I appreciate immensely all the information you have shared and you have
caught me at a time when I am overwhelmed.
My parents just arrived from the US and it took a lot of work
homeopathically to get my mom able to travel. She became ill and didn't
tell me until Sunday (their flight was on Tuesday from Arizona to UK). So
I have been intensively helping her and a few other patients who needed
extra attention, my classes, and tours that are coming up - I have 5 of
them from June 14 - September 11. Parents arrived yesterday and mom doing
better, but I have extended beyond my capability.
And I just don't have time to discuss this.................
Basically I will just summarize here briefly instead of answering each
persons comments directly.
1. There is a huge difference between prophylaxis in the presence of 'the
disease' (and that is a huge topic right there - ie pertussis in the
neighborhood)
2. I VERY much know genus epidemicus and nosode protection in these
situations and cannot prove that the remedy protected if the person did not
get the disease as susceptibility is the main factor here...............
the person is stuck or has extremely violent or painful symptoms and needs
help, etc
I don't see the need for routine use of this either
3. I do NOT see the for routine homeoprophylaxis of the degree used by
Isaac Golden, or even for just one or 2.
I don't see the need
I don't see there is a way to know that it even works
It hasn't been proven to me to be safe to use that many nosodes in that
number that frequently for all of those diseases
I just do NOT see the need
4. I do not have anyone demanding it of me, nor would I do it even if they
did. I do not need to please everyone.
5. I spend tons of time teaching about homeopathy to my patients and my
students. I teach the principles. I teach the dangers of allopathic
vaccines. I teach the respect for remedies and use them judiciously. My
experience is that people more than welcome the information and the
opportunity to embrace a new way of looking at things. I don't have the
experience I see expresssed by some of you here. I KNOW in and out the
dangers of allpathic vaccination. I know the allopathic views and
approaches to these diseases.
I have the above approach in #2 to each and every one of them.
6. I'm sure there are people I come in contact with who are not satisfied
with the above and go elsewhere. They don't tell me that, but I'm sure it
is true.
7. I just don't see the need for it. I don't fear the diseaes and maybe
my confidence in homeopathy and myself and in the patient's vital force
comes through to many.......I have no explanation. I don't have the
experience of large numbers of people holding onto their fear after
spending time with them.
8. And if the parents have fear, that is what they have. If I can't help
with informaiton and homeopathic treatment, I don't do something that I
don't believe is right just to help their fear (which hasn't been helped
anyway).
9. I do not know Isaac Golden and it appears that he is caring and
concerned. I cannot speak about him in any way. I can only look at what
is promoted in his name and say that I do NOT agree with it, do not see the
need for it, do not see a precedent for it in homeopathic history outside
of epidemics, and I am not convinced of the safety of it. It wasn't
totally fair to talk about him behind his back but he has the opportunity
to be on the list and also when one of us makes ourselves public as he has,
and I have with the vaccine issue, we have to expect we will be discussed
on lists and opinions expressed. The thrust of my arguments was not about
money, but it certainly is something I consider when I see the money
involved in vaccination allopathically and in reference to another
listmembers comments about money. So I will take him at his word that it
is not about money.
10. I don't buy into the germ theory. I think some people, though
homeopaths, still have that miasmatic layer of damage that allopathic and
germ theory have caused! Germs, viruses, bacteria, do NOT cause disease.
They are the result. And I even have een exploring how they are aspects of
us that actually shift and morph within us to meet the need in our bodies
at the time. Rife, Naessens, Bechamp and others. I see this fit really
nicely with how I view everything homeopathically. IT IS ABOUT THE HOST.
Not the germs, the bugs, the viruses and targeting them or taking large
numbers of substances based on them.
1l. I stand by my statement there is no proof that this fear based
homeoprophylaxis works. NONE. As Julian said, if 'the wolf is at the
door', it is a little more convincing if I've given a remedy and the person
doesn't get the illness, that it might have worked. But susceptibility is
the key here and they might not have gotten it anyway. I can't go into a
parallel universe and take the remedy in that universe and not take it in
this one and compare. If I'm concerned that my 3 month old might get
pertussis from my 4 year old, I can choose to use Pertussin but I will
never know for sure, but may want to hedge my bets hoping. But that is
very different than throwing all of that against the wall and hoping
something sticks.
12. I have not had the experience that anyone I have had contact with will
go get the allopathic vaccinations if I don't do something. Just haven't
ever had that happen. Maybe they do and don't tell me, but actually,
rarely have I had someone even ask about homeopathic vaccination (maybe
because not that many non-homeopaths know about it in US and UK as opposed
to NZ&OZ)
13. And it is a rare place the vaccines are MANDATED without an out.
Italy has been one, but people have gotten around it and there are some
shifts happening there. France is another challenge, but people are
managing there for now also. Otherwise the rest of Europe, as far as I
know has no mandates and Switzerland vaccine dangers people have done a
good job getting info out. In UK they are not mandated but many think they
are because of the constant pressure and fear based programming. In Canada
it is against their constitution to mandate, but they also can be very
pushy and people think that they are mandated, but they are not. Ontario
and a few others do require written exemptions which is weird when their
constitution doesn't allow mandates. Australia & NZ do NOT have mandates.
And then there is the US. Every state as a medical exemption (hard to get
though); most states have a religious exemption that basically is just a
philosophical exemption - make a statement you are refusing (some states
require to be a member of a specific church that refuses and those are
problematic but also unconstituitional and require someone to take an
interest and get the laws changed) And somewhere around 20 states allow
you to just refuse (a philosophical exemption). But many are not aware of
these. Once they are educated about this, it is a moot point about being
'required' to get vaccinations.
14. What I see is vital is for homeopaths to educate themselves about all
aspects of allopathic vaccines and their dangers (on all levels); educate
themselves as to the laws where they practice and ins and outs; educate
themselves about the reality of these diseases (their existence; your risk
of exposure; your risk if you 'get' them; homeopathic and allopathic
options); to realize as homeopaths that we too have been programmed with
allopathic and germ theory thinking and although most have come a long way,
many still have hangups that need to be ferreted out and rooted out and
cleared. When you are clear, your patients will be clear. That is my
experience.
15. And am in contact with huge numbers of families (via my email lists,
classes and patient contacts) with unvaccinated children who do not do
homeopathic prophylaxis either. They have worked with their fears or never
had them to begin with to any great extent. They have extremely healthy
children in most cases. It is amazing the difference within familieswho
have vaccinatd some of their children allopathically and have not
vaccinated some. So health of the child is not something that proves that
homeopathic vaccination works. Not getting the disease in the absence of
the wolf at the door is not proof. Not getting the disease even if the
wolf comes to the door at some point after 'homeopathic vaccination ' is
not proof.
There is no way to prove it in my opinion. And I just see no need.
16 My experience is that the MAIN issue is FEAR of disease for people and
that is where I always start. And I don't see my goal to help their fear
fall away by reinforcing their belief in fear of disease and the allopathic
model of vacination, but just a potentized substance.
17. And I actually think that very possibly experiencing some of these
acute miasms may be necessary to help throw of inherited and acquired
miasms. Can't be sure. And maybe getting the nosode does the same thing.
I don't know that. But in the past seeing the great leaps children make in
development after experiencing some of these diseases has certainly been
interesting (and I do still see it with other illnesses in childhood also).
17. Homeopathic prophylaxis in the presence of the 'wolf at the door'
(like that phrase Julian
) and blanket administration of tons ofremedies to me ARE VERY different subjects. So to be criticized regarding
my homeopathic knowledge because I don't agree with these protocols is
really out of place. They are different things and I see them getting
mixed up and those who want to do blanket homeoprophylaxis wanting to use
them to support their claims. And I don't agree.
18 You have freedom of choice here. I cannot tell you want to do. I can
only share what I think from my research, my life experience and my
knowledge of homeopathic principles.
I wish I had more time........hope this suffices
You cannot vaccinate your way to health with allopathic vaccination, and I
don't think you can with homeopathic vaccination either.
Sheri
For more info on the reality of some of these diseases vaccinated for see
my webpages, especially polio pages
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm
The issue of vaccination has always been politicized and used to make money
So, the truth about the diseases has become distorted. The truth of the
origins of polio has become distorted.
Many of these are about toxic exposures. There is too much to try and
explain here.
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