Fibonacci / F-series question

[Shannon Nelson]

Speaking of F-series (and we were, weren't we?) -- question for Joe and / or others who use them.

Forgive me if this is in the book. If someone has already taken a high potency dose, do you have any waiting guidelines to begin with F potencies? I'm assuming it won't matter (and if the prior dose is acting well, obviously one would wait) but in a fit of OCD thought I would ask.

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Actually, no, I do not wait, unless as you say there is still some action...then when the action stops, I retake the case to see if the patient still needs the same remedy, no automatic repetition.

But if the same remedy is still indicated, then I start immediately at the lowest potency available and safe to give.

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

[Irene de Villiers]

I do not wait. Starting very low potency I see it as a replacement dose in any case.

There is a situaton in which i would not go down in potency though.
If for example I had my cat on 30C becasue 6C was unavaiable, and they were showing progress in a life threatening situation, I would then go to 34C not go down. The reason is that I would not want to antidote a working remedy in this situation with a very low potency that MIGHT not be sufficiently active against the strong disease - and for which there might not be time to work up from say 5C to 8C to 13C fast enough to "pick up the pieces".
Where life is not at risk, I'd go down to get the benefit of the F series from say 5C with its multiiplier effect.

In the case of the one with 30C going to 34C, once the situation was less dire, and some healing had occurred and if it looked needed, I could then go down to pick up what the low potencies may do that was missed. I'd only do that if I did not see full resolution at 233C.
i.e. hardly ever.
...Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks, that's a useful reminder, not to assume that "not much response" would *necessarily* leave the person within the same remedy, so wait for a stable picture and re-take the case.
Shannon

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Irene, good thoughts!

I'm curious, tho, whether you have actually *seen* a low potency really *stop* (antidote) the action of a higher potency? I haven't, but I don't have that many examples to draw from. In a few cases I had the person use low potency doses as needed to *moderate* the over-action of a high potency dose, and it all worked out very well.

So I have wondered, if it had been aggravation from a wrong remedy, maybe the low potency would have stopped the action rather than just supporting or moderating it? Just wondering…

Shannon

[Irene de Villiers]

Yes I have and the cat nearly died as a result.
Gave me a huge lesson. This was a cat near death to start with, (and when I was quite new to F series) - but that low life force is all the more reason to understand just what a sudden lower potency can do.
Ideally one wants to start low and go up very gradually in severe disease - and with well monitored doses all the way. Nothing drastic like a 30C to 5C change.
A one drop dose of the next lower F series works well. So does Rescue Remedy, a few drops in water, succussed, and dosed from there as needed.
IN the above case, no. I had started 30C for want of a low potency, to get SOME remedy used before the cat died; I am sure of the remedy selected, but was shocked at the backsliding in progress when going 30C to 5C, in order to follow F series - at the time, was doing it just for the theory that is is better to do so.

I do not do or advocate that any more. If the case is dire, whatever remedy can be found as lowest availabe gets used and then F series from there up. It is harder to do that than to start low and go up - as a low lifeforce handles a low potency better and you have easier control. But life is not about ideal things, but real things:-)

In a case with more strength, it is no problem to have some kind of pause in progress and go down to do the entire F series starting low - and the benefit will be evident at some stage - but KNOW that you have some life force in hand to do that - I would not do it ever again in a near death case.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

I personally have not seen that, but then I have a different type of patients,fortunately not life threatening cases so far.
Irene's approach makes sense in the cases she treats.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks Irene, a very good cautionary tale.

Do you feel that the problem was (a) because 5c was too low for the circumstances, and it required a higher potency, or (b) the very low vital force was not able to adjust to the *change* from 30 to 5, or ?

Shannon

[Irene de Villiers]

I suspect both, but I do not know enough to say.

Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."