so-called Conspiracy Theory was Ebola 2

[Angela McGuire]

Single payer is simply Medicare or Medicaid. Not that complicated.

Angie

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[Tanya Marquette]

at the time of the passing of the ACA 60% of Americans were under Single Payer: all govt employees,
the military, Congress and State legislatures, as well as Medicaid and Medicare. the argument was a phony
one all designed to build greater insurance company share of the public wealth. that was a conspiracy—a plan
sold to the public under false pretenses.

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[Roger B]

We may have had "single payer" in some economic sense or in theory for 60% of the population, but in a practical sense, it was (and is worse now) kafkaesque. Even with Medicare you have to carry this card around with you. And what about my son, who should have been covered by part of the single payer system. He is no longer covered because the system detected a jump skyward in our income because my wife worked a Summer school session. It was OK for them to spy on our bank account, but they couldn't be bothered to call us and ask us what happened and be told that it was only a single monthly increase. And if we bothered to go and re-enroll, then if we forgot a document at home, we would have to drive 12 miles back home and get it. And then my wife got a slight raise and I just said to hell with it; it isn't worth the frustration, gasoline, and the good chance that we would get turned down again. The system sucks, and Obamacare only makes it worse. Single payer is and should be you get sick, you go into the doctor's office, you are served, you leave the doctor's office. Having to take classes on how to deal with Medicare is not my idea of single payer.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 18:33:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] so-called Conspiracy Theory was Ebola 2

at the time of the passing of the ACA 60% of Americans were under Single Payer: all govt employees,

the military, Congress and State legislatures, as well as Medicaid and Medicare. the argument was a phony
one all designed to build greater insurance company share of the public wealth. that was a conspiracy—a plan
sold to the public under false pretenses.

t
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[Roger B]

There is nothing simple about Medicare if we need classes and go-betweens to understand how it works. The story of my son should suffice. I like the idea of single payer. We don't have anything close to single payer. We have more like "Franz Kafka on way too much coffee" payer.

England has single payer. You are sick. You go into the doctors office. You sit there. You get served. You leave. That is single payer; that is simplicity.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 13:55:01 -0700
Subject: Re: [Minutus] so-called Conspiracy Theory was Ebola 2
Single payer is simply Medicare or Medicaid. Not that complicated.

Angie