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Topics in this digest:
1. Cruelty
From: "Finrod"
2. Re: Good and evil
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
3. Re: Cruel people
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
4. Re: cruel people
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:31:55 -0000
From: "Finrod"
Subject: Cruelty
Andrew Asked:
"a person who is *naturally* cruel is disarrayed in his moral order. what
does this have to do with the VF?"
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I would be surprised if anyone is "naturally" cruel.
Cruelty is an 'off balance' situation and therefore unhealthy - in reality a
symptom of disease.
If a patient has always been weepy, do we say that they are naturally weepy?
No! Cruelty is no different.
They just require treatment for their presenting symptoms. In the case of
cruelty, there may be various reasons (as mentioned in earlier posts) which
ALL need to be investigated, evaluated and responded to utilising all of our
homoeopathic training.
Soroush
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:26:59 -0600
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
Subject: Re: Good and evil
Hi Jean,
I realize this is not necessarily the same situation as the "serious mental
disease" thread is talking about, but I'm interested to know whether you saw
these remedies on the basis of physical symptoms as well as mentals, or
mentals only?
How did you happen to treat these people? And wow, good for you!!!! (I'd
love to hear more, if there is more!)
Shannon
on 1/25/03 5:09 PM, Jean Watson Doherty at clelly@tpg.com.au wrote:
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:38:05 -0600
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
Subject: Re: Cruel people
Hi Tanya,
I agree with all you've said *except* (this is kind of a small point) I
don't feel comfortable with assuming that people e.g. "liked being the piece
of shit that he was", that they don't want to get well. Change is always
hard, and the more deeply you're caught, and the fewer "good times" you have
to draw on, the harder and more frightening it is to contemplate change.
In a way this makes no practical difference to treatment (whether lack of
follow-up is thru liking the pathology, or thru fear of the process of
getting well); because as you say, it's up to *them*, we can't force the
issue! But the difference it does make is in the easier patience and
compassion that follows from one view, versus the "judgement" that flows
from the other. Besides, even if it were true about some few, I think we're
safer -- less apt to miss someone we *could* help -- if we stay out of
judgments or assumptions.
Despite holding this view strongly, I haven't always been *able* to do it;
some people and situations just push one's buttons! But I think it's a goal
worth aiming for.
Pedantically yours,
Shannon
on 1/26/03 4:54 AM, tanya marquette at tamarque@frontiernet.net wrote:
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:44:28 -0600
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
Subject: Re: cruel people
I think "cruelty" takes its meaning less from the acts, and more from the
context, awareness, and intent. When a cat plays with a mouse, it's not
being cruel, it's just being a cat. *Usually* with those little kids, it's
more similar to that; they don't realize they're causing pain. (And, uh,
sheesh, what *does* a bug feel? Beats me...)
Probably there are some people like this, who cause pain simply because they
don't see it as meaningful. If the person is not obviously mentally
deficient, we'd call them "cruel", but maybe that wouldn't be the right
term; maybe "morally deficient" would be closer.
But "cruel" as I understand it, would mean someone who actively enjoys
others' suffering, and unfortunately there are some of those around too.
For whatever reasons...
Shannon
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