Hypothyroidism

[M. Irfan Qureshi]

I am a practicing homeopath. I request the group to please list probable homeopathic remedies which have been commonly in their use, and/or Oedema as dominating symptom. Dr. Mohammad Irfan Qureshi

[Vicki Satta]

Doctor: is this a human or pet case of hypothyroidism?

Vicki
Do
Do

[sanjay gupta]

for hypothyroidism use, KALI CARB,NAT CARB, THYROIDINUM,STAPH,NUXVOM, acording to symptom\cause indication
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I am a practicing homeopath. I request the group to please list probable homeopathic remedies which have been commonly in their use, and/or Oedema as dominating symptom. Dr. Mohammad Irfan Qureshi

[Irene de Villiers]

A practicing homeopath would know that there is no such thing as aremedy "for hypothyroidism" or any other condition ............as one has to select remedy options based on causation and individualization.

In other words I suggest repertorizing it in the usual way.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Makes no difference Vicki:-)

Homeopathy is not dependent on physical structure or metabolism of the species.
It works the same in people, plants and animals.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[M. Irfan Qureshi]

Vicki, it is 40 years old woman's case.

[M. Irfan Qureshi]

Irene, I am glad to have your response and fully agree with your opinion.

Talking on Hypothyroidism or any such disease which have some particular symptoms help us to form in our mind a group of probable remedies. As such we are able to choose the most suitable remedy based on peculiar, unique or any other guiding symptom/s. Experience of fellow doctors may help to reach the desired remedy in a shorter time. Repertory certainly helps us if we are able to choose symptoms with sensation, location and modality. Otherwise, we are pushed to poly crest remedies.

You and other group fellows may help me to form such group of medicines from which I may be able to choose the best possible one. Oedema, as stated, is the dominant complaint of the 40 years old lady.

[Rochelle Marsden]

Clinical; hypothyroidism: (38) absin, AETH, ANAC, ange-s, arn, aur, bac, bar-c, BUFO, calc, calc-p, carc, cortico, cortiso, ferr-i, flor-p, hell, ign, iod, kali-c, lant-p, LAP-A, levo, lol, nat-c, neod, nux-v, oxyt, ph-ac, plb, rib-ac, sulfa, sulph, thal, thiop, THUJ, THYR, tub,

Clinical; EDEMA, general; external (93) acet-ac, agar, ANT-C, ant-t, APIS, APOC, ARS, ars-i, asc-c, aur, aur-m, bell, bism, bry, cact, calad, calc, calc-ar, camph, canth, carbn-s, card-m, cedr, chel, CHIN, chin-ar, cinnb, coca, COLCH, coll, coloc, con, conv, cop, crot-h, DIG, dulc, equis, euph, eup-pur, ferr, ferr-ar, ferr-i, ferr-p, GRAPH, guai, HELL, hyos, IOD, kali-ar, kali-c, kali-i, kali-n, kali-p, kali-s, lac-d, lach, led, liatr, lyc, MED, merc, mez, mur-ac, nat-ar, nat-c, nit-ac, nux-m, OLND, OP, phos, pic-ac, plat, plb, puls, rhod, rhus-t, ruta, sabin, samb, sars, sec, seneg, sep, sil, SQUIL, stram, sulph, TER, teucr, verat, verb, zinc,
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Subject: [Minutus] Re: Hypothyroidism
Irene, I am glad to have your response and fully agree with your opinion.
Talking on Hypothyroidism or any such disease which have some particular symptoms help us to form in our mind a group of probable remedies. As such we are able to choose the most suitable remedy based on peculiar, unique or any other guiding symptom/s. Experience of fellow doctors may help to reach the desired remedy in a shorter time. Repertory certainly helps us if we are able to choose symptoms with sensation, location and modality. Otherwise, we are pushed to poly crest remedies.
You and other group fellows may help me to form such group of medicines from which I may be able to choose the best possible one. Oedema, as stated, is the dominant complaint of the 40 years old lady.

[Irene de Villiers]

Unfortunately, that can be done. It should never be done.
Any good repertory will list some remedies under a hypothyroid rubric as also under an edema rubric.
But using them to choose from is backwards and bad practice, and will not address any chronic disease in a meaningful way.

You can play that game with acute conditions, not chronic ones with a wide variety of causes such as hypothyroidism or edema - which do not necessarily go together and may have separate causes needing analysis.
No becasue the list under hypothyroidism will NOT be complete by any stretch of imagination, and becasue in any chronic illness you must start with a list of patient symptoms and NOT with a list of supposed "hypothyroid options".

Nothing in your hypothyroid list will fix a person who is nutritionally deficient in iodine for example, or who has poisoned the thyroid with fluoridated water drinking forced on them by their city water system. (It does not filter out). Nor will it fix hypothyroidism as a secondary effect of another condition - which my well be the case with edema around.
Many conditions will cause hypothyroidism as a symptom of the main condition. That is the very nature of chronic conditions. No hypothyroid remedy option will address that.

For example a high cortisol level will cause hypothyroidism by making inactive T3 from T4. Both T3 and T4 will read normal on lab test.
Until you addrerss that underlying cortisol maintaining cause you will not go near fixing hypothyroidism no matter how many past case remedies you look at. It is backwards. The remedy needed here has nothing to do with hypothyroidism. And so it is in most chronic cases. There are no short cuts in chrnic cases., You cannot be a good homeopath by applying allopathic "choose from these remedies" approaches in chrinc disease homeopathy.
You need to start with the maintaining cause, not the apparent result.

Helping someone with a chronic disease is not a game or an allopthic exercise to be done in a hurry. It is the wrong profession for that. It needs proper analysis of the maintaining cause at the very least, before assembling features to use in pointing out the matched-to-symptoms remedy - which has every chance of being one never used in hypothyroidism or edema before. That is the nature of chronic disease. You cannot use a list of previously used remedies in chronic conditions, as a shortcut to a remedy choice.

There is no genus epidemicus as in acutes, and hypothyroidism is not an acute condition.
Not so. A correct remedy cannot be obtained that way round in chronic conditions.
It has to be obtained starting with symptoms of patient and not with a list of presumed remedy options.
Step one is to analyse the case for maintaining cause.
Step two is to list features that are salient.
Step three is to convert those features to rubrics.
Only then do you go anywhere near a repertory, to look up those rubrics.
It would be very unprofessional to attempt such a list.
Work the case the right way round.
Look for WHY there is oedema, WHY there is hypothyroidism.
Start there. Those are reasons not remedies, and that is the right way round to work.
The reasons will lead to correct remedy.
That is homeopathy.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[M. Irfan Qureshi]

Thank you, Rachelle, for your help.