Insect bite/sting

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Colleagues

Both my daughter and I have been attacked by a creature. The injection/bite is visible as tiny and red.

Immediately afterwards it was really itchy.
However, with an inner radius of about 1 cm and out of about and inch there is an incomplete ring of bruising!
Any ideas what may have attacked us please?
Regards

Soroush

[Leilanae]

Have you tried a search "bugs and their bites"? Web Med has some slides but I didn't see what you described.

Atb,

Leilanae

[Dale Moss]

An answer from an entomologist:

"The mouthparts of some biting arthropods may cause sufficient damage during the processes of probing and biting to cause a small but observable bruise. More likely, however, the bruising derives from a reaction to the arthropod's salivary secretions that causes vasodilation, recruitment of cells of the immune system, and irritation and itching. The latter leads to scratching and further mechanical damage to the tissue. Hence, a bruise is not surprising. So, don't scratch.”
Probably a spider bite.
Peace,
Dale

[Ellen Madono]

Have you scratched to draw blood? This sounds like a really serious bite, but maybe putting plastic tape that does not bleed over it would help at least with the itch. These poisons seem to rely on reaction with oxygen. At least the mosquito bites stop both swelling and itching if you cover them with tape. You have to be more patient if you are late in getting the tape on a bite, but it works eventually.

So, Dale you think that the blood is not black? I guess they would have to scratch until they bleed to know the color of the blood.
Anyway this is what I thought before I saw your post.
Lach comes first with Ars behind it. Vipira has the bleeding black blood freely and the red areaola. It lacks the bleeding at the margins which is probably not correct anyway. Also lacks sting of insect bites. I knocked out bleeding at the margins and got this. Crot-h first and Vip second. I think I would go with Vip for the dark blood.
Too bad we can't send photos. We really should move to a site where we can send our photos of repertorizations.

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Skin; eruptions; vesicles; red; areola:
ANAC CALC CALTH cann-s CHLOL crot-h croto-t kali-c kali-chl NAT-C RHUS-T sil sulph tab vip

Skin; stings of insects:
acet-ac acon AM-C am-caust AM-M ANT-C ANTHR APIS ARN ARS BELL bry bufo CALAD calen camph CARB-AC carbn-s caust CEDR coloc CROT-H dulc ECHI-A graph GRIN gua gunp gymne hippoz HYDR-AC hyper ip kali-c kali-ma kreos LACH LED luna lycps MERC mez mosch nat-c NAT-M phos PULX samb sanic sec seneg sep sil sisy spirae STAPH sul-ac SULPH tab tarent teucr thuj tinos URT-U visc

Skin; ulcers; bleeding; margins:
ARS asaf card-m caust hep lach LYC MERC ph-ac phos puls sep SIL sulph thuj

Generalities; wounds; bites:
acet-ac agav-a all-s am-c am-caust ANAG ANTHR APIS ARIST-CL ARN ARS aur aur-m bapt-c BELL calad calen camph canth caps carb-ac CAUST cean CEDR cench cham CHR-AC cinnam CIST cit-l crot-h CUPR cur CYCL ECHI-A euph-po euph-pr GENT-L GRIN gua guajol gunp gymn gymne hell hep hier-p hippoz ho hydr-ac hyos HYPER indg IOD ip jab kali-ma KALI-N kali-p LACH lat-m LED lob-p lycps LYSS mag-m merc MOSCH nat-m nux-v ph-ac PLAN plume puls PYROG sac-alb samb sanic scut semp SENEG sep sima sisy slag SPIRAE stram stry SUL-AC tanac TARENT-C TER THUJ tinos urt-u viol-o vip visc xan

Generalities; wounds; bites; animals, of poisonous:
acet-ac AM-C am-caust ANAG ANTHR APIS ARIST-CL arn ARS aur aur-m bapt-c BELL calad calen CAMPH caps CARB-AC CAUST cean CEDR cench cham cinnam cit-l crot-h CUPR CYCL ECHI-A euph-po euph-pr GENT-L GRIN GUA gunp gymn gymne hep hier-p hippoz HO hydr-ac HYPER indg iod ip jab kali-ma KALI-N LACH LAT-M LED LOB-P lycps LYSS mag-m merc MOSCH NAT-M nux-v ph-ac plan PULS PYROG sac-alb samb sanic SENEG sep sima sisy spirae stram sul-ac TARENT-C THUJ tinos URT-U VIP

Generalities; wounds; bleeding; freely; black blood:
both-l vip
Skin; eruptions; vesicles; red; areola If you take red without the areola it is a very large rubric.

Skin; ulcers; bleeding; margins It sounds like you have bleeding under the skin. So this is probably the wrong rubric.

Generalities; wounds; bites Maybe too general
Generalities; wounds; bites; animals, of poisonous

Generalities; wounds; bleeding; freely; black blood You don't seem to have the bleeding, but seems like the blood is dark. That is strange, so even if the rubric doesn't fit I would look at the remedies there.

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear All

I am grateful for all your kind suggestions.
What is interesting is that the bite is under my sleeve! In a funny way, they look like ‘love-bites’!
In my youth, mosquitoes never attacked me. But of late I have been stung many times by them.
It could mosquito bite allergy!!

Pls see

http://www.mosquitomagnet.com/articles/ ... ig-problem
Thank you

Soroush

[Ellen Madono]

But would you and your daughter both be allergic? I would try a remedy if you are not on a constitutional.

[Rochelle]

I hope it wasn’t a tick??? (Because of the ring of bruising and ticks have this bulls eye ring)
Rochelle
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Subject: [Minutus] Insect bite/sting
Dear Colleagues

Both my daughter and I have been attacked by a creature. The injection/bite is visible as tiny and red.

Immediately afterwards it was really itchy.
However, with an inner radius of about 1 cm and out of about and inch there is an incomp lete ring of bruising!
Any ideas what may have attacked us please?
Regards

Soroush

[Dale Moss]

I’ve never heard or seen a tick bite create the bruising Soroush described. And the bulls-eye rash looks very different from bruising and tends to appear a week or more after the bite.

Peace,
Dale (5-time veteran of Lyme)

[Tanya Marquette]

There is not always bullseye with lyme ticks.

I did not have one both times I had Lyme. For me it was just red spot with some swelling.

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