Persian cats?

[Rochelle]

Anyone know anything about Persian cats and the fact this breed can have constant bloody lachrymation?
Rochelle

[Irene de Villiers]

Yup. Persians have been bred to have eyes that are too large for their ablity to keep them lubricated by normal blinking.
It's not really bloody lachrymation, though it has a red/brown color. (I've VERy rarely seen blood due to other reasons but I am assuming "normal" persian issues for now - I may be wrong?)
There's an easy fix though if that's it. Euphrasia eyedrops - that is one tab of euphrasia in a cup of water sucussed -
remade weekly to be fresh -
one soothing eyedrop in each eye once or twice a day - plus plenty of fish oil ad Vit E in the diet. Tears need a suitable amount of oil in them and if that is also in short supply from a diet with all saturated fats and no fish oil, or with unsuitable plant fats, the tears will be too watery. (Check food ingredeits - cats need a LOT ofveery fresh animal fat, it's what they use for everyday energy.) Chicken fat is good.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Rochelle]

Thanks for all this information. I think this was a rescue cat. I have Euphrasia tincture which I make up drops for human eyes so will make her up a bottle. Being a tincture and not a pillule I usually tell patients that it has to be replaced every month. I put 1 drop of tincture in with 10ml boiled water.
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Sent: 09 October 2013 14:45
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Persian cats?
Yup. Persians have been bred to have eyes that are too large for their ablity to keep them lubricated by normal blinking.
It's not really bloody lachrymation, though it has a red/brown color. (I've VERy rarely seen blood due to other reasons but I am assuming "normal" persian issues for now - I may be wrong?)
There's an easy fix though if that's it. Euphrasia eyedrops - that is one tab of euphrasia in a cup of water sucussed -
remade weekly to be fresh -
one soothing eyedrop in each eye once or twice a day - plus plenty of fish oil ad Vit E in the diet. Tears need a suitable amount of oil in them and if that is also in short supply from a diet with all saturated fats and no fish oil, or with unsuitable plant fats, the tears will be too watery. (Check food ingredeits - cats need a LOT ofveery fresh animal fat, it's what they use for everyday energy.) Chicken fat is good.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

In my view even that is too much alcohol and will burn those super-irritated sensitive eyes.
I'd use a pillule. Seriously. Alcohol is also drying, the opposite of what's needed, and since this is for frequent use I feel it matters - or at least it is "benefit of the doubt"ish
The pillule needs to be very well dissolved, so one in a cup of water, sucuss to get the water to be remedy, is how I usually do it.

Also I do not think alcohol of only 1 drop in 10 ml will be effective to keep eyedrops clear, depening how careful the client is with contamination - a chance not worth takiing?
Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Rochelle]

Thanks for that. I put 15 drops in 100ml bottle of hot water which will have driven the alcohol out!! I find 2 drops in 10 ml is too much for some human eyes!! OK I will ask her how it went yesterday and if she thinks it was too much I will give her pillules to make up. My problem with pillules is the sugar content – is that OK ? Recontamination I told client to keep bottle in the fridge.
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Sent: 10 October 2013 07:38
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Persian cats?
In my view even that is too much alcohol and will burn those super-irritated sensitive eyes.
I'd use a pillule. Seriously. Alcohol is also drying, the opposite of what's needed, and since this is for frequent use I feel it matters - or at least it is "benefit of the doubt"ish
The pillule needs to be very well dissolved, so one in a cup of water, sucuss to get the water to be remedy, is how I usually do it.

Also I do not think alcohol of only 1 drop in 10 ml will be effective to keep eyedrops clear, depening how careful the client is with contamination - a chance not worth takiing?
Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Seriously?
There will be more sandpapery harsh dust in the eye than dissolved sugar, which the body can absorb and use as food anyway. If the sugar is not dissolved it can scratch if there's a lot. A pillule in a cup of water is not exactly a sugar load. I've put an entire crushed pillule in one eye when I was in a hurry for the beneficial effect. (I would not do that with an alcohol remedy!)
That will probably be fine. Room temp feels better though.
The contamination happens when junk is allowed to enter the bottle opening from a used item, eg if they hold a cloth over the bottle mouth, and reuse it that way or re-use a dropper. A good way to use eyedrops is to pour a little onto a clean saucer and wipe/dose from there, and toss any leftovers - so nothing is introduced to the bottle to contaminate it. A good rule is to not stick anything into the bottle and not touch or hold anythig against the bottle opening or inner lid. Just open, pour and recap - make it a one-way thing.
Eyes are a very easy way to get infections started, esp if the immune system is not up to snuff due to vaccines or whatever. Persians are especially susceptible as they have convoluted tubules between eye and nose and they clog with great alacrity, encouraging infection: The tubules had to get convoluted as they did not shorten when the nose was bred short and bent (aka "with a stop"). Cats end up paying for those human manipulations of design, against the well designed natural ones.
Logic-wise, Mark Twain explained it:
If man were crossed with a cat, it would improve man but deteriorate the cat

Anyway - the Euphrasia drops are a good first aid for the situation. They provide the lubrication, the soothing and the infection prevention all in one.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Rochelle]

Thanks Irene,

I have sent what you have written about contamination to her.

This is not a patient but a friend. I am not allowed by law to prescribe for
animals in UK

OK just been in touch with her and she said the drops made one eye worse and
she is bathing them now. Have told her I will leave pillules for her to
make up in a cup (American cup = 8ozs(200ml) of cooled boiled water and to
stir well before each dose in the eye. Sorry I made the mistake and used
tincture as I would for a human.

Rochelle