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Feras Hakkak
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Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Feras Hakkak »

Hello,
This time I want to make some comments on holism and
our place. I will try to answer the question "Are
homoeopaths practicing holistic medicine?".

Holism means to consider everything as a whole.
Reductionism is the study of parts of a system to gain
full knowledge about the totality of the system. What
we do in the modern science is absolute reductionism.
We try to go into atom, nucleus, etc to obtain deeper
knowledge. But people with holistic views try to see
the whole and obtain a deep knowledge. You may be
confused how they can do that. This is because we have
grown up in an entirely reductionist world. I think
people of 1000 years ago could understand the concept
much more easily.

In my view, holism does not rule out reductionism. To
be holistic, we have to use reductionism as a tool to
gain deeper knowledge. But, we have to understand many
other things. We know that a system is greater than
the sum of its parts. As holistic physicians, we have
to know anatomy, physiology, pathology, etc but this
is a small part of our job. We have to know art,
psychology, psychiatry, sociology, physics, energy
healing, economics, etc. We have to know our world so
well. Then we can claim that we are holistic persons.

Studying all the mentioned areas of science needs much
effort and time. But it is obvious that if we spend
all our time on these, still we know very little. So,
what is the solution? The solution consists of two
parts:
1- Studying as much as possible
2- Purifying oneself and approaching God
The second part is the only true way and nothing can
take its place. The true holistic people are prophets
and men/women of God. They can heal not only the
body/emotion/mind, but also the souls. These are true
healers. However, we have the duty to do the first
part as well. Although great spiritual people see many
things, they also study. God has wanted us to do that.

Now can we say that we are holistic doctors? Do we
know many things? Have we experinced highly spiritual
worlds? We many times prescribe on two or three
symptoms. Are we holistic doctors?

Fuzzy logic is a kind of logic in which every
statement can be either true, or false, or both. For
example the statement "That car goes fast." can be %80
or %50 true. It depends on our criteria. In classic
logic we only have %100 true or %0 true. Real world is
fuzzy and almost everything is gray (neither white nor
black). With this introduction, I can say that
allopaths are approximately %0 holistic doctors. Some
homoeopaths are %10, some are %50, etc. It depends on
the homoeopath and his/her depth of knowledge and
spirituality. Those people who prescribe homoeopathic
remedies according to mechanical repertorization or
those who give specific remedies with closed eyes do
not differ much from allopaths. They are people who
think they are doing homoeopathy, but they actually do
not.

I hope some day all of us become true holistic beings.

Sincerely,
Feras Hakkak

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Paul Booyse
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Paul Booyse »

Hello Feras,
Some food for thought. But for one thing. The healing of an adept
healer/prophet comes from their spiritual development. As a homeopath, the
healing effect comes not from us (a debatable point yes,) - as much as it
comes from the simillimum, which is a dynamis derived from the creative
forces of nature (usually). To this end the remedy works holistically in
terms of covering the "derangement of the vital force" as caused by the
inner diseases state, according to miasm and factors such as aphorism 5.

Even though we may only see a part of the case, not be that spiritually
advanced or limited in our training, - if we prescribe based on few symptoms
and it is a simillimum, then the remedy Rx does the work on the whole
disturbance. Nevertheless, the art of homeopathy implores us to be studious
and observant to increase our success rate. Our degree of evolvement,
whether acaedemically or spiritually may (or may not) help us to be more
successful, but it is the remedy and method which takes the accolade for
holism. This includes the factors Hn spoke of as disrupting.

The allopathic method can never do this, despite the good intentions of the
practitioner, who may look at the case "holistically" and modify diet,
lifestyle etc.

To be a succesful homeopath requires applying the principles of homeopathy,
study of the remedies and understanding of the case. Routinism, incorrect Sx
extraction etc. will decrease our success rate, but the over philosophising
, reading too much into a situation, (our supposed "spiritual evolvement)
can result in not being the "unprejudiced observer".

Homeopaths can be simple humble human beings. They just need to have good
honest intentions, be observant and study till they drop :-)

Regards,
Paul Booyse


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

So, if I understand you well, someone who claims is an agnostic or an
atheist can nefer be a homeopath?

What a weird concept..............

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".


Feras Hakkak
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Feras Hakkak »

--- "Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD."
wrote:

Hello,
Everybody can be a homoeopath, but those who study and
are spiritual are better ones.

Regards,
Feras
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jdurfeeathome
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by jdurfeeathome »

In a message dated 8/11/2002 5:50:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
jroz@ihug.co.nz writes:
In my opinion the only one who can heal a soul is the one who is contained
within that soul. Advisers, friends, physicians, homeoapths, mystics, saints,
can open doors of perception and show ways to growth but the healer is within
and is the only one who can do the work if and when they choose to take it
on.
Best,
Barbara
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Tanya Marquette »

Dear Barbara,

i see the exception you take to the below quote. however, your comment is true for all levels of healing. the vital force heals. we only provide a stimulus that generates a reaction which hopefully is curative. is it that you see the soul as something special and apart from the vital force and all its manifestations?

tanya


Jan Klüssendorf
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Jan Klüssendorf »

Dear Feras,

You don't answer the question.
The question wasn't if studying and going on the 'spiritual path' (whatever
this might be) make you a better homeopath, because about that everybody of
this group (certainly with the first part of this assumption) would agree, I
guess. The question was if a agnostic or an atheist, couldn't make a good
homeopath, in other words to be a good homeopath does one have to believe in
an a supreme being? That was the question.

Jan


Paul Booyse
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Paul Booyse »

Hi Feras,

You have 2 qualifiers here, neither related.
Study - homeopathy? or religion? One persons "spirituality" can often
conflict with another persons perceived "spirituality". Homepaths need to
be unprejudiced observers, not priests.

regards,
Paul


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Study is obvious for bettering, but why the connection with
spiritual????

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".


Feras Hakkak
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Re: Are we practicing holistic medicine?

Post by Feras Hakkak »

Dear Dr Rozencwajg,
Thanks for your comments.
Many times we come across a rubric or remedy or a
quality in the patient "by chance". I mean sometimes
although we study much something leads us to the
correct prescription which is not from our knowledge.
If we try to be good and spiritual, this kind of
inspiration helps us more. It gives us a better
understanding.

I hope it is clear now.

Regards,
Feras

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