why have I been labeled as a racist? I am not a don't appreciate the sullying of my name. THAT IS SLANDER.
Because I support Trump in the work he is trying to do I get labeled as a racist?
Sheri
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At 09:01 PM 11/30/2017, you wrote:
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
I guess it would be LIBEL as written word......................why have I been labeled as a racist? I am not a don't appreciate the sullying of my name. THAT IS SLANDER.
Because I support Trump in the work he is trying to do I get labeled as a racist?
Sheri
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At 09:01 PM 11/30/2017, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases
Because I support Trump in the work he is trying to do I get labeled as a racist?
Sheri
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At 09:01 PM 11/30/2017, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
I wouldn't let any such person bother you, Sheri. I would just
consider the source. This woman is quite obviously another entitled
racist, living in a bubble and a lie, who can do nothing else but
slander and hate. These types are pathetic. Many times, when I would
say that I do not like obama's communist policies, I would be told by
the ignorant ones it was because I am a racist. I just laugh off these
small minded haters who work so hard to keep us all divided.
And FYI, Lady, I said that obama presented a false birth certificate
to the American people. That is absolute fact. He did and there can be
no arguing it. Just do the research and you cannot help but reach the
same conclusion. obama, the CIA creation, was sired by Frank Marshall
Davis, a black communist pornographer who was living in Hawaii at the
time. Davis was American and also CIA. Davis wrote an autobiography in
which he bragged about having sex with a 13 year old girl. Look it up.
The guy from Kenya is not his father. That was pinned on him after his
mother, who was a so called CIA "honeypot", was given instructions to
find a sap to blame the pregnancy on. She seduced the guy from Kenya
and that is how he came into the picture. His name is listed as neing
obama's father. obama later wrote a book called, "Dreams From My
Father", in which he referenced the Kenyan guy as his father. That
book is believed to have been ghost-written by Bill Ayers, who along
with his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, as member so the Weather Underground
was convicted of bombing police cars in Chicago in the 1960's. In one
of those incidents, a policemen was killed but Ayers and Dohrn got off
with light sentences. Why? Because of their CIA connections. CIA is
synonymous with nwo. obama lived with the Ayers family in Chicago as a
foreign student in the 1980's I believe. In spite of that, obama, when
asked, told a reporter that he barely knew Ayers.
Birds of a feather flock together.
I wrote a long article on all of this years ago but I will not go into
that again. In it, I provided numerous links to prove that the Kenyan
secret services raided a hospital in Kenya and removed all birth
records from there between August 1 and August 6 of the year in
question which I think was 1960. All dates may be off as this was all
written years ago and I do not remember. Those who really care to do
so may look these things up. I also provided a link to an audio
recording of obama's grandmother (not) describing the birth of her
putative grandson, obama, in Kenya. The other grandparents (on the
white side) were also CIA communists but they were never in Kenya as
far as I know. The Kenyan father was an alcoholic who died in a car
accident and he was also a communist as I recall. It is too late to
look that up but you all can.
It is very late where I am and I am tired. I am going to bed. I just
wanted to answer this as you have obviously upset Sheri with your
dishonest and mean spirited accusations. Of course, that is typical of
the soulless left who only knows how to disagree most disagreeably and
who do and say the meanest and most destructive things possible.
Everyone who disagrees with you very low people is a racist but,
thankfully, more and more people are seeing through your tactics. Look
at the vile Antifa, which mirrors your tactics and spits on people,
sucker punching them and hitting them on the head with bike locks
solely because they are white or because they disagree with what they
said. It is not one in a thousand of those children who could even
define the word "fascist" but they go out of their way to hound,
harass, and harm anyone who does not see the world as they have been
taught to see it by people like you.
Wow, you who do these things are disgusting. I couldn't care less what
you say about me because I never have been and will never be one of
you hypocrites but Sheri used to belong to your dirty world. Thank God
she has seen the light and left that hateful place behind.
On 11/30/17, Sheri Nakken homeopathycuresyou@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote:
consider the source. This woman is quite obviously another entitled
racist, living in a bubble and a lie, who can do nothing else but
slander and hate. These types are pathetic. Many times, when I would
say that I do not like obama's communist policies, I would be told by
the ignorant ones it was because I am a racist. I just laugh off these
small minded haters who work so hard to keep us all divided.
And FYI, Lady, I said that obama presented a false birth certificate
to the American people. That is absolute fact. He did and there can be
no arguing it. Just do the research and you cannot help but reach the
same conclusion. obama, the CIA creation, was sired by Frank Marshall
Davis, a black communist pornographer who was living in Hawaii at the
time. Davis was American and also CIA. Davis wrote an autobiography in
which he bragged about having sex with a 13 year old girl. Look it up.
The guy from Kenya is not his father. That was pinned on him after his
mother, who was a so called CIA "honeypot", was given instructions to
find a sap to blame the pregnancy on. She seduced the guy from Kenya
and that is how he came into the picture. His name is listed as neing
obama's father. obama later wrote a book called, "Dreams From My
Father", in which he referenced the Kenyan guy as his father. That
book is believed to have been ghost-written by Bill Ayers, who along
with his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, as member so the Weather Underground
was convicted of bombing police cars in Chicago in the 1960's. In one
of those incidents, a policemen was killed but Ayers and Dohrn got off
with light sentences. Why? Because of their CIA connections. CIA is
synonymous with nwo. obama lived with the Ayers family in Chicago as a
foreign student in the 1980's I believe. In spite of that, obama, when
asked, told a reporter that he barely knew Ayers.
Birds of a feather flock together.
I wrote a long article on all of this years ago but I will not go into
that again. In it, I provided numerous links to prove that the Kenyan
secret services raided a hospital in Kenya and removed all birth
records from there between August 1 and August 6 of the year in
question which I think was 1960. All dates may be off as this was all
written years ago and I do not remember. Those who really care to do
so may look these things up. I also provided a link to an audio
recording of obama's grandmother (not) describing the birth of her
putative grandson, obama, in Kenya. The other grandparents (on the
white side) were also CIA communists but they were never in Kenya as
far as I know. The Kenyan father was an alcoholic who died in a car
accident and he was also a communist as I recall. It is too late to
look that up but you all can.
It is very late where I am and I am tired. I am going to bed. I just
wanted to answer this as you have obviously upset Sheri with your
dishonest and mean spirited accusations. Of course, that is typical of
the soulless left who only knows how to disagree most disagreeably and
who do and say the meanest and most destructive things possible.
Everyone who disagrees with you very low people is a racist but,
thankfully, more and more people are seeing through your tactics. Look
at the vile Antifa, which mirrors your tactics and spits on people,
sucker punching them and hitting them on the head with bike locks
solely because they are white or because they disagree with what they
said. It is not one in a thousand of those children who could even
define the word "fascist" but they go out of their way to hound,
harass, and harm anyone who does not see the world as they have been
taught to see it by people like you.
Wow, you who do these things are disgusting. I couldn't care less what
you say about me because I never have been and will never be one of
you hypocrites but Sheri used to belong to your dirty world. Thank God
she has seen the light and left that hateful place behind.
On 11/30/17, Sheri Nakken homeopathycuresyou@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote:
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
at the very least, you support a flagrant racist. however, as stated, you are racist by default of your white skin privilege which support racist structures. You neither acknowledge your privilege, nor describe any practice to thwart racism. As for the work of trump? what humanitarian work is he doing. A spoiled, very rich, raised as a racist, supporter of neo-nazis and other white supremacists, intentional destroyer of govt programs that improve the lives of many, supporter of the swamp in which he lives, etc is the only work that he is doing. A tool of the corporate elite himself who is supporting dictators with whom he is doing personal business with for his personal aggrandizement--the only thing he is doing is flagrantly demonstrating the disgusting being that he is! And slander?
You have been name calling on this list with your rageful posts of pure ignorance.
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You have been name calling on this list with your rageful posts of pure ignorance.
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
Wow,
The logic in all of these posts is strange. "You are xx (implying you belong to a despicable group of people) because of association, rumor, skin color or whatever."
Do you all do homeopathy? I find it hard to believe that any of you can judge others in this way and think about what really affects the patient. Do you become different people when you talk to patients?
Baffled and Scared,
Ellen Madono
The logic in all of these posts is strange. "You are xx (implying you belong to a despicable group of people) because of association, rumor, skin color or whatever."
Do you all do homeopathy? I find it hard to believe that any of you can judge others in this way and think about what really affects the patient. Do you become different people when you talk to patients?
Baffled and Scared,
Ellen Madono
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
Ellen
From my point of view, it is hard to imagine people taking cases with such intimate information and not understanding the nature of who they are and how they got that way. I must say that you show how little you are understanding of what I have written. It is not that people are part of a despicable group when talking about racism, but understanding how people are socialized into belief systems without their conscious understanding. The issue is that as adults we become responsible for undoing that learning. If you are baffled and scared, it should be a good wake up call for understanding things that you were never meant to know. Should not be that big an issue. You have studied homeopathy which is based on a belief system that you were never meant to know but you are comfortable having gotten here and are desirous to learn more. Understanding racism, how is was developed, why is was developed and how it works should be just as meaningful a study. It has everything to do with how you understand what is happening in the world today. And you are moving back to the US where the issue is front and center due to a president who support the KKK and neo-nazis. I will say this current turn of events has created massive stress for many people, especially people of color. It is severe enough to be akin to PTSD for some people with people having nightmares and acute anxiety. If you have people who come to you with such feelings how can you even begin to work with them if you have no idea what is going on?
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From my point of view, it is hard to imagine people taking cases with such intimate information and not understanding the nature of who they are and how they got that way. I must say that you show how little you are understanding of what I have written. It is not that people are part of a despicable group when talking about racism, but understanding how people are socialized into belief systems without their conscious understanding. The issue is that as adults we become responsible for undoing that learning. If you are baffled and scared, it should be a good wake up call for understanding things that you were never meant to know. Should not be that big an issue. You have studied homeopathy which is based on a belief system that you were never meant to know but you are comfortable having gotten here and are desirous to learn more. Understanding racism, how is was developed, why is was developed and how it works should be just as meaningful a study. It has everything to do with how you understand what is happening in the world today. And you are moving back to the US where the issue is front and center due to a president who support the KKK and neo-nazis. I will say this current turn of events has created massive stress for many people, especially people of color. It is severe enough to be akin to PTSD for some people with people having nightmares and acute anxiety. If you have people who come to you with such feelings how can you even begin to work with them if you have no idea what is going on?
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
Tanya,
You are talking to an individual when you write an email, I guess you see individuals purely as social phenomena. I am fundamentally against such a philosophy. I could never work on cases with such a belief.
Best,
Ellen Madono
You are talking to an individual when you write an email, I guess you see individuals purely as social phenomena. I am fundamentally against such a philosophy. I could never work on cases with such a belief.
Best,
Ellen Madono
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
Ellen--you are not understanding. People are the result of the socialization processes which include the teaching of belief systems. You are not separate from the culture in which you were raised with all its belief systems and cultural baggage. If you are not conscious of what these are and how it works and what the goals are you will never be able to rise above those teachings. When you work with people you are always filtering what you see and hear from them thru your own personal filters which have developed within the confines of the culture or society around you. How can you possibly develop personal consciousness if you are not understanding the influences upon yourself.
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
I’m talking about how you address a person who doesn’t agree with you but is addressing you as an individual. I think you spoke out without being addressed so maybe that is not exactly the situation. In any case, you know that an individual is making statements and purports to be speaking to an individual. No amount of social analysis based on statistics or being right because you have all the right information is going to substitute with addressing the complex individual who is at the other end of the email message.
If you are putting a ballot into a voting machine, I would suggest you look at this statistical evidence that stands behind the individual who you were voting for. In that case I would say your approach is appropriate.
In this case, you were talking to an individual who is spewing out prepackage statements. By this, I mean the statements are not well thought out, and very likely they don’t even represent what this person thinking or feeling at a very deep level. You going to need a lot more communication in order to find out what is actually intended by the message. I would avoid meeting such discourse at the same level. It is just too crude.
Why am I so labeling this discourse as Crude. If You read that all Pulsatilla’s are pretty and have blond hair, you know that’s a crude statement based on very limited experience. It’s probably was statistically true in northern Europe of 200 years ago. It’s probably not even statistically true now in northern Europe. Maybe in your experience Nux vomica’s are sexist. Is that a good assumption even if it’s statistically true in your particular environment?
If you are putting a ballot into a voting machine, I would suggest you look at this statistical evidence that stands behind the individual who you were voting for. In that case I would say your approach is appropriate.
In this case, you were talking to an individual who is spewing out prepackage statements. By this, I mean the statements are not well thought out, and very likely they don’t even represent what this person thinking or feeling at a very deep level. You going to need a lot more communication in order to find out what is actually intended by the message. I would avoid meeting such discourse at the same level. It is just too crude.
Why am I so labeling this discourse as Crude. If You read that all Pulsatilla’s are pretty and have blond hair, you know that’s a crude statement based on very limited experience. It’s probably was statistically true in northern Europe of 200 years ago. It’s probably not even statistically true now in northern Europe. Maybe in your experience Nux vomica’s are sexist. Is that a good assumption even if it’s statistically true in your particular environment?
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Re: Labeling me as a racist Tamara, wasPutin
But when you talk to an individual you are also using your internal data base to understand what they are discussing.
If you are dealing with someone from a different culture you can behave in an ethnocentric manner projecting your cultural experiences on them which most likely will make you wrong as well as biased or prejudiced. But if you are aware that your cultural socialization is not always true for others you might have the awareness to question them more deeply about their feelings and perceptions. And on a larger level, if you are listening to the news or watching a public event or hearing many people describing their problems you might have the understanding that their life experiences are equally valid, true but different than yours as the result of socially constructed institutions and learned attitudes that are based on racism/sexism/classism/etc. Your behavior and responses to news events and individuals will be very different if you understand the nature of the culture and its prejudices and social hierarchies and how they work.
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If you are dealing with someone from a different culture you can behave in an ethnocentric manner projecting your cultural experiences on them which most likely will make you wrong as well as biased or prejudiced. But if you are aware that your cultural socialization is not always true for others you might have the awareness to question them more deeply about their feelings and perceptions. And on a larger level, if you are listening to the news or watching a public event or hearing many people describing their problems you might have the understanding that their life experiences are equally valid, true but different than yours as the result of socially constructed institutions and learned attitudes that are based on racism/sexism/classism/etc. Your behavior and responses to news events and individuals will be very different if you understand the nature of the culture and its prejudices and social hierarchies and how they work.
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