NESH Countdown: Week #1

Ellen Madono · Post by **Ellen Madono** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:57 pm

Hi,

I highly recommend learning from Dr. Herscu. He teaches solid classical homeopathy giving the whole process of case-taking, provings and remedy selection simple coherence. The logic of homeopathic is not a bunch of unrelated concepts. It is really simple. I am sure that he will teach you Cycles and Segments and you will understand even if you are a raw beginner. I took his 6-week course with WHN years ago and have been following his letters since then. The following 10-week course is free. You can sign up by contacting Kim McGuire. kmcguire@nesh.com

Best,
Ellen Madono

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From: Kim McGuire >
Date: Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:00 AM
Subject: NESH Countdown: Week #1
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Greetings,

We are excited to launch Content Countdown to NESH 2018 with Drs. Amy Rothenberg ND and Paul Herscu ND, MPH. Thank you for signing up to participate. Series began on Thursday July 12th, but we are happy to catch you up on what you missed.
You will receive an email directly from me every other week starting with this one below. Each of these seven emails will vary in length and focus. The written, audio, or video selections will highlight the heart of homeopathy and its power and efficacy in practice. Think of this as a taster “mini-course” into the vitalistic tradition of homeopathy. Get a sense of what we teach & how we do it.
If you know of anyone who might be interested in joining us over the next few months for this free email series, they can get more information and sign up here: www.nesh.com/countdown
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July 12, 2018
Welcome to Content Countdown to NESH 2018: Week #1 of 7
Cycles & Segments, as articulated by Drs. Herscu and Rothenberg , is a systems dynamics approach to classical homeopathy. It informs all aspects of practice and is an elegant method you can use regardless of your homeopathic education or experience. It offers a practical way of organizing and analyzing information in the case histories we glean from patients as well as details which appear in our remedy descriptions. This approach provides for an integrated study of homeopathy without the cumbersome memorization of long lists of individual symptoms, which allows for more efficient and focused case taking and analysis.

Why Learn The Cycles and Segments Approach to Homeopathy:
* Offers a philosophical approach that clarifies what happens in practice
* Streamlines case taking
* Presents materia medica in an organized, concise way
* Leads to logical repertory use; prevents errors
* Guides case analysis with a strong consistent philosophy
* For beginners: fast learning curve that emphasizes organization & understanding
* For more experienced practitioners: helps prevent common & challenging mistakes

Our goal over this seven part series it to introduce you to this approach.
We'd like to jump right in to show you this approach "in action" by sharing a case written by Dr. Amy Rothenberg, entitled A Case of Severe Vertigo: A Cycles and Segments Approach . You will notice screen shots throughout which illustrate how she repertorized the case. The use of a computer program is not essential for practice but is it one of the tools used by Drs. Herscu & Rothenberg in both their teaching and clinic.

For those of you who are not familiar with the Cycles & Segments approach, you might consider reading this seminar review first, as it provides a basic over-view to help put the case in context.
Until next time, we leave you with a thought from one of our NESH alumni, Eric Doerfler Ph.D., CRNP, CCH (Pennsylvania):

"The system of Cycles and Segments provides an elegant explanation for homeopathic proving data that otherwise seems contradictory. The result is case taking and prescribing that goes beyond “pattern recognition” and offers the potential to move classical homeopathy to a higher level of reliability in practice. I have certainly found that to be the case in my practice. I now recommend study with at NESH to all serious students of classical homeopathy."

All my best, Kim

Kim McGuire
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Ellen Madono · Post by **Ellen Madono** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:38 pm

Sorry. Don't contact Kim. Go here to sign up. http://www.nesh.com/course-seminar-offerings/ Honestly, I am a bit unclear about the details. Sorry.

Rochelle · Post by **Rochelle** » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:08 pm

Here is the link I signed up with

http://www.nesh.com/countdown/
I’ve been to a few weekend seminars with Paul and although he is a wonderful teacher I have a big problem in that I don’t seem to be able to come up with the same remedy as he does for the cases he takes at the seminar. This leaves me very frustrated!!!
Rochelle

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Sorry. Don't contact Kim. Go here to sign up. http://www.nesh.com/course-seminar-offerings/ Honestly, I am a bit unclear about the details. Sorry.

Ellen Madono · Post by **Ellen Madono** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:08 am

Hi Rochelle,

That would frustrate me too. I would like to get the same answer as Paul and he says most people do, but I am not so hung up on being perfect. I am not sure getting the same answer is the gold standard of understanding. I am probably not so different from you in that I have spent a long time studying him. I have not had the luxury of attending a seminar taught by Dr. Herscu, but I have use C&S since about 2005 and have read everything he has written as well as doing his letter's program and the WHN seminar that he taught for 6 weeks.

I use the software that comes with Radar. Always the software brings up a priority list of remedies that is much shorter than typical analysis. I just feel that the C&S list is also better than a single dimension list. In simple repertorization, the logical relationship between rubrics is unclear.

I have done a lot of study of the 5 elements, 8 branches of the Mappa Mundie. What happens is the relationship between physical symptoms and the metaphysical become clearer, or I have a better imagination. I am working on the Enneagram now hoping for similar results but because of the lack of relationship between the physical and the metaphysical, I am getting the feeling that I am doing something very different with the Enneagram.

Jeremy Sherr suggests that we should always do Pre-analysis. I am very faithful to his pre-analysis procedure. I try to make those physical and metaphysical relationships. Also, the time or causal relationships between symptom groups is essential. (the essence of Herscu's Cycles and Segments.) Because of the way I took the case (a lack of necessary detail), I don't necessarily get a full Herscu cycle, but I do get relationships between groups of symptoms, and even if I am dissatisfied with the clarity of my pre-analysis, it is better than no pre-analysis.

Jeremy says you can even use a 3 element system. Sometimes three groups are the most that I can manage to get out of a case.

According to Jeremy, pre-analysis is the messy paper and colored pencils stage. I am not so artistic and I just scribble. (I also have a program for laying out tiles called Tinderbox, but it is expensive and only an analysis nut like me would care to invest.)

So, when I clearly have a cycle, then I use the cycles and segment software of Radar. If not, I just group symptoms. Just grouping symptoms is not nearly as accurate as a clear S&C logic. But, as I say, pre-analysis in any form is better than no analysis.

This is all a long way of saying that Paul helps us to understand the best form of pre-analysis. If you can't get there, try to get at least half way.

It has taken me years to think this way, but when I read about a remedy in the MM or provings, I am also doing the pre-analysis routine (either formally or in my head). Paul lays out the reason behind the coherence between Remedy description, Proving and Case. This makes the logic of homeopathy so much simpler.

Best,
Ellen

Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD · Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:44 am

Do you all remember that well advertised conference in Bruges? Biiiig gurus there....I have been told (but weirdly have not seen anything written about that) that a paper case was given to them with the request to find the remedy according to their own system that they push so hard (Sankaran, Scholten and others...).

The results: each one of them had a different prescription, a different remedy but each remedy had a logical and coherent explanation according to the system used....

Fast forward to my system, which is that I do not have a system but keep writing that there is no SINGLE and UNIQUE Simillimum, but multiple possible ones depending how you approach and understand the patient. The Simillimum used is very much dependent upon the practitioner, not only the patient, at least with the modern methods; this is what Hahnemann meant (IMO) by writing about being an impartial, unbiased observer. If I could give a name to my system it would be Simplicity, but it actually nothing else but Boenninghausen slightly expanded.

Isn't the first thing we are taught when we start taking cases "shut up and listen"? then clarify what the patient means, then look for the remedy that comes up. Only then should we go to the more sophisticated methods (and not only one at a time) to confirm our prescription if at all need be. Why start with methods that are beautifully crafted and very logical on their own but still have plenty of limitations...yes I know, many cases that were blocked and not moving with the "traditional" approach were solved with those new methods, but that is the proper way to go, from simple to elaborate.

That is my opinion....mind you, I am just a freaking lissencephalic simpleton of a surgeon trying to sound intellectual....duh...

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Ellen Madono · Post by **Ellen Madono** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:06 am

Dr. Roz,

You can be brilliant following your own good instincts. I am not you. Yes, I agree that there are many roads to Rome.

For me personally, I am so easily confused, it’s important for me to stay organized so I know what I’m thinking. That’s why I don’t get so stuck on the one and only pre-analysis method. I am stuck on knowing what I’m thinking even if it’s temporary and experimental.
Paul actually had a large group of students of Vithoukas deliver their many different solutions to the central podium after Vithoulkas described a cured case. Then Paul showed everyone how he analyzes any case. Interestingly, everyone in the group came up with the same remedy when they followed Paul’s methodology. Probably Rochelle and I would come up with a different remedy. Ha ha. Perhaps the same thing would happen if another person described his methodology. And the remedy could very well be different from Paul’s or Vitholkas’.

Paul offers some very good ideas about how and why you would do pre analysis. Even if you didn’t follow him exactly, if you’re not used to doing pre-analysis, I think you could benefit from listening to Paul.

Even if you are a surgeon, my guess is you would analyze the evidence before you opened up the body. You would be expecting several different scenarios because you did that pre-analysis. There’s nothing simple about being an intellectual hanging out in the wind open to whatever. I’m going to choose a surgeon who can study the evidence before he does his surgery. And then he should have the ability to make snap judgments out of pure intelligence once he’s in the middle of the body or the middle of a case.

Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:14 am

Who said I didn't study and try his method? Like I did with most of the others (haven't yet gone through Yakir's one, cannot afford her book...).

I am not saying to anyone not to study and evaluate ALL those technique, far from that. What I am saying is do not get stuck in any of them, complicating life when it is sometimes the simplest of the approaches that leads to the best results.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Shannon Nelson · Post by **Shannon Nelson** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:43 am

Lol I followed you right up until lissencephalic.

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD · Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:53 am

Smooth cortex..... 8-)O:-)
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Ellen Madono · Post by **Ellen Madono** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:08 am

Yeah. Like I knew the remedy just looking at him.

Btw, have you tried Polarity Analysis? that’s really simple and cheap.