[ARH-Animal-Health] Veterinary Homeopath needs your help

[Tanya Marquette]

Dear All,
Some of you know Irene de Villiers.
For those who don’t, this woman has been a major supporter of homeopathy for animals, cats in particular.
She has saved many with FIP and other death defying illnesses. Always recall her disappointment in losing
a cat under 20 yrs of age. She feels they all can live to 25 easily! And under her care, all of hers have.
We have known her to be someone who has struggled with severe physical disability and despite this she
has remained an active contributor to homeopathy for animals, teaching and giving of herself.
Below is her letter of needing support. Yesterday I read a post from abroad noting the US is ‘beginning’ to
feel like a police state. Yesterday I listened to a retired intelligence officer who came out years ago
stating emphatically that this was and has been true for many years. Going after Irene is a really cheap
shot given her limitations to adequately defend herself. It is also part of the effort to kill homeopathy in
the US. Washington State has been known as a liberal State regarding holistic health care. I believe that
is why they are doing this. Kill the State’s holistic practitioners, kill the trust in homeopathy and naturopathy,
and the rest of the country will be easy? Let us not let this happen.
You have permission to pass this on.
Can someone post this on Homeopathy World Community. I cannot do it.
tanya

Irene de Villiers needs your help. She is a veterinary homeopath who has helped save countless pets that were doomed by FIP or other diseases. You have seen her articles on Hpathy and chatted with her on the forums. She has worked tirelessly to help save animals that conventional vets had given up on. She is now facing trumped up charges from the Dept of Health of WA, which is threatening her with fines and imprisonment. She is without funds and in delicate health. I’ve printed a letter here in which she explains her situation. I urge you to help by making a donation.
Alan V. Schmukler
Editor
Letter from Irene de Villiers
Well I hoped this could not happen. I know the Washington veterinary practice law by heart, and am careful not to do anything I may not do. In short it says one may not prognose, diagnose or treat in the following areas for a fee (but it’s okay to help someone else treat their animal gratuitously):
* Disease
* Defect
* Deformity
* Wound
* Injury
It says nothing about it being bad to build health, prevent disease, do good nutrition etc.
So my consults are styled around this. I have the client sign that:
“Please know that I am not a licensed veterinarian (DVM), but a veterinary homeopath (D.Vet.Hom). So my training excludes surgery and does not allow me to write prescriptions, diagnose and treat in this country/state of WA. You will be doing any treatment based on advice, information and recommendations from me that you choose to use or not. I shall recommend you see your vet for certain things if needed and it is always your prerogative to do so”
…and the matched remedy (computer analysis being the only fee item) is intended to help build health, if used by the client at their discretion. My helping them to treat their cat is not charged for and may continue for months.
That has to be agreed before I do anything else.
All well and good I thought.
Apparently not any more. (It was before).
Dept of health of WA has filed allegations against me that I “offered to treat an animal patient for a fee in about July 2012″ without a vet license.
and that what I do is “against the public interest and welfare” so I must pay $1000 a day then jail time after 2nd day from then – so they accuse.
I sent in an application for more time to answer this allegation that has no details or explanation of what they are on about and which came out of the blue…… I never offer to do the treating, much less for a fee. Supposedly they allow extensions for health issues (which I have and supported with evidence).
BUT – Late Monday I got a judge’s order refusing extension of time. The default is then that I mail an answer to the allegation to arrive by FRIDAY, or lose by default. After that if I answer in time saying the right stuff – it leads to an Administrative Hearing (AH) before a AH Law judge, and there may be more legal proceedings.
They said some other nasty and contradicting things in the order like that my request for clarity of the allegation ( as Wa law says I have a right to) is an “answer” thus I do not deserve the extension. (No there is no logic there, and that is the problem. One of many legal quagmires now being used. The lawyer politely calls them “procedural issues”)
Essentially this is out of my league to handle, I do not know how the Administrative Law system works, what its rules are, how to present evidence or motions, and what to present, how they interpret stuff, how to handle “procedural issues” …..so I realized I must have a lawyer to have any hope of avoiding free room and board somewhere with striped windows where they do not believe in gluten free meals or cats. I would not last; I NEED help to show I am not guilty; they are not hearing what *I* say. (I suspect they have already decided not to listen, it is the attitude in the crazy sounding contradictory documents).
It was a heck of a 24 hrs from then yesterday. A nice guy I met recently, studying for board exams in law (but not Administrative law – he’s doing criminal and civil law) pulled out some stops to ask law professors he knows for a lawyer recommendation for me (there is a law school here) as I had NO luck hunting down ANYone who knows Admin law much less as it pertains to animals, and he got an animal law professor to recommend Adam Karp of Seattle, animal lawyer, (rated by his clients as 5 out of 5 on the internet I see!) who answered my email Mon night within the hour (how nice), and I sent all the documents and he got back to me Tuesday evening to say:
* He will cut his 300/hr fee in half for me to 150/hr and can get started with a retainer of $1500 to start off.
And he gave me some immediate pointers to work on -
Today I managed to scrape $1000 together loaned against my house, I cannot manage the rest, I have no assets to sell thanks to long illness.
He has already given me quite a bit of advice.
There is some bad news as well – that the Admin people are now (mis-)using the human medical laws against alternative health people in WA cases of claimed vet practice without license like mine. (Those WA people rules are draconian to say the least and I in no way thought they’d be relevant – and hope a good lawyer can argue them away).
Well, I would dearly like to take up Mr Adam Karp on his offer, said I did and sent the $1000 I could manage, not enough even to start though – and truly believe I can not do this without a lawyer at this stage and am somewhat panicked (to say the least?) by the crummy deadline they suddenly imposed for first filings.
I can not ask anyone for a loan as I do not have any income from which to know I could repay it. (Suggestion: NEVER get too ill to earn an income!) I do not want to beg, but I do not know what else to do today. I suppose I am just hoping for the kind of generous kindness that could help me through this – if enough people managed a bit of help (even if small like ten or fifteen dollars say) it may add up enough to get me a lawyer started to do what I cannot do for myself in this Admin law case of WA Health Dept against me..
If you’d like to do something anonymously, you could send it direct to my lawyer using my name as the “account” (Irene K de Villiers) being the case name. Otherwise my Paypal account (at PayPal.com) works on either of my email addresses. I would be so grateful for the help.
Paypal: furryboots@catlover.com
https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/m ... e-payments
or
My lawyer:
Animal Law Offices of Adam P. Karp
114 W. Magnolia St., Ste. 425
Bellingham, WA 98225

The guy at the Health dept who says my work is not in the public interest or welfare is David Magby.
Gee …..how charming to say so before there is even the first piece of evidence presented? Some law!
If anyone wants to write something to the contrary, please feel free, my address is below. I’d love to show that the kind of thing I do is actually seen as beneficial.
Examples of results here at Hpathy:
http://hpathy.com/veterinary-homeopathy ... 500-cases/
So sorry to have to even share my current predicament. I hope it will end up all coming right – I believe it can – I do need help to achieve it. Please.
My 3 cats of course are purring up storms to help me feel loved and level-headed, not the easiest thing at the moment.
Namaste,
Irene
REPLY TO: furryboots@catlover.com
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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Registered Classical Homeopath
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Clinics: Bath, Bromham/Chippenham

Tel: 07966 581498
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[Ginny Wilken]

This is tragic and stupid. I am relieved she has found a savvy lawyer, and have sent something to help. More and more, even if one jumps through all the hoops, if someone takes a notion to cause trouble, there is no logic in the process. All my best to Irene!
ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

[Negri, Julie A. *HS]

I have sent something as well. This is the type of cause we need to support so that we can continue to have non-allopathic treatment options. Otherwise we all run the risk of having animal control knocking on our doors and forcing us to allopathically treat our animals or even take our animals if we don’t.

Julie
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ginny wilken
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:31 PM
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This is tragic and stupid. I am relieved she has found a savvy lawyer, and have sent something to help. More and more, even if one jumps through all the hoops, if someone takes a notion to cause trouble, there is no logic in the process. All my best to Irene!
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!

[Shannon Nelson]

Yes, she'll need all the help she can raise, and I can't think of anyone more deserving of it.
I wonder if one of those… well, I guess not micro loan, since she will not be able to repay. Is there a similar thing for donations? Is Kickstarter donations, anyone know?

Shannon

[Tanya Marquette]

what about the idea of starting a Care2 petition.
putting the situation into a larger context of freedom of health choice
and naturopathic choice, not just homeopathy might get a bigger response.
can also just do this a petition to the State/ locality that is bringing the action against her
t
From: Shannon Nelson
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 2:54 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Fw: [ARH-Animal-Health] Veterinary Homeopath needs your help

Yes, she'll need all the help she can raise, and I can't think of anyone more deserving of it.
I wonder if one of those… well, I guess not micro loan, since she will not be able to repay. Is there a similar thing for donations? Is Kickstarter donations, anyone know?
Shannon

[Dale Moss]

Excellent idea! Does anyone know how?
There was an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal for 7/17/13 that may bear on Irene's case. Criminalizing people who are not licensed is part of a trend in many states; it looks like a power grab on the part of professional associations. The piece concerned efforts by the Kentucky Attorney General, at the behest of the state's Board of Examiners of Psychology, to shut down a popular syndicated advice column written by a man who is a licensed psychologist -- just not in the state of Kentucky.
Citing other examples in other states, the authors (Paul Sherman and Jeff Rowes), write: "This disturbing national trend of censoring advice can be traced to the explosion of occupational licensing laws."
Sherman and Rowes, lawyers at the Institute for Justice, filed a lawsuit in Kentucky federal court to stop the attorney general and state board from banning the advice column. To them, it's a First Amendment issue: licensure should not trump free speech. One might also argue that there are anti-trust implications.
Peace,
Dale

[Dale Moss]

Excellent idea! Does anyone know how?
There was an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal for 7/17/13 that may bear on Irene's case. Criminalizing people who are not licensed is part of a trend in many states; it looks like a power grab on the part of professional associations. The piece concerned efforts by the Kentucky Attorney General, at the behest of the state's Board of Examiners of Psychology, to shut down a popular syndicated advice column written by a man who is a licensed psychologist -- just not in the state of Kentucky.
Citing other examples in other states, the authors (Paul Sherman and Jeff Rowes), write: "This disturbing national trend of censoring advice can be traced to the explosion of occupational licensing laws."
Sherman and Rowes, lawyers at the Institute for Justice, filed a lawsuit in Kentucky federal court to stop the attorney general and state board from banning the advice column. To them, it's a First Amendment issue: licensure should not trump free speech. One might also argue that there are anti-trust implications.
Peace,
Dale

[Dale Moss]

Excellent idea! Does anyone know how?
There was an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal for 7/17/13 that may bear on Irene's case. Criminalizing people who are not licensed is part of a trend in many states; it looks like a power grab on the part of professional associations. The piece concerned efforts by the Kentucky Attorney General, at the behest of the state's Board of Examiners of Psychology, to shut down a popular syndicated advice column written by a man who is a licensed psychologist -- just not in the state of Kentucky.
Citing other examples in other states, the authors (Paul Sherman and Jeff Rowes), write: "This disturbing national trend of censoring advice can be traced to the explosion of occupational licensing laws."
Sherman and Rowes, lawyers at the Institute for Justice, filed a lawsuit in Kentucky federal court to stop the attorney general and state board from banning the advice column. To them, it's a First Amendment issue: licensure should not trump free speech. One might also argue that there are anti-trust implications.
Peace,
Dale

[Tanya Marquette]

I have never done it but I don’t think it that hard to do.
Also the Avaaz site which really has an enormous international reach.
t
From: DALE MOSS
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:26 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Fw: [ARH-Animal-Health] Veterinary Homeopath needs your help

Excellent idea! Does anyone know how?
There was an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal for 7/17/13 that may bear on Irene's case. Criminalizing people who are not licensed is part of a trend in many states; it looks like a power grab on the part of professional associations. The piece concerned efforts by the Kentucky Attorney General, at the behest of the state's Board of Examiners of Psychology, to shut down a popular syndicated advice column written by a man who is a licensed psychologist -- just not in the state of Kentucky.
Citing other examples in other states, the authors (Paul Sherman and Jeff Rowes), write: "This disturbing national trend of censoring advice can be traced to the explosion of occupational licensing laws."
Sherman and Rowes, lawyers at the Institute for Justice, filed a lawsuit in Kentucky federal court to stop the attorney general and state board from banning the advice column. To them, it's a First Amendment issue: licensure should not trump free speech. One might also argue that there are anti-trust implications.
Peace,
Dale

[Tanya Marquette]

Took a minute to look up starting petitions on the 2 sites previously mentioned.
MoveOn.org also has a petition format but they are more political election oriented.
Check these out and lets see if people want to do this. From my perspective, doing it
will be good only if we take a broad health approach and couch Irene’s situation within that
context. People will also need to commit to sending it out to their email lists and social
media sites. and whatever else can be thought to do.
1. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/create.html Care 2
2. https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/start_a_petition/ Avaaz
t
From: DALE MOSS
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:26 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Fw: [ARH-Animal-Health] Veterinary Homeopath needs your help

Excellent idea! Does anyone know how?
There was an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal for 7/17/13 that may bear on Irene's case. Criminalizing people who are not licensed is part of a trend in many states; it looks like a power grab on the part of professional associations. The piece concerned efforts by the Kentucky Attorney General, at the behest of the state's Board of Examiners of Psychology, to shut down a popular syndicated advice column written by a man who is a licensed psychologist -- just not in the state of Kentucky.
Citing other examples in other states, the authors (Paul Sherman and Jeff Rowes), write: "This disturbing national trend of censoring advice can be traced to the explosion of occupational licensing laws."
Sherman and Rowes, lawyers at the Institute for Justice, filed a lawsuit in Kentucky federal court to stop the attorney general and state board from banning the advice column. To them, it's a First Amendment issue: licensure should not trump free speech. One might also argue that there are anti-trust implications.
Peace,
Dale