Digitalis

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Farbod

Significantly Dig is not listed "MIND - WEEPING - telling - sickness; when
telling of her"

This would have eliminated it from repertorisation.

I recommend that you report this to Dr Schroyens via An.Aerts@archibel.com

Then if a few other people have reported the same response it will be listed
under the remedy.
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You may find the Allopathic story of Digitalis of interest.

A doctor was travelling and stopped at an Inn. The Inn-keeper on finding
out that he was a doctor asked him to look on his wife who had been ill for
some time.

She had swollen legs and bed bound and he did not rate her chances!

A few days later on his return journey he stopped at the same inn to see
what had happened and found the woman serving in the inn. So he asked what
she had done and she said a visiting gipsy woman had made her a brew from
digitalis!

On returning to London he tried this medicine on a number poor people and
KILLED them until he worked out what the dosage should be.
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Regards
Soroush

[Rosemary Hyde]

This brings up a fascinating issue, actually. It has happened to me a
number of times, too -- the remedy that turned out to be curative had been
eliminated from repertorization by just such an occurrence, a symptom where
it did not seem to occur in my repertorization. From this I've learned that
the elimination method of repertorization is not necessarily the best way to
find the right remedy, although sometimes it is very helpful.

Actually, I've often found the right remedy in cases where no clear remedy
emerges from my initial repertorization by crossing only two relatively
peculiar symptoms; then I've been able to confirm the relative accuracy of
the resulting two or three choices by going backwards from MM description to
repertory to construct what the right repertorization would have been. The
problem usually is that I chose a phrasing of the symptom in which the
particular remedy did not occur, although a synonymous or analogous phrasing
would have given me the remedy.

For example, a "comparative extraction" in Radar of "Mind-Weeping" produced
the following rubrics where Digitalis occurs:

MIND - WEEPING
MIND - WEEPING - afternoon
MIND - WEEPING - amel.
MIND - WEEPING - anxiety, after
MIND - WEEPING - disappointments, about
MIND - WEEPING - music, from

The first two rubrics were intensity 2, and the rest were intensity 1.

Is this close enough to consider that Digitalis does "repertorize"
adequately under "weeping?"

What wise light can others shed on this issue? How do others deal with the
frequent occurrence of this type of situation? Or am I just still too
inexperienced to always know what the exactly right language should be? If
so, can I expect at some point to be able always to put down the exact
rubric that brings up the correct remedy?

Rosemary

[Rochelle]

I was looking up the frothy saliva with tachycardia and fast pulse rate, waking with palpitations and constant nausea for my SVT patient again and Digitalis looked good. It was black type in the reps for tachycardia but when I went to Clarke and other MM all I could find was references to SLOW pulse rate which seemed to be a keynote. Can anyone explain this. Now I do know about polarities but I would expect to see them in the MM.
Thanks
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Gaby Rottler]

Hi Rochelle,

Quick answer (Allen's Encyc):
* Pulse slow during the first forty-eight hours; but afterwards quicker
and proportionately weaker, [a33].
(This symptom (the most frequent and important of Digitalis), that
after the primary slowness (primary action), the reaction of the
organism after some days makes the pulse lastingly more rapid and
smaller, shows how much the physicians of the old school err when they
endeavor to make the pulse permanently slow by Digitalis, and thus
frequently kill their patients.-HAHNEMANN.)

Best,

Gaby

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[Michael]

--- rochelle wrote:
Hi, Rochelle, and others,

Some time ago hannemanian2002 recommended a book by an
Indian homeopath Koppikar. There is such a text there
about Digitalis: "People having weakness,dizziness on
sitting up or jaundice etc of Digitalis have been
wonderfully cured by Digitalis high, 30 or 200 when
the pulse was slow, and by 3x or 3 or even 6th when
the pulse rate was fast."
There are many interesting things in the book, but
some classical homeopaths would throw this book away
after reading 2-3 pages.

Best regards, Michael
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[Rochelle]

Thanks Gaby. I'm pleased I didn't give it to my patient as she has a fast
and strong pulse rate - not weak!!
Thanks also for the info on Ferritine.

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Rochelle]

Thanks - do we know if the pulse was fast and weak rather than fast and
strong?

Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[muthu kumar]

Digitalis is where the pulse is slow and weak and thread like;
that is the main homeopathic indication.

There may be jaundice, loss of appetite, visual changes...

Digitalis also has irregular pulse...

In lower potencies ( so with some physiological action) can be given
for fast pulse rate...esp.with fibrillation etc.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "rochelle" wrote:

[Sarvadaman Oberoi]

Rochelle wrote June 07, 2007 2:53 AM
Thanks - do we know if the pulse was fast and weak rather than fast and
strong?
Dear Rochelle,

Pulse weak and fast (irregular, intermittent) shows up in the MMs. See extracts.

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EXTRACTS

Homoeopathic Recorder, The (_Hom_Rec) 1943 June Vol LVIII No 9

Selected aphorisms of hippocrates (Boenninghausen)

WITH COMMENTS BY DR. VON BOENNINGHAUSEN Translated by S.W. S. Continued from the May, 1943, issue.

APHORISM 51.

COMMENT:

Lachesis presents the weak but fast pulse.
BURT W. H., Physiological Materia Medica (btw2)

Chloralum hydratum

Respiratory organs

- In heart disease, with great dyspnoea and sense of suffocation, oppression of the base of the chest, tendency to faint, great sinking at the pit of the stomach, livid lips, excessively slow respiration, pulse weak and fast, and cold extremities, Chloral has acted finely.
CHOUDHURI N. M., A study on Materia Medica (cda1)

Crataegus oxyacantha

In those desperate cases of heart affections, such as valvular deficiencies or hypertrophy, where dyspnoea and dropsy have supervened, and the pulse is gradually growing weak and rapid, where physicians have lost heart, and the patient himself is gradually getting resigned to the inevitable end fast approaching, we can think of no better remedy than Crataegus.
Mercurius cyanatus

The pulse becomes excessively weak and fast.
CLARKE J. H., Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica (c1)

Coca

Characteristics

- There was marked diminution of smell; great difficulty in producing vomiting; a scarlatina-like rash over the body, especially about the neck; dimness of vision; relaxation of sphincters and weakness of extremities; the mind remained clear, but the pulse was fast, weak and intermittent.
GILCHRIST J.G. , The Homeopathic Treatment of Surgical Diseases (gcj1)

Surgical diseases of nerves

Wounds of nerves

Rhus toxicodendron

Restlessness which does not permit one to be quiet, and compels him to toss about in bed; swelling of the eyelids; aversion to light; face pale and sunken, with blue rings around the eyes, and pointed nose; stiffness in the articulations of the jaws; thirst; inflammatory swellings; pulse irregular, generally faster, but weak.
Staphisagria

pulse very fast, but small and trembling.
GRANDGEORGE D., The Spirit of Homropathic Medicines (ggd1)

Veratrum album

The lie

This is a remedy known for its intense acute states which give the impression of cardiovascular shock: pale skin, cold sweat, pulse weak and fast.
GRIMMER A. H., The Collected Works (gm1)

Therapeutics

Homeopathy in heart disease

A case of terminal pneumonia complicated with acute nephritis and a failing dilated heart muscle was cured by Dr. Kent on the symptom complex of a weak fast pulse with a subnormal temperature with the remedy Pyrog. in the 10M potency; the patient, a Dr. Austin * of New York, completely recovered, lived and practiced, a devoted homeopathic physician for over twenty years after what seemed to be a certain fatal illness. Few mortals rise from the portals of the grave to emerge into the sunlight and bloom of health with the great privilege of attaining a useful life devoted to the happy task of healing. Dr. Austin carried on, a devoted champion of Homeopathy, until extreme old age closed the curtains on his labors. Many cases of serious illness, hundreds in fact, with a separation of pulse and temperature as the chief index in their case has found the curative remedy in Pyrog.
HERING C., Guiding Symptoms of our Materia Medica (hr1)

Mercurius cyanatus

pulse excessively weak and so fast that it cannot be counted;
International Hahnemannian Association (Int_Hahn_Ass) 1902

A few cases of personal experience in obstetrics (A. Donald)

At 9 A. M. temperature 107 1/5, pulse so fast and weak that I could not count it, with a cold sweat on body and partial delirium….. Carbo veg. 6x half-hourly;…. Called in three hours and found a drop of one degree in the temperature to 106 1/5, pulse 170, skin a little moist and warm. Changed back my remedy to Verat. alb. every half hour. At 6 P. M. temperature had gradually dropped to 104 3/5, pulse 118.
KENT J. T., Lectures on Homeopathic Materia Medica (k2)

Alumina phosphorica

- It has fast, weak, irregular pulse.
Arsenicum sulphuratum flavum

- The pulse is fast, irregular, intermittent, small, weak.
Aurum arsenicum

- The pulse is fast, irregular, small, weak.
Aurum muriaticum

- Pulse small, weak and fast.
Aurum sulphuratum

- Pulsation in internal parts; the pulse in small, FAST, irregular and weak.
Zincum phosphoricum

- Pulse: FAST; intermittent; irregular; small; weak.

[Rochelle]

Thanks all those who replied. Fast and weak is not for my patient as her pulse is fast and strong.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk