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###OK, My Bad... I read the comparative Dudgeon/Boericke translation
of the 5th AND 6th Organon online, so my take on this is that the 5th
(which DOES mention the so called *split dose*/C's in medicinal
solution, etc.) seques wonderfully into the 6th with its perfected
LM's/medicinal solutions, etc., and *generally* leaves the dry dose in
the dust... I see people are having real trouble with the term *split
dose* - but call it what you will, *IT* is eminently adaptable to so
many varied situations - in my 'umble opinion/experience... Judith
Mateo - Portland OR
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At 04:13 PM 4/25/2005 -0000, you wrote:
Exactly right Judith
And it is adaptable in my experience too.
Sheri
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Exactly right Judith
And it is adaptable in my experience too.
Sheri
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Re: Split/Schmlit Dose - Semantics, Etc.
The students and colloquies,
The first clear rendition of a medicinal solution is found in the
Chronic Diseases in 1828 (Theoretical Part, BJain) In this work Hahnemann
wrote in the footnote to page 217:
"In case where the physician is certain as to the homeopathic specific
to be used, the attenuated dose may also be dissolved in about 4 ounces of
water by stirring it, and one third may be drunk at once, and the second
and third portions on the following days: but it should each time be again
stirred so as to increase the potency and thus to change it. Thereby the
remedy seems to take a deeper hold on the organism and hasten the
restoration in patients who are vigorous and not too sensitive."
In this quote Hahnemann introduces three four factors in posology.
1. The use of a medicinal solution made from the dry pellets.
2, The stirring of the remedy to slightly alter the potency before each dose.
3. Giving this solution in divided portions over a period of days.
4. Using this method ito make the remedy hold longer n those that are
vigorous and not too sensitive.
This is the origin of the idea of given a split-dose over a period of
three days in increasing potencies. This is the first explanation of what
would evolve into the medicinal solution method found in the 5th and 6th
Organon. At the time of the publication of the 5th Organon in 1833
Hahnemann was either giving the remedy in a spoon with a bit of water or
using 1 one 2 pills glass of water administered by spoonfuls. The use of a
glass was fine over a short period but he made up these water doses each
time they were need if the remedy was too be used over a longer period of
time. He was not completely satisfied this delivery system. Therefore he
began a new set of experiences which reach their acme around 1837. The
origin of the term "split-dose" is found in the Paris preface to the 1837
edition of The Chronic Diseases. Hahnemann wrote:
"Experience has shown me, as it has no doubt also shown to most of my
followers that it is most useful in diseases of any magnitude (not
excepting even the most acute, and still more so the half-acute, in the
tedious and most tedious) to give to the patient the powerful homeopathic
pellet or pellets only in solution, and this solution in DIVIDED DOSES."
In the method of the divided or split dose 1, or very rarely 2 tiny
poppy seed size pills, are place in a minimum of around 8 tablespoons of
water (4oz - `120 ml) and this solution is then given in divided doses. In
this way "1 dose" i.e., 1 pellet is dissolved in water and given in divided
portions over a longer period of time. This article suggests the use of
brandy as a preservative and introduces the idea of succussing the remedy
to raised the potency slightly before each dose. Hahnemann did not mention
the use of an extra dilution glass in this article but the Paris casebooks
of the period show him using a bottle and a glass in a similar manner as
the 6th Organon.
The idea of the original triple split dose found in the 1828 edition of
the chronic disease was taken up by some homeopaths in England but they did
not understand the original technique nor the purpose for introducing it.
They decided they would use term "the split-dose" found in the 1837 version
of the Chronic Diseases but they did NOT use the solution made with 1 or 2
tiny poppy seed size pills. They gave a random number of dry pills of the
30c., then 200c, then the 1M at quick intervals. Then they called this a
so-called split-dose! This method shows little in common with Hahnemann's
original ideas and has lead to a great amount of confusion over the use of
this term. This use of this term, however, should not be confused with the
merits or demerits of the method depending on the time and circumstances.
If some finds a place for the double or triple dry dose method so be it but
it is not a split-dose.
First of all, the idea behind Hahnemann's original postulate was the
use of a medicinal solution so that the number of pills given to the patent
was dramatically reduced and the dose was exposed to more nerves found in
the surface area of the tongue and digestive tract. He reduced the size of
the dose to make the remedy more repeatable over a longer period without
producing aggravations. In line with Kent's idea that the size of the dose
doesn't matter some English homeopaths gave any number of pills in
increasingly higher potencies. This means the patient was taking more dry
pills of the medicine not less. They did not realize that the size of the
dose is directly related to the production of aggravations and accessory
symptoms. This method has nothing to do with the original idea behind the
liquid "split-dose" and can only be called a multi-dose method in which
many dry pills are used. They missed the major point of Hahnemann's divided
liquid dose completely.
Today there is quite a bit of confusion over the matter. In line with
Hahnemann original terminology the triple dry dose method should not be
called a split-dose. A true split or divided dose can only be applied when
the medicinal solutions is used as a delivery system. This method was
applied to the LM potency around the 1838, shortly after it was made public
in the 1837. Hahnemann continued to use the medicinal solution and
split-dose when necessary for his C and LM potencies until his passing in
1843. Hahnemann did not use the term "divided dose" in the Organon but he
did use this term in its companion volume the Chronic Diseases. Therefore,
the use of the term *spit-dose* to describe the administration of the C and
LM potency in medicinal solution is accurate and in harmony with the
teachings of Samuel Hahnemann.
As Hering said, we should all work to correct the errors of the past
and we have found one. The use of the term split-dose for the triple dry
dose in ascending potencies is a misnomer. Now that the true meaning of
term *split-dose* has come to light based on the editions of the Chronic
Diseases, the 5th and 6th Organon, and the Hahnemann's Paris casebooks; the
term should only be used in its original context.
Similia Mininus
Sincerely, David Little
The first clear rendition of a medicinal solution is found in the
Chronic Diseases in 1828 (Theoretical Part, BJain) In this work Hahnemann
wrote in the footnote to page 217:
"In case where the physician is certain as to the homeopathic specific
to be used, the attenuated dose may also be dissolved in about 4 ounces of
water by stirring it, and one third may be drunk at once, and the second
and third portions on the following days: but it should each time be again
stirred so as to increase the potency and thus to change it. Thereby the
remedy seems to take a deeper hold on the organism and hasten the
restoration in patients who are vigorous and not too sensitive."
In this quote Hahnemann introduces three four factors in posology.
1. The use of a medicinal solution made from the dry pellets.
2, The stirring of the remedy to slightly alter the potency before each dose.
3. Giving this solution in divided portions over a period of days.
4. Using this method ito make the remedy hold longer n those that are
vigorous and not too sensitive.
This is the origin of the idea of given a split-dose over a period of
three days in increasing potencies. This is the first explanation of what
would evolve into the medicinal solution method found in the 5th and 6th
Organon. At the time of the publication of the 5th Organon in 1833
Hahnemann was either giving the remedy in a spoon with a bit of water or
using 1 one 2 pills glass of water administered by spoonfuls. The use of a
glass was fine over a short period but he made up these water doses each
time they were need if the remedy was too be used over a longer period of
time. He was not completely satisfied this delivery system. Therefore he
began a new set of experiences which reach their acme around 1837. The
origin of the term "split-dose" is found in the Paris preface to the 1837
edition of The Chronic Diseases. Hahnemann wrote:
"Experience has shown me, as it has no doubt also shown to most of my
followers that it is most useful in diseases of any magnitude (not
excepting even the most acute, and still more so the half-acute, in the
tedious and most tedious) to give to the patient the powerful homeopathic
pellet or pellets only in solution, and this solution in DIVIDED DOSES."
In the method of the divided or split dose 1, or very rarely 2 tiny
poppy seed size pills, are place in a minimum of around 8 tablespoons of
water (4oz - `120 ml) and this solution is then given in divided doses. In
this way "1 dose" i.e., 1 pellet is dissolved in water and given in divided
portions over a longer period of time. This article suggests the use of
brandy as a preservative and introduces the idea of succussing the remedy
to raised the potency slightly before each dose. Hahnemann did not mention
the use of an extra dilution glass in this article but the Paris casebooks
of the period show him using a bottle and a glass in a similar manner as
the 6th Organon.
The idea of the original triple split dose found in the 1828 edition of
the chronic disease was taken up by some homeopaths in England but they did
not understand the original technique nor the purpose for introducing it.
They decided they would use term "the split-dose" found in the 1837 version
of the Chronic Diseases but they did NOT use the solution made with 1 or 2
tiny poppy seed size pills. They gave a random number of dry pills of the
30c., then 200c, then the 1M at quick intervals. Then they called this a
so-called split-dose! This method shows little in common with Hahnemann's
original ideas and has lead to a great amount of confusion over the use of
this term. This use of this term, however, should not be confused with the
merits or demerits of the method depending on the time and circumstances.
If some finds a place for the double or triple dry dose method so be it but
it is not a split-dose.
First of all, the idea behind Hahnemann's original postulate was the
use of a medicinal solution so that the number of pills given to the patent
was dramatically reduced and the dose was exposed to more nerves found in
the surface area of the tongue and digestive tract. He reduced the size of
the dose to make the remedy more repeatable over a longer period without
producing aggravations. In line with Kent's idea that the size of the dose
doesn't matter some English homeopaths gave any number of pills in
increasingly higher potencies. This means the patient was taking more dry
pills of the medicine not less. They did not realize that the size of the
dose is directly related to the production of aggravations and accessory
symptoms. This method has nothing to do with the original idea behind the
liquid "split-dose" and can only be called a multi-dose method in which
many dry pills are used. They missed the major point of Hahnemann's divided
liquid dose completely.
Today there is quite a bit of confusion over the matter. In line with
Hahnemann original terminology the triple dry dose method should not be
called a split-dose. A true split or divided dose can only be applied when
the medicinal solutions is used as a delivery system. This method was
applied to the LM potency around the 1838, shortly after it was made public
in the 1837. Hahnemann continued to use the medicinal solution and
split-dose when necessary for his C and LM potencies until his passing in
1843. Hahnemann did not use the term "divided dose" in the Organon but he
did use this term in its companion volume the Chronic Diseases. Therefore,
the use of the term *spit-dose* to describe the administration of the C and
LM potency in medicinal solution is accurate and in harmony with the
teachings of Samuel Hahnemann.
As Hering said, we should all work to correct the errors of the past
and we have found one. The use of the term split-dose for the triple dry
dose in ascending potencies is a misnomer. Now that the true meaning of
term *split-dose* has come to light based on the editions of the Chronic
Diseases, the 5th and 6th Organon, and the Hahnemann's Paris casebooks; the
term should only be used in its original context.
Similia Mininus
Sincerely, David Little
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Re: Split/Schmlit Dose - Semantics, Etc.
Thankyou David for clearing that up!
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