Depression and Eczema

[Sim Thiam Chye]

Dear list

I am looking for a rubic for eczema that appears when the person get depressed.
Is this the body's defense mechanism working? - pushing the disease out via the least important organ.

rgds
TC

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[andyh]

Sim Thiam Chye wrote:
Dear TC,

Here is the only specifc rubric found (but you might also look in Synthesis):
Complete 2000
MIND; SADNESS, despondency, depression, melancholy; eruptions, in; eczema, with (1) : cupr-acet.
Also
MIND; SADNESS, despondency, depression, melancholy; eruptions, in; itch, with suppressed (SRI-879) (2) : psor., sulph.
MIND; SADNESS, despondency, depression, melancholy; eruptions, in; suppressed (SRI-879) (1) : hep.
MIND; SADNESS, despondency, depression, melancholy; eruptions, in; hand, back of, on, which appeared overnight (1) : psor.
also amph.
HOMEOPATHIC -- Amphisbena acts most markedly on the jaws, causing swelling and pain, especially in the right jaw, worse by air and dampness. Many kinds of severe headache are complained of, pains are frequent. Eruptions of vesicles and pimples. It is a right-side medicine. There is generally aggravation from motion.
CLINICAL - Constipation. Cramps. Debility. Headache. Hernia, Jaw, pains. Toothache.
Modalities - Better from evening. Better from itching of the eruption. Worse in morning.
mez
Religious or financial melancholy: melancholy in regard to his business: indifference to everybody and everything.... Insanity

Also (none of these specifically ezcema, several are urticaria, a different phenomena):
Skin/eruption/ezcema [sen] worse/agg/from [sen] emotions: 3Anac.231, arn.54, ars.3020, berb.2191, beryl., 3Bov.231, caust.56, cupr.202, dig.8, dys-co.188, ign., kali-br., 2lach.58, psor.56, 2puls.127
If access to Roger's new Rep Universale, would look for skin worse from emotions or sadness.

Hope this helps,

Best,
Andy

[Robyn]

Hi
Can't give you a rubric this minute but can suggest you take a look at
Psorinum, Nat m and Anacardium and Hep - these were suggested by various
authors in EH as having depression and eczema at same time.

Austhors were Herscu - Nat m
Geukens Hep s
Roger Morrison and Sankaran for Psorinum
Allen for Anac

Will give more info if needed

Robyn

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[J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN]

Hello TC,
Is this a recurrent phenomenon or just once ?
If once, I will keep my hands off, since it is VERY COMMON in homeo
analysis to expect the vital force to express its suppressed
symptoms. Hahnemann's chronic diseases has many examples. Besides, I
had such an experience which was exfoilation all over body in small
patches after a particularly humiliating experience.

But the catch point is that after the skin throws off the symptoms,
mentally the pt must feel better. Or else the presenting totality is
to be treated with emphasis on causation.

If the phenomenon be recurrent,then I will underline causation thrice
and find the strongest one among 'ailments grief from' and start from
there. natm, ign, lach come to mind. But when the other generals come
into play, the case can be easily solved.
I will also look for any peculiarities of the skin sx but they will
have lesser impact on the final remedy.
All the best
Venkat

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[Sim Thiam Chye]

Hi Andy and Robyn

Thanks for the lead. I will check out the MM on the suggested remedies.

Other sx

- depressions from anticipation. - eg extra workload, going for a trip,
prospect of losing job
- Face wrinked -forehead
- Chest feels oppressed
- Stomach; eructations
- Memory, forgetful
- speech, slow
- tearful, when relating
- keep calm front, hide conditions from others

When asked about recurring dreams, he mention briefly about feeling
floating..the only Rx I found for this is Hell.
I am sorry if the case seems in complete as I wasn't taking the case
specifically , just chatting as a friend to him.

rgds
TC

[Sim Thiam Chye]

Hi Venkat

the main complaint is depression, and the eczema eruptions is recurrent
whenever my friend falls into depression.
He has been on Prozac and another drug for more than 10 years. Another key
recurring Sx during depression is his concerns for his spiritual state - why
is God so far from him? is he truly saved, etc.
I mentioned some other symptoms in my earlier reply.

be well
TC

[Allen Coniglio]

Here are some rubrics:

Mind; FEAR; general; salvation, of her (1) : med.
Mind; ANXIETY; salvation, about (K8, SRI-90, G6) (38) : aq-mar., Ars.,
ars-s-f., aur., aur-ar., aur-s., bani-c., calc., calc-ar., calc-s., camph.,
cann-i., carbn-s., chel., coloc., graph., hura, ign., kali-p., Lach.,
Lil-t., lyc., med., merc., mez., nat-m., nux-v., ph-ac., plat., plb., podo.,
psor., puls., Staph., stram., sulph., thuj., Verat.
Mind; ANXIETY; salvation, about; morning (K8, SRI-91, G6) (1) : psor.
Mind; ANXIETY; salvation, about; night (SRI-91) (1) : calc-ar.
Mind; ANXIETY; salvation, about; faith, about loss of his (SRI-91) (5) :
coloc., merc., nux-v., staph., sulph.
Mind; ANXIETY; salvation, about; hell, of (SRI-91) (1) : plat.
Mind; ANXIETY; salvation, about; menses, during (2) : sulph., verat.
Mind; ANXIETY; salvation, about; scruples, excessive religious (SRI-91) (8)
: ars., ign., lyc., nux-v., ph-ac., puls., Staph., Sulph.
Mind; DELUSIONS, imaginations; lost; salvation, for (K29, SRI-318, G23) (10)
: aesc., arg-n., ars., aur., bani-c., hell., hura, lach., orig., plb.
Mind; DELUSIONS, imaginations; lost; salvation, for; despised, and, in
erotomania (1) : orig.
Mind; DELUSIONS, imaginations; lost; salvation, for; predestination, from
(SRI-318) (1) : lach.
Mind; DELUSIONS, imaginations; lost; salvation, for; waking, on (K29,
SRI-318, G23) (1) : aesc.
Mind; DELUSIONS, imaginations; lost; salvation, for; world, to the, beyond
hope (SRI-389) (1) : arg-n.
Mind; DESPAIR; salvation of soul, of eternal, after fright (1) : stram.
Mind; DOUBTFUL; souls welfare, of (K37, SRI-414, G29) (19) : Ars., Aur.,
bell., calc., chel., croc., cycl., dig., hyos., kola., Lach., lil-t., lyc.,
nux-v., Puls., sel., stram., sulph., verat.
Mind; FEAR; general; damned, of being (5) : arg-n., lach., med., psor.,
verat.
Mind; RELIGIOUS; affections, general; sadness; doubt about salvation, with
(1) : lyc.
Female; MENSES; suppressed; despair of salvation, with (1) : verat.
Mirilli's Themes; SALVATION (58) : aesc., anac., aq-mar., arg-n., arn.,
ars., ars-s-f., aur., aur-ar., aur-i., aur-s., bell., calc., calc-ar.,
calc-i., calc-s., camph., cann-i., carbn-s., carc., chel., coloc., croc.,
cycl., dig., germ., graph., hell., hura, hyos., ign., kali-c., kali-p.,
lach., lil-t., lyc., lyss., med., merc., mez., nat-c., nat-m., nux-v.,
orig., ozone, ph-ac., plat., plb., podo., psor., puls., sel., stann.,
staph., stram., sulph., thuj., verat.
Allen

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi TC,

Is Lyc a possibility? It jumped to mind from your synopsis (elsewhere), and
I notice it is also a (2) in MIND; ANXIETY; salvation, about: aq-mar., Ars.,
ars-s-f., aur., aur-ar., aur-s., bani-c., calc., calc-ar., calc-s., camph.,
cann-i., carbn-s., chel., coloc., graph., hura, ign., kali-p., Lach.,
Lil-t., lyc., med., merc., mez., nat-m., nux-v., ph-ac., plat., plb., podo.,
psor., puls., Staph., stram., sulph., thuj., Verat.

Shannon
on 4/13/04 4:27 AM, Sim Thiam Chye at tcsim@starhub.net.sg wrote:

[J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN]

Dear TC,
This has to be looked at as melancholia. Dr Krishnamurthy has given a
few cases which he solved with the help of Lilienthal's therapeutics.

Look at verat alb. Lilienthal gives it as with religious melancholy,
with reproaches of conscience, weeping, aprehension of misfortune,
and taciturnity etc.
Just a thought
Venkat
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recurrent
Another key
state - why

[andyh]

Sim Thiam Chye wrote:
Other sx

- depressions from anticipation. - eg extra workload, going for a trip,
prospect of losing job
- Face wrinked -forehead
- Chest feels oppressed
- Stomach; eructations
- Memory, forgetful
- speech, slow
- tearful, when relating
- keep calm front, hide conditions from others

When asked about recurring dreams, he mention briefly about feeling
floating..the only Rx I found for this is Hell.
I am sorry if the case seems in complete as I wasn't taking the case
specifically , just chatting as a friend to him.
Dear TC,

In short, you might take a close look at Hura bras.(especially), Baryta carb or Bar-s or a baryta, the cuprums, nat-m, gels, and psor. But reps are laid out here for hopefully a help for your study of the case...
Best
Andy

MIND; DREAMS; floating (K1240, SRIII-301, G1023) (1) : hell. (Helleborus is the acute of BARYTA CARBONICA, and he sounds like he might be a little lacking grit (tearful when relating sx, anxiety salvation, forsaken by god(?) (Bar-c delusion their legs are cut off). Does he have any other sx of helleborus at times like unobserving, or conduct automatic...If so, could be a chronic Bar-c. What was childhood like?

Baryta carbonica
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Childish. Timid,shy. Lack confidence. Irresolute.
Dwindling mental faculties/senility (w/childishness).
Acute & recurrent tonsillitis. Swollen tonsils.
Adenopathy.
Late to walk and talk. Large head, infants.
Immature genitals. Atrophy of parts.
Offensive foot sweat (toes, soles sore).
Aversion fruit (plums), sweets.