sanicula for the milk case?

[Joy Lucas]

Just take a look at what Sanicula has in it - Nat mur; Calc-m; Mag Mur; Calc
bi-carb; Calc sulph; Kali sulph; Nat bi-carb; Nat brom; Ferrum bi-carb; Nat
iod; Sil; Alum; Lithium carb; Nat phos; and Borax with which Sanicula shares
the fear of downward motion.

Has an affinity to nutrition, young children, skin, female organs, and
rectum.

Very Tubercular in its nature, you might think you have a client who is
Silica or Phosphorus, Sanicula is very irritable and appears to be unstable
at times. Lots of tears alternating with laughter.

From Borland - "the Sanicula child never sticks long at anything, very
obstinate and difficult to control. There is likely to be a row if you
interfere with a Sanicula child. But it is very difficult to distinguish
between the Silicea child and the Sanicula child, the physical symptoms are
almost identical".

There is a great need for the child to be carried and they will scream when
you try to put them down. Like Phosphorus the darkness aggravates and they
become very fearful in the dark - sees robbers and feel that people are
walking around in the dark. Lots of night terrors, dreams of murder. The
irritability alternates with laughter and cheerfulness, a very variable
mood.

The nutritional deficiency shows itself in the intense desire for milk and
being extremely emaciated, tendency to rickets, ringworm, scurvy, and also
tendency to boils (on the physical level) and by a poor learning ability
(mentally) - slow learning to talk, very forgetful and irresolute, averse to
doing any mental work at all, their thoughts wander all over the place as
much as their bodies do - very restless, desire to travel.

The levels of sensitivity will vary from child to child but it can be so
strong that they cannot bear to be touched. They will become suspicious of
your intentions. But like many of the tubercular remedies they can be full
of sympathy and sadness as well - just depends on the level of sensitivity.

Interestingly the body can smell like old cheese - not surprised with all
that milk drinking.

Hope interesting, Joy

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Joy!
Yes, this has a *lot* of touchpoints with her.
I recall it's one that she had many years ago (not much effect,
surprisingly), but could well be time to consider it again.

(A question: I've been unsure how to use her "milk behavior". There's an
intensity to her anger and rebellion when she is "milk addled" that is
really unlike her "non-milk" behavior. Does one repertorize the "addled"
behavior, or view it as more in the nature of a "local symptom", and place
emphasis on her "normal" behavior? I'd love remarks on this...)

BTW (I forget whether I've posted this or not...) two other things about
her, she has a similar intense/addictive relationship with candy (will beg,
sneak, deceive in order to get it), and (does this part go against Tub?) it
seems that she will lie readily, when a lie is more convenient than the
truth. E.g., "Yes, I brushed my teeth already" (but the toothbrush is dry);
"Yes I fed the animals" (but their dishes are empty), "No, I didn't have
any" (but all the cookies are gone), etc. I *think* this has to do not with
enjoyment in deceiving (I am guessing that she's embarrassed about it, but
who knows, as she does not "confess" to anything!). I *think* it has to do
with something like weakness (cowardice, even?) or laziness (and she is
definitely lazy, perhaps partly because of the lack of energy?). Still,
there seems to be a willingness to deceive, to do "the easy thing rather
than the right thing", which makes me think all over about the addictive
stuff...

Which did seem very consistent with sulphur (or does it??), but so far
sulphur has not done much (this time around, anyway). Last summer sepia did
some *terrific* work, but a re-dose after (slightly changed) relapse some
months later, didn't do much. Not sure to what extent I am "chasing
symptoms" (argh!!!!). She gradually improves over the years, but MUCH less
deeply than what is needed!!!

Aside from this, her chief complaints (or mother's, really) have to do with
weakness, lack of stamina, getting sick when she is under stress (e.g. going
to school ), and taking far too long to throw things off -- each
illness can take several days to develop (looks like she is just cranky and
tired, then after several days finally develops e.g. cold symptoms) and can
take a week or more to get over -- even minor illnesses.

During a couple of "chatty" moods, she mused about how she would love to be
"famous". Doesn't much care what *for*, doesn't much care what she *does*,
just likes the idea of being famous. And similarly, I have observed that
she wants to be praised for her work/performance, but does not seem so much
concerned about actual *quality* of work or performance, as about being
praised. As tho she wants to feel "exceptional" without actually doing the
work needed to *become* exceptional. (Sulphur again? but...)

I'll be in and out and distracted for the next few days, but will eagerly
resume once the holiday madness settles down! I am *sooooo* much
appreciating *all* the thoughts and ideas, as this one has had me just about
tearing my hair out!

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL! (And/or other appropriate Season's Greetings!)

Shannon

on 12/21/02 11:29 AM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:

[Joy Lucas]

Shannon wrote
of course you should rep her 'addled' behaviour - this is part of the
diseased state and what needs to be cured. This might well filter through
into her so called normal beahviour, as very often there are no sure cut off
points between health and being unhealthy.

shannon also wrote
certainly the sweets do not go against the tuberculer diathesis - but it is
important not to isolate parts of the case, you need to grade these symptoms
and form a hierarchy of importance.

And the lying is central to her deficiency - energy - it is so much easier
to say you have done something when you haven't. Silicea, for example, will
do this all the time, they just don't have the energy to do what is needed -
it is WHY they are telling lies and not the lie itself. They also want to
please (when they are in the mood to do so, just like Phos, so saying they
have done something, when they haven't is part of their 'charm.' They want
to please you by being good and it is not important to them that they are
telling lies to do that.

shannon wrote
lack of stamina sums this up and is again part of the deficiency - which is
a kind of inability to assimilate - all the tubercular rx have this - it can
border onto marasmus at times.
shannon wrote >During a couple of "chatty" moods, she mused about how she
would love to be

same thing again, lazy because no energy, but wants to be part of, be loved,
be praised, be consoled - all tubercular children are like this - next
minute they are driving you up the wall.

perhaps this is a situation of when the indicated remedy fails to act, or
just needs giving again now.

best wishes, Joy
_________________________________________________________________
MSN 8 limited-time offer: Join now and get 3 months FREE*.
http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&x ... I=7474&SU=
http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getm ... ishere_3mf

[Zaidee]

Hi Shannon,

Sepia and Tuberculin are complementary, besides not telling the right and
liking candies etc. Take care.

Sincerely,
Zaidee

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:52:05 -0600
From: Robert&Shannon Nelson
Subject: Re: sanicula for the milk case?
Thanks Joy!
Yes, this has a *lot* of touchpoints with her.
I recall it's one that she had many years ago (not much effect,
surprisingly), but could well be time to consider it again.