Blocked arteries in the leg and vit k2/and question about spinach.

[Carol Orr]

Some of you may remember that two years ago I wrote about my husband's blocked
artery in his leg. The doctors gave him statins and something to widen his
arteries. Instead, I gave him hawthorne tincture and while I tried to get him
to eat Natto because it had such a high k2 factor...he gagged...so I gave it
to him in a pill form(made from natto). I mistaken believed that because he
drank so much heated milk all day long with a teaspoon of instant
coffee...that it was the milk that was giving him the problem. Each doctor
said that was not true. After 3 months on the hawthorne and k2 his leg stopped
hurting when he walked more that ten feet and the doctors said he didn't need
a stint or to be roto-rootered. Later, I realised after the information came
out in several places about K2 being needed with D vitamin supplements....I
realized that it was the added D in the milk and not the milk itself which was
calcifying his arteries. What I don't know is whether the hawthorne tincture
played a vital role in this reduction or not. His leg got worse again a year
later but not as bad as the first time and I have to force feed him the vit k2
pills...he won't take them on his own.. but I have left out the hawthorne
tincture this time. So if there is no change after 3 months of just the K2...I
will know to add the hawthorne tincture again.

Meanwhile, I have a question about eating spinach. It has been said that
eating spinach without a dairy is not good...because spinach alone sucks the
calcium out of one's body and one needs to add some dairy/cheese when eating
spinach to add the calcium that one is going to lose. But I'm wondering...does
the spinach suck the calcification out of the arteries or the calcium out of
the bone or both.

[Tanya Marquette]

the issue with spinach that is 'popular medical info' is that the Vit K will
cause blood clots so people on blood thinners or at risk for arterial clogging
should not eat it.

again not dealing with the problem but imposing a solution that can cause other
dire consequences.

t

[healthinfo6]

I've found Pycnogenol 30-50mg daily very helpful for leg issues.
Reduces pain and swelling.
Gave it to someone who was told they may have lymphedema as legs were enlarging, diuretiics didn't help
Pycnogenol did.
Susan

[Irene de Villiers]

It is back to front - SPinach prevents the calcium from leaving the bones.
It does not add calcium.
(The two need to be in balance)

Spinach actually has plenty of calcium but it tends to bind with oxalic acid, so calcium is better absorbed from another source.

The diet needs to have calcium at some point, but not necessarily at the same time as spinach, which provides Vit K and other minerals.
Spinach cannot suck anything out of anywhere:-)

Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

I was told that but find the opposite to be true. VIt K works when it needs to do so, not otherwise.
those on Coumadin which works by causign a VIt K deficiency
Two newer "thinners" work differently
as always.
After the stroke I had, I used Vit E, fish oil and plenty of Vit K (whether you count the dandelions the eggs or the gut bacteria as source).
No clots. No plavix, no coumadin no statins.
If anything I bleed quite easily, though that is most likely to do with thin skin.
.......Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Tanya Marquette]

I am not supporting the medical industry 'wisdom.' Just noting that it tells people
to do things that are clearly unhealthy and dangerous.

t

[Irene de Villiers]

Wow people are all SO touchy!
Nobody said you did:-)
Clearly.
I merely added a personal opinion to that.

Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."