Does coffee antidote homeopathic medicines?

[Dana Ullman, MPH]

Friends,

Some homeopaths claim that coffee antidotes homeopathic medicines, though many of us have confirmed that this rarely happens. Further, the fact that so many homeopathic patients in France and Italy are regular consumers of coffee, it is unlikely that coffee creates a problem for most people taking homeopathic medicines. That said, there are probably certain remedies with which coffee does possibly interfere...and this study (below) shows that coffee consumption may interfere with pain management in the treatment of mice:

https://nccih.nih.gov/research/results/ ... e?nav=govd

What are your REAL experiences with coffee as an antidote? I'm not interested in theory, only real experiences.

--Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH
www.homeopathic.com
www.HomeopathicFamilyMedicine.com

[Carol Orr]

I had a friend in the seventies whose remedy was rhus tox. I'm not sure what
her issues were but rhus would always bring her symptoms from upward down to
her feet and then disappear. After a few months, though it could have been
longer than that... she would desire coffee and so she would drink that for a
while and then her symptoms would come back. She would go back to the doctor
and get another dose of rhus. I think she did this around 3 or 4 times into
the eighties. I didn't see her for a while and she graduated to calc carb, or
was demoted(?)…and eventually she stopped homeopathy . The rest of the story
is too sad to tell.

[Elizabeth Brandegee]

I have seen many situations of coffee antidoting or lessening the benefit of a remedy in 20 yrs. experience with a wide range of remedies that were doing well prior.
I accidentally antidoted my youngest with it when nursing when his cradle cap was 90% better prior to that.
It's commonly intentionally used to antidote a remedy proving or harsh aggravation.
Elizabeth
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I had a friend in the seventies whose remedy was rhus tox. I'm not sure what
her issues were but rhus would always bring her symptoms from upward down to
her feet and then disappear. After a few months, though it could have been
longer than that... she would desire coffee and so she would drink that for a
while and then her symptoms would come back. She would go back to the doctor
and get another dose of rhus. I think she did this around 3 or 4 times into
the eighties. I didn't see her for a while and she graduated to calc carb, or
was demoted(?)…and eventually she stopped homeopathy . The rest of the story
is too sad to tell.

[Tanya Marquette]

I think it varies by the individual. I once antidoted a remedy with a made-with-real coffee candy without thinking.

A woman who was on a good remedy antidoted it with coffee. However, another woman who was having a super

strong response to the remedy couldn't undo or subdue its effects no matter how much coffee she drank.
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[UK Homoeopathy]

Hello
I have had no negative experience with my patients taking coffee... however I do tell them to leave a min of 15 mins gap before taking any food, drink (except water) and toothpaste etc.
So unless coffee is the issue, I just tell them to reduce caffeine in general anyway.

Regards
Mohamed Caffoor
ukhomeopathy.co.uk
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[Maria Bohle]

Years ago when I was not a regular coffee drinker I antidoted a good remedy with it. Now I do drink coffee daily and does not seem to bother my remedies. Perhaps it has more to do with what we are used to.
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[John Benneth]

The symptoms of Coffea tosta. have been principally obtained from sensitive persons on whom strong coffee has acted injuriously; and the clinical uses have been mainly based on these. But a word must be said about the antidotal effects of Coffee. As an allopathic antidote to Opium in poisonous doses its value is well known. In addition to Opium and its derivatives it counteracts the effects of Nux vomica, Belladonna, narcotic mushrooms, poisonous sumach, tobacco, bitter almonds, Prussic acid, Coloc., Valer., Cicuta, Chamom., salts of Antimony, Lead, Phosphorus, Phosphoric acid. On account of its extensive antidotal properties Coffee has largely been condemned by homœopathic practitioners; but it should be remembered that it does not antidote all other medicines, and it is questionable if it counteracts the effect of many of the above-named drugs when they are given in high potencies. In any case it is desirable to forbid its use when Bell., Cham., Coloc., Ignat., Lyc., and Nux are being given.
Coffea cruda is antidote to: Bell., Cham., Cicut., Coloc., Lyc., Nux v., Strych., Valer.

[Maria Bohle]

Hi John, thanks for sharing this. I would add Calc carb to this list. That was the remedy I antidoted with one cup of very poor coffee.

[Bob Needham]

Tks John for the information on Coffee. Given the variety of experiences beyond the select forbidden list sited in this and other threads it does seem that the effective relationship between coffee and patient can be somewhat of a random crap shoot relating to a patient's constitutional profile state and the selected remedy. As such, the old adage, "When in Doubt Stay Out" seems to apply very well here.

bob
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[Shannon Nelson]

Somewhere I read that… I *think* the remedy is Angostura? will remove a craving for coffee.

I have one friend who (all years back) remarked that she was drinking up to I think ten cups a day — and she’s a tiny thing! — and was starting to worry that it was a bit too much, but when she tried to cut back, she got horrible headaches. I mentioned the remedy, which she was delighted to try (a few doses of 12c the first time; and for a future episode I think one or two doses of 30c), and By Gum, It Worked!!!

No more craving for coffee; she kept drinking some, but only one or a few cups in a day instead of 10, and no headaches!

I can’t get at my materials now, but can anyone confirm that it’s Angostura? I think I’d read it in ReferenceWorka, but not certain. Has anyone else here had any experience with that?

Shannon