suicidal tendency, concomitant illnesses that could affect
metabolism or hemodynamic responses. Rare reports of altered platelet
function; hyponatremia, possibly due to the syndrome of inappropriate
antidiuretic hormone secretion.
Side effects:
Nausea, diarrhea/loose stools, dyspepsia, male sexual dysfunction (primarily
ejaculatory delay), insomnia, somnolence, tremor, increased sweating, dry
mouth, dizziness.
Interactions:
See Contraindications. Use cautiously with CNS-active drugs; serotonergic
drugs, such as fenfluramine, should not be used with sertraline.
Hypoglycemic agents, drugs highly bound to plasma proteins, cimetidine (may
decrease clearance of sertraline). Warfarin (monitor PT). St. John's Wort
(increase in undesirable effects).
Patient tips:
Full therapeutic effect may be delayed until 4 or more weeks of treatment.
Take capsules with food once daily, preferably with evening meal or
breakfast. May cause dizziness (NB driving). Restrict alcohol intake.
Supplied:
25 mg, 50 mg, 100mg capsules.
Message: 25
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:30:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Melissa Bolling
Subject: Re: Looking for info to help get child off Zoloft
Hi everyone. I just got a message back from the mother and they live in the
Minneapolis/St. Paul area of Minnesota. Just north of there actually. She
is very open to homeopathy (yeah!) and would like help with a referral if
possible. If anyone has any suggestions I would very much appreciate any
help.
ZOLOFT
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Melissa Bolling
- Posts: 18
- Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:00 pm
Re: ZOLOFT
Thank you Soroush,
That makes complete sense if I understand you correctly. By dealing with the primary issue first, finding a homeopathic substitute for the drug. And then deal with the withdrawal symptoms as they emerge. Is this what you mean? Those are wonderful suggestions for cutting back on the dosage.
I am amazed at the age these people will put these babies on these powerful drugs. The side effects are awful and who knows what it is really doing to their little brains. One of my son's evaluations ended with the doctor saying he was glad that he wasn't going to have to recommend drugs for him. I all but laughed and said I wouldn't have given them to him anyway.
I can't wait to share this with my new friend. I am amazed at what can be accomplished with homeopathy. It isn't a wonder that all those allopathic doctors cringe when homeopathy is mentioned. Homeopathy is so much better and they probably know it!!
With much respect, thank you,
Melissa
Finrod wrote:
Dear Melissa
Getting someone off any allopathic medication can be tough.
I would suggest that you need to establish a good homoeopathic remedy for
this patient and then think about withdrawal.
I would also recommend that you liaise with the person who prescribed this
medicine.
When it comes to the actual withdrawal, unless they have it in liquid form
for children, then you have a problem as it comes in capsules.
I would discuss it with a pharmacist as to how each dose could be reduced by
a small amount.
With tablets I get the patient to scrape the tablet against a dedicated
metal nail file, cumulatively one scrape for each dose taken.
With liquids you can use a graduated syringe and reduce the amount by a
division daily.
Rgds
Soroush
=====
Summary
ZOLOFT Pfizer
Sertraline HCI
Use:
SSRI. Depression: Patients > 18 years of age: Initially, 50 mg once daily;
increase dosage gradually, if needed, at 1-week intervals. Maximum: 200
mg/day. Maintenance: lowest effective dose.
Panic disorder: 25 mg once daily and increase, if necessary, by 50 mg
increments at intervals of no less than 1 week, to a maximum of 200 mg/day.
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD): Initially, 50 mg/day. Thereafter,
increase the dosage, if necessary, by 50 mg increments, over several weeks
or months, to a maximum of 200 mg/day.
Zoloft's effectiveness for more than 12 weeks of therapy in panic disorder
and OCD not yet established.
Contraindications:
Not to be use with an MAOI or within 14 days of starting or discontinuing
MAOI therapy. Concomitant use with pimozide.
Precautions:
Pregnancy, lactation, patients< 18 years of age. Seizure disorders, a
history of drug abuse, renal or hepatic impairment. Activation of
mania/hypomania, suicidal tendency, concomitant illnesses that could affect
metabolism or hemodynamic responses. Rare reports of altered platelet
function; hyponatremia, possibly due to the syndrome of inappropriate
antidiuretic hormone secretion.
Side effects:
Nausea, diarrhea/loose stools, dyspepsia, male sexual dysfunction (primarily
ejaculatory delay), insomnia, somnolence, tremor, increased sweating, dry
mouth, dizziness.
Interactions:
See Contraindications. Use cautiously with CNS-active drugs; serotonergic
drugs, such as fenfluramine, should not be used with sertraline.
Hypoglycemic agents, drugs highly bound to plasma proteins, cimetidine (may
decrease clearance of sertraline). Warfarin (monitor PT). St. John's Wort
(increase in undesirable effects).
Patient tips:
Full therapeutic effect may be delayed until 4 or more weeks of treatment.
Take capsules with food once daily, preferably with evening meal or
breakfast. May cause dizziness (NB driving). Restrict alcohol intake.
Supplied:
25 mg, 50 mg, 100mg capsules.
Message: 25
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:30:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Melissa Bolling
Subject: Re: Looking for info to help get child off Zoloft
Hi everyone. I just got a message back from the mother and they live in the
Minneapolis/St. Paul area of Minnesota. Just north of there actually. She
is very open to homeopathy (yeah!) and would like help with a referral if
possible. If anyone has any suggestions I would very much appreciate any
help.
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That makes complete sense if I understand you correctly. By dealing with the primary issue first, finding a homeopathic substitute for the drug. And then deal with the withdrawal symptoms as they emerge. Is this what you mean? Those are wonderful suggestions for cutting back on the dosage.
I am amazed at the age these people will put these babies on these powerful drugs. The side effects are awful and who knows what it is really doing to their little brains. One of my son's evaluations ended with the doctor saying he was glad that he wasn't going to have to recommend drugs for him. I all but laughed and said I wouldn't have given them to him anyway.
I can't wait to share this with my new friend. I am amazed at what can be accomplished with homeopathy. It isn't a wonder that all those allopathic doctors cringe when homeopathy is mentioned. Homeopathy is so much better and they probably know it!!
With much respect, thank you,
Melissa
Finrod wrote:
Dear Melissa
Getting someone off any allopathic medication can be tough.
I would suggest that you need to establish a good homoeopathic remedy for
this patient and then think about withdrawal.
I would also recommend that you liaise with the person who prescribed this
medicine.
When it comes to the actual withdrawal, unless they have it in liquid form
for children, then you have a problem as it comes in capsules.
I would discuss it with a pharmacist as to how each dose could be reduced by
a small amount.
With tablets I get the patient to scrape the tablet against a dedicated
metal nail file, cumulatively one scrape for each dose taken.
With liquids you can use a graduated syringe and reduce the amount by a
division daily.
Rgds
Soroush
=====
Summary
ZOLOFT Pfizer
Sertraline HCI
Use:
SSRI. Depression: Patients > 18 years of age: Initially, 50 mg once daily;
increase dosage gradually, if needed, at 1-week intervals. Maximum: 200
mg/day. Maintenance: lowest effective dose.
Panic disorder: 25 mg once daily and increase, if necessary, by 50 mg
increments at intervals of no less than 1 week, to a maximum of 200 mg/day.
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD): Initially, 50 mg/day. Thereafter,
increase the dosage, if necessary, by 50 mg increments, over several weeks
or months, to a maximum of 200 mg/day.
Zoloft's effectiveness for more than 12 weeks of therapy in panic disorder
and OCD not yet established.
Contraindications:
Not to be use with an MAOI or within 14 days of starting or discontinuing
MAOI therapy. Concomitant use with pimozide.
Precautions:
Pregnancy, lactation, patients< 18 years of age. Seizure disorders, a
history of drug abuse, renal or hepatic impairment. Activation of
mania/hypomania, suicidal tendency, concomitant illnesses that could affect
metabolism or hemodynamic responses. Rare reports of altered platelet
function; hyponatremia, possibly due to the syndrome of inappropriate
antidiuretic hormone secretion.
Side effects:
Nausea, diarrhea/loose stools, dyspepsia, male sexual dysfunction (primarily
ejaculatory delay), insomnia, somnolence, tremor, increased sweating, dry
mouth, dizziness.
Interactions:
See Contraindications. Use cautiously with CNS-active drugs; serotonergic
drugs, such as fenfluramine, should not be used with sertraline.
Hypoglycemic agents, drugs highly bound to plasma proteins, cimetidine (may
decrease clearance of sertraline). Warfarin (monitor PT). St. John's Wort
(increase in undesirable effects).
Patient tips:
Full therapeutic effect may be delayed until 4 or more weeks of treatment.
Take capsules with food once daily, preferably with evening meal or
breakfast. May cause dizziness (NB driving). Restrict alcohol intake.
Supplied:
25 mg, 50 mg, 100mg capsules.
Message: 25
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:30:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Melissa Bolling
Subject: Re: Looking for info to help get child off Zoloft
Hi everyone. I just got a message back from the mother and they live in the
Minneapolis/St. Paul area of Minnesota. Just north of there actually. She
is very open to homeopathy (yeah!) and would like help with a referral if
possible. If anyone has any suggestions I would very much appreciate any
help.
ATTENTION PLEASE:
The Minutus Group is established purely for the promotion of Homoeopathy and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this website and/or email postings for any purpose. The entire risk arising out of their use remains with the recipient. In no event shall the minutus site or its individual members be liable for any direct, consequential, incidental, special, punitive or other damages whatsoever and howsoever caused.
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Re: ZOLOFT
Hi Melissa,
The usual approach (and I think that's what Soroush was saying, but
please correct me if I'm wrong!) is not to find a homeopathic drug
replacement, but rather to find what the patient's indicated chronic
remedy is--probably the same remedy they would be given if you saw them
*before* they were put on the drug. Usually that will reduce the
"need" for the drug, as well as bringing about improvements in other
areas. Once you see improvement has begun, then there is less risk
attached to beginning to slowly withdraw the drug.
Giving the drug in potency would I *think* be appropriate if he is
having side-effects, or if his overall chronic remedy can't be found
and there are problems with the withdrawal, but otherwise should not be
necessary.
Shannon
The usual approach (and I think that's what Soroush was saying, but
please correct me if I'm wrong!) is not to find a homeopathic drug
replacement, but rather to find what the patient's indicated chronic
remedy is--probably the same remedy they would be given if you saw them
*before* they were put on the drug. Usually that will reduce the
"need" for the drug, as well as bringing about improvements in other
areas. Once you see improvement has begun, then there is less risk
attached to beginning to slowly withdraw the drug.
Giving the drug in potency would I *think* be appropriate if he is
having side-effects, or if his overall chronic remedy can't be found
and there are problems with the withdrawal, but otherwise should not be
necessary.
Shannon
-
Melissa Bolling
- Posts: 18
- Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:00 pm
Re: ZOLOFT
Thank you Shannon,
I can't believe how much sense that makes!! I tell people often to talk to a homeopath and they look at me like I told them to hop around like a monkey. Heaven forbid I talk about eating organic. I just arrived at my parents house last night and she was trying to give my boys gummy snacks and chips, at 10:00 at night! We are about to pack up and head to the health food store now, I'm cooking dinner!
Thank you, everyone for taking an interest in this little boy. It reminds me of a favorite story of mine. A little boy was on the beach picking up starfish that had beached themselves. A man questioned why try when there were so many, he couldn't save them all. The little boy picked one up threw it in the water and said "I made a difference in that one's life".
Melissa
Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Hi Melissa,
The usual approach (and I think that's what Soroush was saying, but
please correct me if I'm wrong!) is not to find a homeopathic drug
replacement, but rather to find what the patient's indicated chronic
remedy is--probably the same remedy they would be given if you saw them
*before* they were put on the drug. Usually that will reduce the
"need" for the drug, as well as bringing about improvements in other
areas. Once you see improvement has begun, then there is less risk
attached to beginning to slowly withdraw the drug.
Giving the drug in potency would I *think* be appropriate if he is
having side-effects, or if his overall chronic remedy can't be found
and there are problems with the withdrawal, but otherwise should not be
necessary.
Shannon
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I can't believe how much sense that makes!! I tell people often to talk to a homeopath and they look at me like I told them to hop around like a monkey. Heaven forbid I talk about eating organic. I just arrived at my parents house last night and she was trying to give my boys gummy snacks and chips, at 10:00 at night! We are about to pack up and head to the health food store now, I'm cooking dinner!
Thank you, everyone for taking an interest in this little boy. It reminds me of a favorite story of mine. A little boy was on the beach picking up starfish that had beached themselves. A man questioned why try when there were so many, he couldn't save them all. The little boy picked one up threw it in the water and said "I made a difference in that one's life".
Melissa
Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
Hi Melissa,
The usual approach (and I think that's what Soroush was saying, but
please correct me if I'm wrong!) is not to find a homeopathic drug
replacement, but rather to find what the patient's indicated chronic
remedy is--probably the same remedy they would be given if you saw them
*before* they were put on the drug. Usually that will reduce the
"need" for the drug, as well as bringing about improvements in other
areas. Once you see improvement has begun, then there is less risk
attached to beginning to slowly withdraw the drug.
Giving the drug in potency would I *think* be appropriate if he is
having side-effects, or if his overall chronic remedy can't be found
and there are problems with the withdrawal, but otherwise should not be
necessary.
Shannon
ATTENTION PLEASE:
The Minutus Group is established purely for the promotion of Homoeopathy and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this website and/or email postings for any purpose. The entire risk arising out of their use remains with the recipient. In no event shall the minutus site or its individual members be liable for any direct, consequential, incidental, special, punitive or other damages whatsoever and howsoever caused.
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