Dear Nader and colleagues
Please study the text below - do you think Aspartame is causing a new miasm?
If it is genetically altering us, is that a possibility?
Rgds
Soroush
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Dear Dr Betty,
Excellent article! You mentioned a woman who delivered ADHD, and Autistic
babies, after years of consuming Aspartame. She did not however, consume
any Aspartame during pregnancy. The MtDNa damage from Aspartame is
pervasive, it remains within all the body's cells, forever after, leaving
the Aspartame victim forever impaired. This persistence of the damaged
MtDNA includes the MtDNA in the ovaries, which then transmits a whole huge
epidemic of Mt DNA diseases to the embryo, including the immense present
epidemic of "Pervasive Developmental Disorders" like Autism and ADHD, as
well as the rest of the present immense epidemic of congenital MtDNA
diseases, which has arisen with the consumption of Aspartame!
The sales of hair dyes "Just For Men" is a ready index of the MtDNA damage
from Aspartame. Low Calory Kool Aid completely grayed me in just six weeks
when it first came out in April of 1983! My dark brown hair then looked
like it had been gray hair died dark brown, and now the gray roots were
showing! There was not a single hair dye for men available when I, as one
of the earliest "Aspervictims," went looking for some hair dye to use for
my newly "Aspercreated" graying. Now there are many brands "Just For Men,"
occupying lots of space on store shelves, indicating very brisk sales due
to a very large "Asperepidemic" of prematurely grayed males!
All future generations of Americans are persistently, and hereverafter
damaged by Rummsfeld, Reagan and their ilk in American political circles,
who have caused this heinous poison to be consumed and have protected it,
and kept it on the market, even heinously persecuting to the utmost we who
tried to alert the public. My upcoming book: "In The Present Darkness: It
happened to We Scientists Who First Spoke Out Against Aspartame" will
educate all who may choose to read it with the details of our forever
imperiled experiences with the "Present Darkness." The "Asperdamaged"
MtDNa is forever passed on from generation to generation, leaving all
future generations of Americans imperiled!
Sincerely, Dr Jim Bowen
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Aspartame Miasm ??
Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
> But what about generations down the line, when they too are being born with
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Nader Moradi
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Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
Dear Soroush,
As Chris said Aspartame can not be a miasm.
Chronic miasms are dynamic,this means that they mistune VF in a way that
even after removing the cause,their effects progress and if not treated
they pass from one generation to the next one and vitality of next
generation will be worse then previous one, but in degenerative disease
caused by non miasmatic agent although they may pass from one generation to
the next but their effects do not progress if we stop their cause and in
your example if you stop taking aspartame then its effect will stop from
progression.
you can find this from studying the effects of bombardment of Hiroshima!.
Rgds,
Nader
As Chris said Aspartame can not be a miasm.
Chronic miasms are dynamic,this means that they mistune VF in a way that
even after removing the cause,their effects progress and if not treated
they pass from one generation to the next one and vitality of next
generation will be worse then previous one, but in degenerative disease
caused by non miasmatic agent although they may pass from one generation to
the next but their effects do not progress if we stop their cause and in
your example if you stop taking aspartame then its effect will stop from
progression.
you can find this from studying the effects of bombardment of Hiroshima!.
Rgds,
Nader
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Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
I know this is a side-issue and I should do my own homework (google before
asking), but can anyone give me a short explanation about what the effects
of the changed mitochondrial DNA are? (I understand about it coming thru
the mother's lineage, and that mitochondria are the cell's "power plants",
but that's about as far as my understanding goes.) What are the effects
that are passed thru the genes and "never" thrown off?
Thanks,
Shannon
on 11/22/04 4:39 AM, J Lucas at j.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:
asking), but can anyone give me a short explanation about what the effects
of the changed mitochondrial DNA are? (I understand about it coming thru
the mother's lineage, and that mitochondria are the cell's "power plants",
but that's about as far as my understanding goes.) What are the effects
that are passed thru the genes and "never" thrown off?
Thanks,
Shannon
on 11/22/04 4:39 AM, J Lucas at j.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:
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Nader Moradi
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Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
to
Hiroshima!.
Andy wrote:
angle. __________? Are you implying that genetic self-repair was
demonstrated in the ensuing 3 generations.... Please point to the evidence
if that is correct. If this has indeed occurred, it is indeed a good
representation of the point that morbific influences of primarily a material
or ionic nature only; and nonliving--can produce damage to a biological
entity which may be at least to some extent repairable. And that such
damage may be to some extent self-limited because its effects on the genome
are
component of the gametes. If true, then such evidence of repair by living
systems of even destruction of integrity of sperm and egg shows that
physical poison is not as lethal and insidious as nonphysical, living
"poison". In the case of miasm, the deposit of a living energetic
component which through unfinished and incompetent immune response remains
in the life force and is passed on through gametes---damage is not only
manifest but propagated permanently, and is only amenable to removal by
meeting the
reproduce without passing it on. Nader, please elucidate and enhance.))))
Dear Andy,
With help of Soroush, I could find this:
""" 376. The results of studies of minisatellite mutations in the
children of those exposed in areas contaminated by the Chernobyl accident
and in the children of those exposed to the atomic bombings in Japan are not
consistent: in children from Chernobyl areas, the mutation frequencies were
increased, while in the Japanese children, there were no such increases. It
should be noted that the control children for the Chernobyl study were from
the United Kingdom.
377. The search for genetic effects associated with Chernobyl exposures in
Belarus or Ukraine, which had the highest contamination, and in a number of
European countries provide no unambiguous evidence for an increase in the
frequencies of one or more of the following: Down's syndrome, congenital
anomalies, miscarriages, perinatal mortality, etc."""
then when such radiations can not induce profound effect on next generation,
then how they can be assumed as miasm?
Rgds,
Nader
Hiroshima!.
Andy wrote:
angle. __________? Are you implying that genetic self-repair was
demonstrated in the ensuing 3 generations.... Please point to the evidence
if that is correct. If this has indeed occurred, it is indeed a good
representation of the point that morbific influences of primarily a material
or ionic nature only; and nonliving--can produce damage to a biological
entity which may be at least to some extent repairable. And that such
damage may be to some extent self-limited because its effects on the genome
are
component of the gametes. If true, then such evidence of repair by living
systems of even destruction of integrity of sperm and egg shows that
physical poison is not as lethal and insidious as nonphysical, living
"poison". In the case of miasm, the deposit of a living energetic
component which through unfinished and incompetent immune response remains
in the life force and is passed on through gametes---damage is not only
manifest but propagated permanently, and is only amenable to removal by
meeting the
reproduce without passing it on. Nader, please elucidate and enhance.))))
Dear Andy,
With help of Soroush, I could find this:
""" 376. The results of studies of minisatellite mutations in the
children of those exposed in areas contaminated by the Chernobyl accident
and in the children of those exposed to the atomic bombings in Japan are not
consistent: in children from Chernobyl areas, the mutation frequencies were
increased, while in the Japanese children, there were no such increases. It
should be noted that the control children for the Chernobyl study were from
the United Kingdom.
377. The search for genetic effects associated with Chernobyl exposures in
Belarus or Ukraine, which had the highest contamination, and in a number of
European countries provide no unambiguous evidence for an increase in the
frequencies of one or more of the following: Down's syndrome, congenital
anomalies, miscarriages, perinatal mortality, etc."""
then when such radiations can not induce profound effect on next generation,
then how they can be assumed as miasm?
Rgds,
Nader
Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
Nader Moradi wrote:
*********Dear Nader,
Well it is interesting that the Japan and Chernobyl mutagenesis is different. This may be not all that surprising for several reasons:
========
REACTOR VS BOMB
--- Chernobyl was a commercial reactor, not a bomb-- which may have produced a different suite of radionuclide species, in particular if Iodine 131 was more prevalent from Chernobyl, which is insidious in its uptake by children and effects on thyroid and destruction of metabolism. But this bears study. The hiroshima and nagasaki bombs were two different types of bombs one uranium, and one plutonium:
Little Boy and Fat Man
While Little Boy was a uranium gun-type device 13 kilotons, Fat Man was a more complicated and
powerful plutonium implosion weapon that exploded with a force equal to 20 kilotons of TNT.
Hiroshima
Little Boy was the first
nuclear weapon used in
warfare. It exploded
approximately 1,800 feet over
Hiroshima, Japan, on the
morning of August 6, 1945,
with a force equal to 13,000
tons of TNT. Immediate
deaths were between 70,000
to 130,000.
Approx. 1.38% of the uranium fuel actually fissioned
Nagasaki
Fat Man was the second nuclear weapon used in warfare. Dropped on Nagasaki, Japan, on
August 9, 1945, Fat Man devastated more than two square miles of the city and caused
approximately 45,000 immediate deaths.
========
DIFFERENT STUDY EFFICACY AFTER THE INCIDENTS
--- The study of the immediate effects in Japan were in the late 1940's --- at a time when knowledge of radiologic effects were in infancy, (to be honest, virtually NOTHING was known about the true effects of radiation except lethal dose)--- whereas the study of chernobyl post '86, much more was known for immediate application. So the comparison cited above has some "apples and oranges" flavor.
==========
UNIQUE DIET HIGH IN IODINE IN JAPAN
--Japanese society has a different diet than most of the world--high on iodine carrying sea vegetables (nori, etc) and other sea products. Iodine intake protects the thyroid from Iodine 131 and thus more of at least that nuclide is excreted and cannot reside in the body to destroy delicate endocrine control functions.
Other isotopes like Cesium 137 and Strontium 90 may or may not be in common between the reactor accident and the very early bombs ---perhaps others can comment.
So this comparison is inconclusive. But it is somewhat encouraging that the Japanese rate of mutations seems lower--BUT THIS WELL COULD BE BECAUSE OF A DIET RICH IN IODINE rather than evidence of self-repair. Fermented soybean products (especially MISO) is also a radionuclide cleanser, as demonstrated in a hospital in Nagasaki, and this is also in the Japanese diet. These are just guesses, though.
==========================================
MORE INSIDIOUS is depleted uranium artillery debris (for example all over Iraq and in the water, soil, and food--, and which will impact the Iraqui genome to some large extent). I hope the non-human perpetrators do not next attempt to attack Iran.
=======================================
(Aside) -- IMO the standards for exposure to low level radiation are still ridiculously high, and mammograms and medical x-rays are IMO one of the principal causes of cancer in the world. Of note is the Petkau effect which shows the nonlinearity of radiation effects:
PETKAU effect
The Petkau effect is an early counterexample to linear-effect assumptions usually made about radiation exposure. It was found by Dr. Abram Petkau at the Atomic
Energy of Canada Whiteshell Nuclear Research Establishment, Manitoba and published in Health Physics March 1972.
Petkau had been measuring, in the usual way, the dose that would rupture a particular cell membrane. He found that 3500 rads delivered in 2? hours (26 rad/min)
would do it. Then, almost by chance, he tried again with much weaker radiation and found that 0.7 rads delivered in 11? hours (1 millirad/min) would also destroy
the membrane. This was counter to the prevailing assumption of a linear relationship between total dose or dose rate and the consequences.
The radiation was of ionising nature, and produced negative oxygen ions. Those ions were more damaging to the membrane in lower concentrations than higher (a
somewhat counterintuitive result in itself) because in the latter, they more readily recombine with each other instead of interfering with the membrane. The ion
concentration directly correlated with the radiation dose rate and the composition had nonmonotonic consequences.
====================
Nader wrote:
then when such radiations can not induce profound effect on next generation,
then how they can be assumed as miasm?
**** I dont know if there is enough evidence here to conclude that the effects are not profound--they depend on exposure level , whether particles ingested, the diet and use of protective iodine immediately after exposure; and as in everything--the susceptibility of the individual. Of great interest would be to see definite evidence for self-repair over several generations.
As to whether radionuclear exposures are "miasm":
---Radiation exposure is momentary and does its damage but does not continue to do damage
---intake of radioactive particles through food, water, or air is a whole different story. It settles in the thyroid (iodine 131), bones (strontium 90) and elswhere until it can be excreted, if it can be. If it is incorporated into bone it may not be. If the supply of primordial eggs is mutated, or sperm are damaged, then the effect is propagated---through actual material genetic damage.
We of course make the distinction between nonphysical noxious LIVING FORCE which defines a miasm in Hahnemannian terms, and which is nonelectromagnetic and higher order (it has been called ETHERIC)---AND (in this case-ionizing radioactive decay which makes swiss cheese out of cells)--but which is a 3D nuclear particle emanation in the electromagnetic spectrum and NONLIVING.
I agree, radiation is not an infectious miasm, but a lingering and transmissible effect---we could call it a MATERIAL AND GENETIC result of manmade toxic hazard instead of MIASMATIC.
Best,
Andy
PS--for a Hollywood movie which demonstrates in a small way the history and folly of use of nuclear energy--see "K-19 the Widowmaker" about a Soviet nuclear submarine accident around 1959. Also note that there was a large nuclear reactor accident in the Soviet union in 1958 which created a large uninhabitable area--but which was kept secret until the late 1970's.
*********Dear Nader,
Well it is interesting that the Japan and Chernobyl mutagenesis is different. This may be not all that surprising for several reasons:
========
REACTOR VS BOMB
--- Chernobyl was a commercial reactor, not a bomb-- which may have produced a different suite of radionuclide species, in particular if Iodine 131 was more prevalent from Chernobyl, which is insidious in its uptake by children and effects on thyroid and destruction of metabolism. But this bears study. The hiroshima and nagasaki bombs were two different types of bombs one uranium, and one plutonium:
Little Boy and Fat Man
While Little Boy was a uranium gun-type device 13 kilotons, Fat Man was a more complicated and
powerful plutonium implosion weapon that exploded with a force equal to 20 kilotons of TNT.
Hiroshima
Little Boy was the first
nuclear weapon used in
warfare. It exploded
approximately 1,800 feet over
Hiroshima, Japan, on the
morning of August 6, 1945,
with a force equal to 13,000
tons of TNT. Immediate
deaths were between 70,000
to 130,000.
Approx. 1.38% of the uranium fuel actually fissioned
Nagasaki
Fat Man was the second nuclear weapon used in warfare. Dropped on Nagasaki, Japan, on
August 9, 1945, Fat Man devastated more than two square miles of the city and caused
approximately 45,000 immediate deaths.
========
DIFFERENT STUDY EFFICACY AFTER THE INCIDENTS
--- The study of the immediate effects in Japan were in the late 1940's --- at a time when knowledge of radiologic effects were in infancy, (to be honest, virtually NOTHING was known about the true effects of radiation except lethal dose)--- whereas the study of chernobyl post '86, much more was known for immediate application. So the comparison cited above has some "apples and oranges" flavor.
==========
UNIQUE DIET HIGH IN IODINE IN JAPAN
--Japanese society has a different diet than most of the world--high on iodine carrying sea vegetables (nori, etc) and other sea products. Iodine intake protects the thyroid from Iodine 131 and thus more of at least that nuclide is excreted and cannot reside in the body to destroy delicate endocrine control functions.
Other isotopes like Cesium 137 and Strontium 90 may or may not be in common between the reactor accident and the very early bombs ---perhaps others can comment.
So this comparison is inconclusive. But it is somewhat encouraging that the Japanese rate of mutations seems lower--BUT THIS WELL COULD BE BECAUSE OF A DIET RICH IN IODINE rather than evidence of self-repair. Fermented soybean products (especially MISO) is also a radionuclide cleanser, as demonstrated in a hospital in Nagasaki, and this is also in the Japanese diet. These are just guesses, though.
==========================================
MORE INSIDIOUS is depleted uranium artillery debris (for example all over Iraq and in the water, soil, and food--, and which will impact the Iraqui genome to some large extent). I hope the non-human perpetrators do not next attempt to attack Iran.
=======================================
(Aside) -- IMO the standards for exposure to low level radiation are still ridiculously high, and mammograms and medical x-rays are IMO one of the principal causes of cancer in the world. Of note is the Petkau effect which shows the nonlinearity of radiation effects:
PETKAU effect
The Petkau effect is an early counterexample to linear-effect assumptions usually made about radiation exposure. It was found by Dr. Abram Petkau at the Atomic
Energy of Canada Whiteshell Nuclear Research Establishment, Manitoba and published in Health Physics March 1972.
Petkau had been measuring, in the usual way, the dose that would rupture a particular cell membrane. He found that 3500 rads delivered in 2? hours (26 rad/min)
would do it. Then, almost by chance, he tried again with much weaker radiation and found that 0.7 rads delivered in 11? hours (1 millirad/min) would also destroy
the membrane. This was counter to the prevailing assumption of a linear relationship between total dose or dose rate and the consequences.
The radiation was of ionising nature, and produced negative oxygen ions. Those ions were more damaging to the membrane in lower concentrations than higher (a
somewhat counterintuitive result in itself) because in the latter, they more readily recombine with each other instead of interfering with the membrane. The ion
concentration directly correlated with the radiation dose rate and the composition had nonmonotonic consequences.
====================
Nader wrote:
then when such radiations can not induce profound effect on next generation,
then how they can be assumed as miasm?
**** I dont know if there is enough evidence here to conclude that the effects are not profound--they depend on exposure level , whether particles ingested, the diet and use of protective iodine immediately after exposure; and as in everything--the susceptibility of the individual. Of great interest would be to see definite evidence for self-repair over several generations.
As to whether radionuclear exposures are "miasm":
---Radiation exposure is momentary and does its damage but does not continue to do damage
---intake of radioactive particles through food, water, or air is a whole different story. It settles in the thyroid (iodine 131), bones (strontium 90) and elswhere until it can be excreted, if it can be. If it is incorporated into bone it may not be. If the supply of primordial eggs is mutated, or sperm are damaged, then the effect is propagated---through actual material genetic damage.
We of course make the distinction between nonphysical noxious LIVING FORCE which defines a miasm in Hahnemannian terms, and which is nonelectromagnetic and higher order (it has been called ETHERIC)---AND (in this case-ionizing radioactive decay which makes swiss cheese out of cells)--but which is a 3D nuclear particle emanation in the electromagnetic spectrum and NONLIVING.
I agree, radiation is not an infectious miasm, but a lingering and transmissible effect---we could call it a MATERIAL AND GENETIC result of manmade toxic hazard instead of MIASMATIC.
Best,
Andy
PS--for a Hollywood movie which demonstrates in a small way the history and folly of use of nuclear energy--see "K-19 the Widowmaker" about a Soviet nuclear submarine accident around 1959. Also note that there was a large nuclear reactor accident in the Soviet union in 1958 which created a large uninhabitable area--but which was kept secret until the late 1970's.
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Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
that even after removing the cause,their effects progress and if not
treated
disease
generation
Hi All
I agree with Nader and Chris. Not every imprinted influence is a Miasm.
It will cause a specific weakness in the organism, but this means this is a
predisposition.
This is what Sankaran defined as a 'Root', but this is not the same as a
miasm.
I.e. an emotional predisposition caused by grief is not a miasm.
It is possible when an predisposition is triggered it will be complicated
with an miasm, but they are not one and the same.
Miasm are universal deep predispositions, but not every predisposition is a
miasm.
Kind Regards, Piet
treated
disease
generation
Hi All
I agree with Nader and Chris. Not every imprinted influence is a Miasm.
It will cause a specific weakness in the organism, but this means this is a
predisposition.
This is what Sankaran defined as a 'Root', but this is not the same as a
miasm.
I.e. an emotional predisposition caused by grief is not a miasm.
It is possible when an predisposition is triggered it will be complicated
with an miasm, but they are not one and the same.
Miasm are universal deep predispositions, but not every predisposition is a
miasm.
Kind Regards, Piet
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Nader Moradi
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Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
Dear Andy,
Thanks a lot for information.
I agree with you, too, that radiation and other potent noxious agent can
affect next generation via mutation of genes, and then, IMO, It is better to
call them Radiation,Drug,Sulphur, Medicinal, etc.. "DISEASE" instead of
"MIASM"
Kind Regards,
Nader
generation,
effects are not profound--they depend on exposure level , whether particles
ingested, the diet and use of protective iodine immediately after exposure;
and as in everything--the susceptibility of the individual. Of great
interest would be to see definite evidence for self-repair over several
generations.
continue to do damage
different story. It settles in the thyroid (iodine 131), bones (strontium
90) and elswhere until it can be excreted, if it can be. If it is
incorporated into bone it may not be. If the supply of primordial eggs is
mutated, or sperm are damaged, then the effect is propagated---through
actual material genetic damage.
which defines a miasm in Hahnemannian terms, and which is nonelectromagnetic
and higher order (it has been called ETHERIC)---AND (in this case-ionizing
radioactive decay which makes swiss cheese out of cells)--but which is a 3D
nuclear particle emanation in the electromagnetic spectrum and NONLIVING.
transmissible effect---we could call it a MATERIAL AND GENETIC result of
manmade toxic hazard instead of MIASMATIC.
and folly of use of nuclear energy--see "K-19 the Widowmaker" about a Soviet
nuclear submarine accident around 1959. Also note that there was a large
nuclear reactor accident in the Soviet union in 1958 which created a large
uninhabitable area--but which was kept secret until the late 1970's.
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Thanks a lot for information.
I agree with you, too, that radiation and other potent noxious agent can
affect next generation via mutation of genes, and then, IMO, It is better to
call them Radiation,Drug,Sulphur, Medicinal, etc.. "DISEASE" instead of
"MIASM"
Kind Regards,
Nader
generation,
effects are not profound--they depend on exposure level , whether particles
ingested, the diet and use of protective iodine immediately after exposure;
and as in everything--the susceptibility of the individual. Of great
interest would be to see definite evidence for self-repair over several
generations.
continue to do damage
different story. It settles in the thyroid (iodine 131), bones (strontium
90) and elswhere until it can be excreted, if it can be. If it is
incorporated into bone it may not be. If the supply of primordial eggs is
mutated, or sperm are damaged, then the effect is propagated---through
actual material genetic damage.
which defines a miasm in Hahnemannian terms, and which is nonelectromagnetic
and higher order (it has been called ETHERIC)---AND (in this case-ionizing
radioactive decay which makes swiss cheese out of cells)--but which is a 3D
nuclear particle emanation in the electromagnetic spectrum and NONLIVING.
transmissible effect---we could call it a MATERIAL AND GENETIC result of
manmade toxic hazard instead of MIASMATIC.
and folly of use of nuclear energy--see "K-19 the Widowmaker" about a Soviet
nuclear submarine accident around 1959. Also note that there was a large
nuclear reactor accident in the Soviet union in 1958 which created a large
uninhabitable area--but which was kept secret until the late 1970's.
and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations
regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any
document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this
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of their use remains with the recipient. In no event shall the minutus site
or its individual members be liable for any direct, consequential,
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Re: Aspartame Miasm ??
I am not really following this thread but perhaps the AIDS miasm is the
miasm behind all this stuff?
SK
miasm behind all this stuff?
SK