Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

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Editor-in-Chief; Homoeopathic Medical Panorama
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Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by Editor-in-Chief; Homoeopathic Medical Panorama »

Dear Rafi,
About inimicals; You should be rather care full than giving the 'seemingly'
indicated remedy right away. Because some times serious damage can occur. As
explained below.
Consider diseases like a deficiency and homoeopathic treatment like
supplementation. When disease occurs two process takes place. The body
suffers from the deficiency and at the same time through a set of symptoms
and signs it asks for the supplement to those who can listen (for e.g. here
a homoeopathic physician). These two process may not necessarily have same
implications. For e.g. in a case of cancer the disease slowly work its way
in destroying the body due to some deficiency in the ultra minute
"sole-psyche" system of life. The vital force which is actually a bit
superficial -to us- than this 'system' asks for the supplement -the remedy-.
When we supply the remedy apparently the vital force is satisfied and we get
a palliation but the disease advances till termination because the actual
deficiency remains. This is because some diseases are pre destined to
destroy the organism for reasons not yet known (like many malignancies
advanced tuberculosis and the like).
Now Inimicals are interestingly very similar remedies (take Apis and Rhus)
with each other and a similar condition -as of the above example of cancer-
occurs when you administer them instead of 'the similimum'. The vital force
apparently thinks the deficiency over but the disease remains. This wont
cause much trouble except a delayed cure of the illness as after a period of
time the vital force again perceives the deficiency and asks for the
supplement again, because the remedy being only similar -not the similimum-
it can never fully satisfy the deficiency and as each remedy has its time of
getting exhausted in the system it exposes the deficiency again. This
not-much-harm-done theory is true as far as truly dynamic diseases of higher
planes -more away from the physical organism- are considered. But in case
of organic diseases especially of advanced pathologies like pneumonias or
even acute appendicitis this can be deleterious.
Now come back to the first instance -of cancer- and see why it is being told
that in cases like cancer or advanced pathologies do not -even- give the
indicated remedy (the similimum) first but to give a superficial palliative
remedy and after the organism getting down a few steps on the ladder you try
with the (then) indicated remedy -similimum-. Here the similimum may act
just like an inimical. (Incidentally this is one justification for the
homoeopath knowing all the allied medical areas also, other wise he will
become a faithful blind!)
So it is always better to try a superficial palliative remedy or an
antipsoric in high dose but very minute quantity before you administer the
inimical drug.
Best regards,
Dr. Abdul Gafar, BHMS, DNHE.
Editor-in-Chief,
"Homoeopathic Medical Panorama"
International Quarterly published from India.
www.homedpa.com


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Dr. Gafar,

Thankyou for this explanation, but I am confused about the term "inimical".
I understood it to mean, a remedy that will produce bad reaction *if given
directly after* a certain remedy. E.g. causticum and phos are said to
(sometimes? often?) produce disruption if given next to each other. It
sounds as tho you are using the word differently?

Thankyou,
Shannon

on 11/22/04 8:27 PM, Editor-in-Chief; Homoeopathic Medical Panorama at
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Robyn
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by Robyn »

Dear Shannon,

The best example of "inimical" can be seen with
Apis mel. and Rhus tox. they cant be used neither together nor one after.
Thanx
Dr. Syed Rafatullah
***I am not trying to be controversial, however, I prescribed Rhus tox for a
'duck' that was dying from tick poisoning. After they gave the duck Rhus t,
they then told me they had also put apis in the water with the Rhus, as the
throat of the duck had collapsed from paralysis.

It had been quite awhile after the dosing that I was informed. About 24hrs.

I asked them to remove the Apis from the water, which they did, and the duck
survived and has since produced some beautiful ducklings!

This makes me wonder how 'inimical' is 'inimical'?
Best to you

Robyn
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Thankyou Dr. Rafatullah,

That is the meaning of the word as I have learned it. But this passage
(below) seems to use the word differently, as being something different from
the simillimum and not a "superficial palliative", but something else? I'm
confused about what is meant.

Thankyou,
Shannon
on 11/23/04 12:26 AM, Dr. Syed Rafatullah at Srafat@ksu.edu.sa wrote:

Dear Shannon,

The best example of "inimical" can be seen with
Apis mel. and Rhus tox. they cant be used neither together nor one after.
Thanx
Dr. Syed Rafatullah


Dale Moss
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by Dale Moss »

I'm not sure these are iron-clad rules. As always, it depends on the
situation. Years ago, when my son developed huge bullae on his toes after
mistakenly downing an entire vial of Apis to cope with a hornet sting, it
was Rhus-tox. that cured him, resolving both the blisters and the original
injury.

Peace,
Cinnabar


almonds1
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by almonds1 »

Does anyone know of a list of contra-indicated and/or inimical
remedies aside from Boericke's Tables?
George U.
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J Lucas
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by J Lucas »

There is a compilation in Kent's rep and P. Sankaran compiled a list in a
small booklet in the 1970's "The Clinical Relationship of Homeopathic
remedies" but every materia medica cites the remedy relationships.

Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com


Editor-in-Chief; Homoeopathic Medical Panorama
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by Editor-in-Chief; Homoeopathic Medical Panorama »

Dear Shannon,
Inimicals generally are as I said the most similar remedies, like Apis and
Rhus. If you are not careful enough there are chances you use one instead of
another. Also after one another. I have some instances where I got tempted
to give Apis after Rhus and vice versa. (Merc and Sil too). What you said is
true that they produce bad results -sometimes very bad- if given one after
the other. What I pointed out was 'how' they cause the bad result. And
strangely enough this is because they are most similar to each other. I
think it wont be difficult for you to understand the point if you read my
last mail once again keeping in mind the 'pathophysiology of dynamic
diseases' (the homoeopathic explanation of how diseases in general occurs).
Still if you feel it indigestible please feel free to tell me and I will
explain further.

So both are true (and same) my context and yours about inimicals. Its coined
by masters before us, not by us. But the only difference is that my
'explanation' comes out of my own theory about the action of homoeopathic
remedies. As far as there is no clear cut theory about how/why exactly these
acts every one is welcomed with any plausible explanations. I think I have
come up with some what of a fool proof theory. I am working over it for
sometime now and need a little more verification to do before letting it out
into public.

Also note that in some instances where you find it absolutely necessary to
give the inimical one you administer it after a superficial palliative one
or an antipsoric where by the case is slightly changed in its new totality
and the inimicality (the earlier similarity) is also changed!

As said by yourselves over one dose issue with soroush, it is not a taboo to
experiment. What HE said is 'Aude Sapere'. So in my opinion as long as we
keep the basics "Simple, Similie, Minimum" we can do some trapezes even
without the nets.

Regards,
Dr. Abdul Gafar.

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andyh
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

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almonds1@aol.com wrote:
All the rx in referenceworks F with known inimicals--sorry know this is not a table

Inimical: acet-ac., aeth., 3Am-c.8, 2apis47, arg-n.15, ars.2019, asar.1020, bac.62, bell.46, bor.8, bry.58, calc.85, camph., canth.8, carb-an.47, carb-v.47, caust.8, chin.8, coff.8, coll., con.56, cupr., dig.47, dros., echi., fl-ac., hep.85, ign.8, iod., ip.1101, kreos.36, lach.91, lepro., mand.119, med., merc.15, merc-cy., mur-ac.15, nat-m.15, nat-s., nit-ac.8, nux-m., 2nux-v.22, op.15, per.85, ph-ac.233, phos.8, phyt.223, plat., psor.22, ran-b.8, 2rhus-t.22, sant.171, sel.47, sep.22, sil.223, sol171, staph.36, stram., sulph.161, syph., thuj., tub., visc., 3Zinc.22

Dewey on types of rx relations

Q. What relation do drugs bear to each other?
Antidotal, concordant, complementary, inimical and family.

Q. What is an antidote?
It is substance which modifies or opposes the effects of a remedy.

Q. What are concordant remedies?
Drugs whose actions are similar, but of dissimilar origin, are said to be concordant, and they follow each other well.

Q. Give examples of concordant remedies.
China and Calcarea. Pulsatilla and Sepia. Nitric acid and Thuja. Belladonna and Mercurius.

Q. What are inimical remedies?
Drugs which have a relation of enmity towards each other and therefore do not follow each other well.

Q. Give three examples of inimical relation.
Apis and Rhus. Phosphorus and Causticum. Silicea and Mercurius.

Q. What is meant by family relation?
The relation existing between drugs whose origin is similar.

Q. Give examples of family relation.
The Halogens: Bromine, Chlorine and Iodine. Lachesis and Crotalus. Ignatia and Nux vomica. The Ranunculaceae family.

Q. Give examples of antidotal relation.
Nux vomica and Coffea. Belladonna and Opium. Bryonia and Rhus. Hepar and Mercurius.

Q. What is meant by complementary relation?
A relation wherein one drug completes the cure which was commenced by another drug.

Q. give examples of complementary relations.
Belladonna and Calcarea. Sulphur and Nux vomica. Apis and Natrum muriaticum.

Q. What is meant by the differentiation of remedies?
It is the pointing out of differences in the action of related remedies.

Q. What is meant by alternation of remedies?
The administration of two or more remedies successively, first one then the other, which appear to correspond with the morbid state.

Q. Give five reason why the alternation of remedies is a reprehensible practice?
1. The totality of the symptoms which should form the basis of every homeopathic prescription cannot be found under more than one remedy at a time.
2. It leads to polypharmacy, a slovenly mode of practice, and does not advance accurate and definite knowledge of drug action.
3. Prescribing a second remedy before the action of the first is exhausted will interfere with its action. By such mismanagement remedies seem to lose their power.
4. Remedies which antidote each other or hold inimical relation to each other may be alternated.
5. Statistics prove that diseases treated with the single remedy recover more rapidly.

Q. What is meant by the elective affinity of drugs? Give examples.
It is the affinity that certain drugs have for certain parts or organs of the body. Podophyllum is especially a liver remedy. Cantharis elects the urinary organs for its action, Strychnia, the spinal cord, Tellurium, the tympanum, Ergot, the uterus, etc. A more modern term that is sometimes used is tissue proclivity and it is probably more exact.


Dr. Syed Rafatullah
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Re: Digest Number 1810-Inimicals

Post by Dr. Syed Rafatullah »

Dear Shannon,

The best example of "inimical" can be seen with
Apis mel. and Rhus tox. they cant be used neither together nor one after.
Thanx
Dr. Syed Rafatullah


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