Bone ache

[Rochelle]

Had a patient in today who told me that she felt sluggish. Suddenly 2 weeks
ago she was aching , feeling hot and cold and since then has been living on
anadin. She says although she feels better she still has aches which she
says are in her bones, feels clammy and heady. Her skin feels sore. It is
worse at night when she is restless , trying to get comfortable and she is
not particularly thirsty which is the same as usual.

She also said that 2 months ago she went to the doctor and had lots of blood
tests as she felt tired and had no confidence in herself which is not like
this usually gregarious, lively, very sociable woman. She likes to be busy.
She was anxious and felt that she didn't have a minute to herself. (Carc?) I
presume this lifted before she got the present virus.

There is nothing much else in the case. No obvious causation.

I have actually given her some Eupat. Perf 30 because of the bone pain and
it also is in the skin sore rubric. However there is no respiratory stuff at
all. Last time I gave this remedy for bone pain after a virus nothing
happened. The case was cured by giving the constitutional remedy - Phos.

Although there is no family history of cancer, heart disease, diabetes etc.
. the only constitutional remedy that comes to mind is Carc. She has no
fears like a Phos or Ars would have, quite likes thunderstorms and is
sensitive about upsetting people and putting her foot in it. She had blue
sclerotics, can't say no even if she is not well. Consolation agg , likes
spicy. She says that her husband says that she is always putting herself
down and thinks herself thick because she left school without further
education She is fastidious to the extent that she tidies around her 2 kids.

Do you reckon I have got enough there to give Carc if the Eupat p.doesn't do
anything?

Regards,
Rochelle
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[Joy Lucas]

Dear Rochelle, in my opinion absolutely not enough for Carcinosin - a
horrendously over prescribed remedy. There is a contradiction - sluggish yet
restless and anxious - you need to delve into this more. Does she still have
a fever, even low grade? is it alternating? In what way is her skin sore -
is it sensitive to touch. She is thirstless and restless, does she need
Belladonna? What about the other Eupatoriums? What viruses are going around
her/your area. Have you waited to see what the remedy will do. And although
you say there is nothing eles in the case - there probably is. Be patient,
wait and see what the Eupatorium does and it doesn't matter that she
doesn't present with the respiratory sx for 2 reasons - 1) she has been
living off anadin and probably suppressed some sx and 2) not everyone
presents with a complete picture of any remedy.

Again, be patient and re take the full case if and when she comes back to
you.

regards, Joy
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[Dr. R. Swift]

Rochelle,

Have you considered Calc-p?

'The worst thing is if they think I am stupid'.

This is a quote from Scholten. In addition it covers the fastidiousness,
bone aches, blue sclera, desire spicy and consolation agg.

be well

russell swift, dvm

[Rochelle]

Dear Joy,
I gave her the Eupat. Perf. today and told her to give it a couple of days.
She doesn't think she has a temperature but I have told her to take her
temperature. I have no intention of giving her anything else until I find
out that the Eupat. hasn't worked!!

There are no viruses at the moment that I know of in the area.

It was sooo difficult to get modalities out of her. she reckoned that there
wasn't a set time for the chills and shivering. She reckons her thirst is no
different than normal but that she is not normally thirsty anyway. I
questioned her on belladonna and really don't think there is anything going
for it.

She will be getting in touch with me again tomorrow as she only lives in my
road.

Regards
Rochelle
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[Rochelle]

Thanks for this Russell. I will study it in Scholten. The keynote I always
look for in Calc. Phos is dissatisfaction and a desire for change which I
don't in her. I gave this remedy very successfully once for a bad case of
sciatica in a woman who was always moving the furniture around and taking in
foreign students.

Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

[Rochelle]

The latest on this case is that the Eupat perf got rid of the bone pain and
the skin soreness but she still feels very weak and is getting the odd
chilly feeling but not the fevers now. She went to the Doctor and he is
sending her for another ESR blood test. I have now given her China 30 to try
and see if this picks her up . See "Pointers in Homeopathy" at the end of
the Influenza chapter.

Regards
Rochelle
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[Dr. R. Swift]

Rochelle,

I'll mention it again, weakness is a classical sign of suppression of the
previous symptoms. I would suggest the eup. was not the simillimum

be well

Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
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"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

[Rochelle]

Dear Russell,
I agree but this is an acute and it got rid of the bone ache and the skin
soreness. She is now on China 30 tid and feels a lot better, more energy
etc. However she is still getting the chills about once a day. She has been
using Nux Vom 30 to get rid of this quickly but I have told her that it an
antidote to China so if she gets a chill again today she is to take another
China. Am thinking of going to China 200 but am not sure. Would appreciate
any other ideas from anyone.
Regards,
Rochelle

www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

[petsfriend]

Rochelle,

I understand that it is an acute. Suppression can occur in acutes and the
situation you describe, i.e. rapid disappearance of acute symptoms with the
appearance of weakness is a classical suppression pattern. It is because the
toxic process is going to a deeper level and the transport of toxins
requires ATP. The use of ATP for toxin transport reduces the ATP available
for other functions. Low ATP = weakness.

This is right out of Dr. Vijayakar's work on this topic.

be well

Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

[Rochelle]

Great !!!!- so let's hope that the China is sorting it out now. I don't
think the China had the bone ache in it though. I need to stop these
reoccurring chills. They tend to be around 3-4pm and again in the evening.
There is no fever and she can't get warm. I haven't spoke to her today and
since there are no cars down the drive she is obviously out. She is helping
her mother out sitting with her 90 yr. old grandma who is seriously ill and
she is concerned about how it will affect her mother when her grandma dies.

Regards

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk