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[Jean Doherty]

From another list.
I believe our remedies affect DNA.
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DNA_sequence_re ... Memory.php

DNA Sequence Reconstituted from Water Memory?

Water carrying only the electromagnetic signature of a DNA sequence
can make a replica of the sequence out of simple building blocks,
Nobel laureate HIV researcher shows.
Dr. Mae-Wan Ho

When Noble laureate HIV researcher Luc Montagnier discovered that
certain bacterial and viral DNA sequences dissolved in water causes
electromagnetic signals to be emitted at high dilutions, that was bad
enough (see [1, 2] 'Homeopathic' Signals from DNA and Electromagnetic
Signals from HIV, SiS 48). Now, new results from his lab appear to
show that the DNA sequence itself could be reconstituted from the
electromagnetic signal. That has so stunned the scientific community
that one prominent supporter was nonetheless moved to remark: "Luc is
either a genius or he is mad!" But some quantum physicists are taking
that very seriously, and are linking Montagnier's findings to decades
of research demonstrating the sensitivity of organisms to extremely
weak electromagnetic fields.

A story that goes back ten years

Luc Montagnier tells the story that began 10 years ago when he
discovered the strange behaviour of a small bacterium, Mycoplasm
pirum, a frequent companion to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)
infection; and like the HIV, has special affinity for the human
lymphocytes (white blood cells) [3]. He was trying to separate the
bacterium of about 300 nm from the virus particles of about 120 nm
using filters of pore size 100 nm and 20 nm, starting with pure
cultures of the bacterium on lymphocytes.

The filtrate (solution that went through the filter) was sterile, and
no bacterium grew in a rich culture medium that would normally
support its growth. Furthermore, polymerase chain reactions (PCR)
based on primers (short starting sequences) derived from adhesin, a
gene of the bacterium that had been cloned and sequenced, failed to
detect any DNA in the filtrate.

But, to Montagnier's surprise, when the filtrate was incubated with
lymphocytes that were not infected with Mycoplasm (according to the
most stringent tests), the bacterium was regularly recovered.

So, was there some information in the filtrate responsible for
directing the synthesis of the bacterium? That marked the beginning
of a long series of investigations on how DNA behaves in water, which
led to the discovery that the M. pirum DNA was emitting low frequency
electromagnetic waves in some diluted solutions of the filtrate in
water, and this property of M. pirum DNA was soon extended to other
bacterial and viral DNA [1, 2].

The instrument used to detect the electromagnetic (EM) signals
consists of a solenoid (a coil of wire) that detects the magnetic
component of the waves produced by the DNA solution in a plastic tube
as it induces an electric current in the wire. This current is
amplified and analysed in a laptop computer using special software,
and the resultant signals plotted out on the computer screen.

Electromagnetic signals traced to DNA sequence

In summary, ultra-low frequency (500 – 3 000 Hz) electromagnetic (EM)
signals were detected in certain dilutions of the filtrate from
cultures of micro-organisms (virus, bacteria) or from the plasma of
humans infected with the same agents. The same results were obtained
from their extracted DNA. The EM signals are not linearly correlated
with the initial number of bacterial cells before filtration. In one
experiment, the EM signals were similar in suspensions of E. coli
cells varying from 109 down to 10. It is an "all or none" phenomenon.
The EM signals are detected only in some high water dilutions of the
filtrates; for example, from 10-9 to 10-18 in some preparations.

In the case of M. pirum, an isolated single gene, adhesin (previously
cloned and sequenced. 3 435 basepairs) could induce the EMS,
suggesting that a short DNA sequence is sufficient to induce the
signals. Similarly, a short HIV DNA sequence of 104 basepairs is
enough to produce the EM signals.

Some bacteria do not produce the EM signals (at least in the range
detected by the instrument), as in the case of probiotic bacteria
such as Lactobacillus, and also some lab strains of E. coli used as
cloning vector.

These studies have been extended to viruses, but not all virus
families have been investigated. Similar EM signals were detected
from some retroviruses (HIV, FeLV), hepatitis viruses (HBV, HCV), and
influenza A cultures. In general, EM signals are produced by 20 nm
filtrates of viral suspensions or from the extracted DNA. In the case
of HIV, RNA is not a source of the EM signals, but rather, the EM
signals are produced by the proviral DNA present in infected cells.
In bacteria, however, the EM signals are produced by 100 nm
filtrates, and not by the 20 nm filtrates. This led Montagnier's team
to suggest that nanostructures of water are carriers of the
information. Although highly purified water was used, the presence of
trace contaminants in the nanostructures cannot be ruled out. The
production of EM signals is resistant to treatment with the enzymes
RNAse, DNAse, protease, or with detergent. However, it is sensitive
to heat over 70 ºC and freezing (-80 ºC). This sensitivity is reduced
when dealing with purified short DNA sequences. To produce the EM
signals, succession (vigorous shaking) is necessary, as well as
stimulation by the electromagnetic background of very low frequency,
either from natural sources (the Schumann resonances, which start at
7.83 Hz) or from artificial sources, such as the mains.

DNA sequence recreated from its electromagnetic signature in pure water

In the new experiments, a fragment of HIV DNA was taken from its long
terminal repeat and used for generating EM signals. This fragment was
amplified by PCR to 487 bp and 104 bp. Dilutions of the DNA were made
and the production of EM signals under the ambient electromagnetic
background was detected.

One of the diluted solutions (say, 10-6), which gave a positive
signal, was placed in a container shielded by 1 mm think mu-metal (an
alloy that absorbs EM waves). Close to it, another tube containing
pure water was placed. The water content of each tube had been
filtered through 450 nm and 20 nm filters and diluted from 10-2 to
10-15, as for the DNA solution. A copper solenoid is placed around
the tubes and they were exposed to a low intensity electric current
oscillating at 7 Hz produced by an external generator. The magnetic
field produced by the external generator is maintained for 18 hours
at room temperature. EM signals are then recorded from each tube. At
that point, the tube containing pure water also emits EM signals at
the dilutions corresponding to those giving positive EMS in the
original DNA tube. This result shows that the EMS carried by the
nanostructures in the water originating from the DNA has been
transmitted to the pure water in 18 hours. No such transfer of EM
signals was achieved when the time of exposure was less than 16 to 18
hours, or when the coil is absent, or when the generator of magnetic
field was turned off, or the frequency of excitation was less than 7
Hz, or when DNA was absent in the 'donor' tube.

Now for the most crucial test: could the EM signals transmitted to
the pure water that never had DNA in it provide sufficient
information to recreate the DNA sequence? To do the test, all the
ingredients necessary for synthesizing the DNA by the polymerase
chain reaction – nucleotides, primers, polymerase enzyme - were added
to the tube with the pure water that had gained the EM signal. The
amplification was done under ordinary conditions, and the DNA
produced was then run through an agarose gel electrophoresis.

A DNA band of the expected size (104 bp) was found. It was 98 percent
identical to the sequence of DNA from which the EM signals originated
(only 2 out of 104 basepairs were different).

The experiment was highly reproducible, 12 out of 12 times; and was
also repeated with another DNA sequence from the bacterium Borrelia
burgdorferi, the agent of Lyme disease.

Bringing bacterium back to life from its DNA signals?

This suggests an explanation for Montagnier's original observation
made ten years ago that the bacterium could be reconstituted from a
sterile filtrate incubated with human lymphocytes. The EM signals of
all the bacterium's DNA were in the sterile filtrate. The
nanostructures induced by M. pirum DNA in the filtrate carried
information representing different segments of its genomic DNA. Each
nanostructure, when in contact with the human lymphocytes, directs
the synthesis of the corresponding DNA by the DNA polymerases in the
cell. There is then a certain probability that each piece of DNA
recombines within the cell to reconstruct the whole DNA genome of
Mycoplasm. From there, the synthesis of the rest of the bacterium –
membrane lipids, ribosomes, and proteins – could take place, thanks
to the host cells. One single reconstituted Mycoplasm is sufficient
to infect the lymphocytes. "All the steps assumed in the regeneration
from water can be analysed and open to verification." The researchers
wrote [3].

They remind us that indeed, Craig Venter's group had claimed to have
created life by first reassembling an entire Mycoplasm genome from
pieces bought off the shelf (see [4] Synthetic Life? Not By a Long
Shot, SiS 47). So at least that step is not impossible.

The finding also dovetails with evidence that molecules
intercommunicate by electromagnetic signals, which bring them
together for biochemical reactions (see [5] The Real Bioinformatics
Revolution , SiS 33). However, it raises the fundamental question of
how water could store and receive electromagnetic information of such
precision that a DNA sequence could be reproduced without a template,
which is how it is normally done.

The answer takes us on a fascinating journey through decades of
research on the exquisite sensitivity of organisms to ultraweak
electromagnetic fields, and the quantum electrodynamic theory of
water (see [6] Quantum Coherent Water, Non-thermal EMF Effects, &
Homeopathy, and other articles in the series, SiS 51).

References

1. Ho MW. 'Homeopathic' siganls from DNA. Science in Society 48, 36-39,
2010.

2. Ho MW. Electromagnetic signals from HIV. Science in Society 48,
40-43, 2010.

3. Montagnier L, Aissa J, Del Giudice ED, Lavallee C, Tdeschi A and
Vitiello G. DNA waves and water. Journal of Physics: Conferences
Series, 2011, in print arXiv:1012.5166Ms

4. Ho MW. Synthetic life? Not by a long shot. Science in Society 47,
16-17, 2010. Science in Society 33, 42-45, 2007.

5. Ho MW. The real bioinformatics revolution. Science in Society 33,
42-45, 2007.

6. Ho MW. Quantum coherent water, non-thermal EMF effects, &
homeopathy. Science in Society 51 (to appear).
warren brodey m.d. Comment left 20th July 2011 21:09:54
This is fascinating research and exceedingly important. I am glad SIS
is able to bring forward such information to those of us who like SIS
are concerned with the social consequences of such findings. Too
often those involved with creating potential alternative futures have
no means of entering the relatively private room of pioneering
scientists. It is good to be informed. Thanks to SIS
Dr. Michael Godfrey Comment left 20th July 2011 22:10:10
Goes to show that we are all just collections of EM energy fields
with a body that follows us around. The latter can then be
reconstituted and recycled as infinitum. Jacques Benveniste would be
delighted.
gunwoong bahng Comment left 21st July 2011 08:08:01
Regarding about the water memory mechanism, you may refer the work by
Russian people, Vysotskil, Kornilova, and Smirnov. They [ublished
their extensive work on water memory in a book "Applied biophysics of
activated water". Best regards,
robert davidson MD, PhD Comment left 25th July 2011 10:10:41
Thank you, Dr Ho and ISIS, for this great article! Drs Montagnier and
Szent-Gyorgyi have vindicated Antoine Bechamp and Royal Rife.
Homeopathy is outstripping allopathy. The science in support of
classical homeopathy is much stronger than that in support of
allopathy. Perhaps now the "Fourth Element" of the blood is being
described in detail. Our survival as a species will depend on homeopathy.
R. Drengot Comment left 9th December 2011 10:10:52
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[John Harvey]

Very interesting, Jean! Thank you.

John

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