patient speak - jaw

[Rochelle]

The same patient has a condition which she thinks is called "trimus". If
she grinds her teeth at night she can wake in the morning not being able to
open her mouth on the left side as the muscle is in spasm. She says it is a
cramp in the muscle and on occasions it has lasted a few days. Has anyone
heard of this and is it what is in the rep as:-

Murphy - Teeth
CRAMP, jaws masseters muscles, mouth opening agg. (1)
1 cocc

Can someone please tell me where the "masseter muscle " is?
I also found:-
- Face
LOWER JAW AND MAXILLARY JOINTS: CRAMP TRISMUS, LOCK JAW: (59)

but to me Lockjaw is tetanus. At least I have the word Trimus here.

regards,
Rochelle
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[Marleen]

Saturday, November 16, 2002, 10:54:48 PM, rochelle wrote:
take a look here for picture Rochelle
http://hon.nucleusinc.com/generateexhibit.php?ID=2440

its the muscle that make the jaw move, or chew food if im correct.

Marleen

[Rochelle]

Brilliant Marleen - Thanks for that - at least now I know it is the correct
rubric!! So do you reckon this could also be called Lockjaw or not?

regards
Rochelle
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[Marleen]

Saturday, November 16, 2002, 11:26:17 PM, rochelle wrote:
Im not an expert to explain in English Rochelle, if im wrong then im
sure someone will correct me, i see the lockjaw as a symptom ...
inflammation of the jaw muscle, a condition that resembles tetanus,
but does not result from tetanus. Thats the best i can do sorry.

Marleen

[Rosemary Hyde]

Hi, Rochelle. Sounds like an interesting patient.

The masseter muscle is the muscle that opens and shuts the jaw. It's
located sort of under the ear at the angle of the lower jaw. It would
indeed be tense or in spasm with grinding the teeth, and "trismus" is a word
for such a spasm. Lockjaw is a form of trismus, but trismus is the larger
term.

FWIW....

As for repertorizing the mental symptoms of "bubbleheadedness," how central
or important does the patient feel it is for her? Clearly it's rather
peculiar, but I find that often peculiar symptoms that are very small,
especially when they're really difficult to pin down with assurance, don't
necessarily lead to the correct remedy. The "trismus" seems a more reliable
symptom, at least...

Rosemary

[Rochelle]

Thanks Rosemary,
I don't really think that either of these symptoms are particularly
important to her at this moment as her presenting case is an IBS which
hopefully the Lycopodium I gave her will sort out. I actually see her
remedy as Carc. and will probably give this next time I see her. I posted
these 2 symptoms because I am in the process of typing up her case and
thought they made interesting reading and wondered if anyone could come up
with anything I hadn't thought of. At least I know where the muscle is and
what it does. I found:-

Unassigned - Face
PARALYSIS general jaws muscles, masseter (2)
1 anh, 1 glon

and look at this from Soul on Anhalonium:-


I wonder??????
Regards,
Rochelle

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[Dave Hartley]

I would really like to know who pulled this particular rabbit out of a hat.

On what evidence ?!
Dave Hartley
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[Jon van Hoffen]

Dear Dave,

This remark probably comes from
Sankaran (Insight into plants). I don't have the original post of this
anymore, so I can't say with certainty if the quote related to this. In his
latest book Sankaran places Anhalonium in the Cancer miasm. In his
terminology this is related to the degree of 'struggle' and 'coping'.
In his words:
"The main feeling of the cancer miasm is that he has to put everything he
has and much more, in an intense struggle to survive; he must stretch
himself beyond the limits of his capacity."
Imo the miasm-classification of Sankaran is open to discussion, as Sankaran
himself acknowledges in his preface, so statements like the above should not
be made as categorically as (probably) has been done.
Sankaran's ideas could be useful, but not if taken to seriously too soon. I
don't think you should use the miasm classification of Sankaran as set in
stone. It can be a useful roadmap to help you find the way to a less common
remedy, but I think it is far too early to be used in any other way, and in
the long run we might find this system does not work as well as we would
hope.

So in short, there is not much evidence, but this does not mean we have to
throw these sort of ideas overboard. There is a chance that these ideas
might be helpful to find the simillimum in some cases, especially the harder
to find smaller remedies.

Jon van Hoffen

[Joy Lucas]

Sankaran - in "The Soul of Remedies" says this

Joy
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