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Rochelle
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Child who doesn't sleep

Post by Rochelle »

I found it difficult to prescribe for this child today so I present the case I took as I would be interested to see what anyone else would come up with!!
9th July 2004

Background – This 16 month old girl presented initially quiet and shy, as a blond slim child of average height. She didn’t walk unaided but held onto the furniture. She played with toys on her own but quickly got bored and went to something else. She was quite inquisitive, wandering around and pulling out books etc. She did not come to me when I opened my arms out for her initially but at the end of the consultation she let me hold her. She was friendly and brought things over to me. She didn’t seem over clinging with her parents who were both at the consultation. To me she looked like a healthy little girl albeit slow with walking and not talking yet.
Presenting Complaint – not sleeping
She is put to bed at 7-8pm and will sleep for a couple of hours. She wakes between 11 and midnight and then again at 4 or 5 a.m. She will begin with muttering which if she is left it goes into a frenzy. Mum does just soothe her head and doesn’t talk to her. They have tried putting her to bed later and she still wakes. However she did sleep last night from 2.30-6.30pm and seems more alert for it in that she ate better this morning at breakfast. In the last month or so sometimes she has woken every hour. The bedclothes are off but she feels warm. The back of her head feels sweaty. Her head is sometimes at the wrong end of the bed because she is so restless. The sleep problem has been erratic but Mum is due to give birth to her second child next week.
Sometimes she doesn’t finish her bottle in the evening so is given one when she wakes at 11. She will drink it all. Between 4 and 5 she is ready to get up for the day. Occasionally she has passed a stool.
Mum doesn’t think she eats enough. She weighs 22lbs and when born was 6.9.
Teeth – at 4 months

Walking – not as yet but she crawled before she sat up.

Talking – not yet. I made out the word “door” which she pointed to as she left the room.
Stool – goes every day – no problems
She appears to understand everything that is said to her.
She likes climbing and laughs if she is thrown up in the air. She doesn’t appear to have a fear of the dark.
She now goes to nursery a couple of mornings a week. She waves goodbye when she gets there. Before this mum couldn’t put her down. She will play on her own.
She was a wanted child. Mum during the pregnancy had hyperemesis (severe vomiting) and was hospitalised at 16 weeks. Towards the end of the pregnancy she had HBP and was on beta blockers. She was induced because of this on the due date. M was delivered by Venthouse. When pregnant mum had lots of vivid dreams.
When she was born M had light therapy for jaundice which quickly cleared up. She was breast fed for 3 weeks. She cried and didn’t settle between feeds which is why Mum went onto a bottle. She cried a lot after the birth and couldn’t be put down. However Mum said that she was crying a lot and thinks that M sensed it.
In December she had vomiting and then diarrhoea for 2 weeks with a fever. She developed a chesty cough and was wheezy. She had a temperature and an ear infection for which she was given 1 dose of an antibiotic but as it made the diarrhoea worse mum didn’t give her any more. At this time her hands and arms were blue.
She likes sorting things and appears to be a tidy child. She shuts cupboards when her dad opens them and will pick up bits from the carpet. She loves getting things out of bags and putting them back in again. She doesn’t seem too upset if she has a messy face and loves splashing around in water.
She seems to prefer company.
She doesn’t make an undue fuss when she falls over.
Loves being tickled – Dad was stroking through her hair which she seemed to enjoy.
Food – loves fruit particularly bananas. She likes juicy fruits as well. She likes milk – possibly prefers it cold. She will eat eggs. Mum says she is not good at trying new foods. She will eat a bit of veg like broccoli and cauliflower. Sometimes she will eat chicken. She didn’t appear to like ham when she was given it. He eats toast and dry cereal.
She had a bit of eczema after some baby rice at the back of her neck and on her shoulders.
She doesn’t like it when Mum hugs dad or anyone else.
She doesn’t seem to like the heat or the cold. Likes being wrapped up.
Can be a bit stubborn but from what I saw was very easily distracted out of it.
Mum describes her as a smiley child with a sense of humour.
Family History

Father has had asthma in the past

Grandparents, HBP, DVT One great grand mother had breast cancer at 60 but is now in her 90’s and fine!!

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J Lucas
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

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Is there any vaccination history?

Best, Joy

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Rosemary C Hyde PhD
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

Post by Rosemary C Hyde PhD »

Rochelle -- one remedy you might look at is Agaricus. The slowness in
walking and talking and the blue extremities during illness are both in that
remedy. Plus your overal description fits Agar -- especially that she likes
being thrown in the air and needs company when she awakes at night or gets
into a stronger and stronger state of distress.

Rosemary


APEX PRECITECH
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

Post by APEX PRECITECH »

Tuberculinum.

Venkat

--- rochelle wrote: > I found
it difficult to prescribe for this child

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Rochelle
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

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She has had all her vaccinations and according to her parents there were no reactions that they can remember!!

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Rochelle
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

Post by Rochelle »

Tub was one I thought of but she doesn't seem to have the temper tantrums I would expect. However she does have the hair down the spine! There was no TB in the family history as I particularly asked.
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Rochelle
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

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Thanks Rosemary as this is not a remedy I thought of. I will study it.

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Eleana Needham
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

Post by Eleana Needham »

Have a look at cypripedium - I have used it successfully for children who
wake up in the middle of the night and dont want to go back to sleep - if
the picture fits.

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Rochelle
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

Post by Rochelle »

Dear Eleana,

What an interesting Rx . I have copied some of it below for others to read. I am not sure if it could fit this case though. Under what circumstances have you used it?

All the best
Rochelle
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Rob
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Re: Child who doesn't sleep

Post by Rob »

Here are some ideas from Farok Master

Passiflora mother tincture - some drops in water could be taken 3 times
daily and an hour before bedtime - works for among others infants, by
quieting the nervous system

Sleeplessness during dentition - Cham, Cina or Cimic 200 - 4 pills every 4
hours if needed

Sleeplessness from overstimulation of the brain - Cypripedium 30c - 4 pills
three times daily
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Rochelle,
It does help to know the cause, even though it is difficult to work out
sometimes

it could be food that is incompatible
it could be the apprehension or other emotion of the mother or both parents
to the imminent birth of 2nd
it could be overstimulation
it could be teething
it could be....................
it could be that now that the 2nd child is about to arrive the parents would
prefer the first to sleep through so they can attend to the new baby - nice
ideal but.................
but it does not sound to me like anything too serious and would likely
respond to the usual rems for restless sleep - she is sleeping, it is just
not all through the night, and how many children do that?

Homoeopathically/Herbally a mixture of Passiflora and Valerian tincture
usually does the trick if there is no pathology as the root cause

just some thoughts

Robyn
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