In the dream, the dreamer (F) is approached by a younger woman who says "Are you afraid of me (saying the dreamer's name) and then stabs the dreamer in the abdomen, (if the dreamer hadn't woken up violently fending off the attack).
How would you interpret this dream and what rubric(s) would you use?
Marilyn
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Re: dream interpretation
Most importantly is what the dreamer made of the dream.
Some thoughts are:
mind; DREAMS; stabbed (20)
mind; DREAMS; attacked, of being (38)
mind; DREAMS; danger (198)
mirilli's themes; MURDERED (214)
... from MAcRepertory
~Sherill
In the dream, the dreamer (F) is approached by a younger woman who says "Are you afraid of me (saying the dreamer's name) and then stabs the dreamer in the abdomen, (if the dreamer hadn't woken up violently fending off the attack).
How would you interpret this dream and what rubric(s) would you use?
Marilyn
Some thoughts are:
mind; DREAMS; stabbed (20)
mind; DREAMS; attacked, of being (38)
mind; DREAMS; danger (198)
mirilli's themes; MURDERED (214)
... from MAcRepertory
~Sherill
In the dream, the dreamer (F) is approached by a younger woman who says "Are you afraid of me (saying the dreamer's name) and then stabs the dreamer in the abdomen, (if the dreamer hadn't woken up violently fending off the attack).
How would you interpret this dream and what rubric(s) would you use?
Marilyn
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: dream interpretation
Is it a one off dream or a regular nightmare?
Soroush
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In the dream, the dreamer (F) is approached by a younger woman who says "Are you afraid of me (saying the dreamer's name) and then stabs the dreamer in the abdomen, (if the dreamer hadn't woken up violently fending off the attack).
How would you interpret this dream and what rubric(s) would you use?
Marilyn
Soroush
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Subject: [Minutus] dream interpretation
In the dream, the dreamer (F) is approached by a younger woman who says "Are you afraid of me (saying the dreamer's name) and then stabs the dreamer in the abdomen, (if the dreamer hadn't woken up violently fending off the attack).
How would you interpret this dream and what rubric(s) would you use?
Marilyn
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Maria Bohle
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Re: dream interpretation
More info please. How old is F? Married, single? Children? Working? Problems or competition?
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Marilyn Harris
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Re: dream interpretation
Hi Sherrell,
The dreamer (in the dream and when awake) thought this was an odd question, more like a statement, for a stranger to ask: " are you afraid of me".
After letting it sink in for awhile, she feels that it a representation of the people she has been dealing with while her husband, aged 72, has been in long term residential care for the last 1.5 years with Lewy Body Dementia.
She is her husband's advocate & health care representative and has met with opposition with respect to her husband's care on many occasions.
The management and aides usually present a friendly demeanour but have on numerous occasions blindsided her with nasty meetings & aggressive threats to restrict her access to him. She has not backed down, feels that the friendliness is a facade and does not trust them, either towards herself or her husband.
To her, the phrase "are you afraid of me" and then being stabbed implies that she should be afraid of them, otherwise there are consequences.
Saroush: this was a one off dream. It occurred on the night after her husband was experiencing difficulty breathing during the day.
Marie: the dreamer is 71, has no children and has been married for 49.5 years. Her work is being her husband's advocate and health care representative, and providing personal care for him. She assists him with his lunch and dinner; most of the time he cannot feed himself. He is bedridden and dependent on a mechanical overhead lift to transfer him to a wheelchair for meals and to the toilet. His ability to communicate and be understood is poor. No one knows him better than she does, but the care facility treats them as if they 'own' her husband. If she were not active in speaking for him, he would get unacceptable standard "cookie cutter care".
Marilyn
The dreamer (in the dream and when awake) thought this was an odd question, more like a statement, for a stranger to ask: " are you afraid of me".
After letting it sink in for awhile, she feels that it a representation of the people she has been dealing with while her husband, aged 72, has been in long term residential care for the last 1.5 years with Lewy Body Dementia.
She is her husband's advocate & health care representative and has met with opposition with respect to her husband's care on many occasions.
The management and aides usually present a friendly demeanour but have on numerous occasions blindsided her with nasty meetings & aggressive threats to restrict her access to him. She has not backed down, feels that the friendliness is a facade and does not trust them, either towards herself or her husband.
To her, the phrase "are you afraid of me" and then being stabbed implies that she should be afraid of them, otherwise there are consequences.
Saroush: this was a one off dream. It occurred on the night after her husband was experiencing difficulty breathing during the day.
Marie: the dreamer is 71, has no children and has been married for 49.5 years. Her work is being her husband's advocate and health care representative, and providing personal care for him. She assists him with his lunch and dinner; most of the time he cannot feed himself. He is bedridden and dependent on a mechanical overhead lift to transfer him to a wheelchair for meals and to the toilet. His ability to communicate and be understood is poor. No one knows him better than she does, but the care facility treats them as if they 'own' her husband. If she were not active in speaking for him, he would get unacceptable standard "cookie cutter care".
Marilyn
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: dream interpretation
What a sad situation.
Do you know if there are ways that they can be an actual danger to her?
E.g. does she or he have financial vulnerability?
Does she know of anyone who might have a stake in marginalizing her role in his care?
Personally (if I were in her shoes), I’d explore whether this might be a “message dream”; whether she can think of any particular caution or action that the dream might be urging her to?
(Does she have help managing his and her financial affairs, by someone and in a way that would not be vulnerable to caregivers’ or the facility’s possible meddling, for instance?)
In “a better world” (or in a better facility!) an involved family member should be treated as a treasure, supported and appreciated. If that’s not the case here, is there any way she could have him moved!
In the facility where my father currently lives (in their "independent living” section), although I think it is overall a very good facility, we’ve heard here and there of instances where a staff member was found stealing from elderly residents; and because they would selectively prey on those with “unreliable memories” and indifferent organizational capacity, when (and if) the loss was eventually reported it was very hard to prove, etc… I’m guessing her husband doesn’t have things of value or importance in his room, tho?
I’m trying to think what actual danger the caretakers could represent to her?
Or possibly just an emotional danger.
Just thinking…
Do you know if there are ways that they can be an actual danger to her?
E.g. does she or he have financial vulnerability?
Does she know of anyone who might have a stake in marginalizing her role in his care?
Personally (if I were in her shoes), I’d explore whether this might be a “message dream”; whether she can think of any particular caution or action that the dream might be urging her to?
(Does she have help managing his and her financial affairs, by someone and in a way that would not be vulnerable to caregivers’ or the facility’s possible meddling, for instance?)
In “a better world” (or in a better facility!) an involved family member should be treated as a treasure, supported and appreciated. If that’s not the case here, is there any way she could have him moved!
In the facility where my father currently lives (in their "independent living” section), although I think it is overall a very good facility, we’ve heard here and there of instances where a staff member was found stealing from elderly residents; and because they would selectively prey on those with “unreliable memories” and indifferent organizational capacity, when (and if) the loss was eventually reported it was very hard to prove, etc… I’m guessing her husband doesn’t have things of value or importance in his room, tho?
I’m trying to think what actual danger the caretakers could represent to her?
Or possibly just an emotional danger.
Just thinking…
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Re: dream interpretation
A few suggestions - get an overview of the "cookie cutter schedule".
For example: the mornings are usually very busy, everybody up, dressed, beds made, Dr. may stop by...........it's a sort of stay out of the way time.
Lunch and after lunch seem to be visiting time with less supervision.
Hope something can be worked out.
Atb,
Leilanae
For example: the mornings are usually very busy, everybody up, dressed, beds made, Dr. may stop by...........it's a sort of stay out of the way time.
Lunch and after lunch seem to be visiting time with less supervision.
Hope something can be worked out.
Atb,
Leilanae
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Re: dream interpretation
Hi Leilanae,
It's not the schedule that's the problem, it's getting them to adjust the cookie cutter care model to customized individual care and do it consistently. With Lewy Body Dementia, this is an especially important part in minimizing behavioural issues.
Marilyn
Marilyn
It's not the schedule that's the problem, it's getting them to adjust the cookie cutter care model to customized individual care and do it consistently. With Lewy Body Dementia, this is an especially important part in minimizing behavioural issues.
Marilyn
Marilyn