Dry Dose?
Dry Dose?
Reflecting on Dr. Roz's comment of dissolving the remedy powder in a tablespoon of water, as Hahnemann mentions in the Organon.......
......then thinking about the term "dry dose" -
Placed 1 pill under the tongue and waited for it to completely dissolve without swallowing. Sure enough, approximately 1 tablespoon + of liquid (saliva) remedy. So, the question is, is there really a dry dose?
Also wondered if forcefull "swishing" of the mouth contents would raise the potency a tad, as in a form of succussion of fluxation?
Leilanae
......then thinking about the term "dry dose" -
Placed 1 pill under the tongue and waited for it to completely dissolve without swallowing. Sure enough, approximately 1 tablespoon + of liquid (saliva) remedy. So, the question is, is there really a dry dose?
Also wondered if forcefull "swishing" of the mouth contents would raise the potency a tad, as in a form of succussion of fluxation?
Leilanae
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Re: Dry Dose?
5th & 6th edition water potencies are more than just mixing them in a little water. It is a certain amount of water, a certain dose, purposeful succussion. Evaluating first dose and doing all you can to come up with a frequency of dosing - ie next dose to be just before effect stops and goes backward. And succussion is more than swishing. It is a purposeful downward thrust like a judge with a gavel from a distance of about 1-2 feet.
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Re: Dry Dose?
It is different - you want to get to a repetition that is individualized and subsequent dose given when the effect of previous dose as wained. Dry dosing - you can't do that.
It isn't about just putting it in water or saliva
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It isn't about just putting it in water or saliva
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Re: Dry Dose?
Hi Sheri,
Subject line: "Dry Dose?"
Question: Is there really a dry dose"
Let me try again -
Patient disolves a powder remedy in a tablespoon of water.........
or pill dissolved under the tongue in saliva........
or to add a third, chemist prepares 1 pill in a tablespoon of water, bottles it and hands it to the patient.
All three examples use water (saliva (99.5% water) as a carrier of the remedies energy.
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Probably would have been better if I didn't mention the thought of forcefull swishing changing the potency, while waiting for the pill under the tongue to dissolve. Sorry it it caused confusion.
Atb,
Leilanae
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Subject line: "Dry Dose?"
Question: Is there really a dry dose"
Let me try again -
Patient disolves a powder remedy in a tablespoon of water.........
or pill dissolved under the tongue in saliva........
or to add a third, chemist prepares 1 pill in a tablespoon of water, bottles it and hands it to the patient.
All three examples use water (saliva (99.5% water) as a carrier of the remedies energy.
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Probably would have been better if I didn't mention the thought of forcefull swishing changing the potency, while waiting for the pill under the tongue to dissolve. Sorry it it caused confusion.
Atb,
Leilanae
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Re: Dry Dose?
Hi Leilanae,
Water dosing gives additional control over the dilution. E.g. usually that one pillule will be dissolved in *more* than a tablespoon, and both size of dose and amount of dilution can be adjusted.
So whether a dry dose is really *dry*, I hear you, yet it is different from water dosing, I would say?
Shannon
Water dosing gives additional control over the dilution. E.g. usually that one pillule will be dissolved in *more* than a tablespoon, and both size of dose and amount of dilution can be adjusted.
So whether a dry dose is really *dry*, I hear you, yet it is different from water dosing, I would say?
Shannon
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Let me take a jab at this one.
The issue of "dry dose" is not, IMO, the fact it is in a pill or powder form (dry but is not really as the lactose contains a lattice of H2O), dissolved in saliva, a tsp of water or a bottle of water. The issue is with taking the full amount in one go, then wait and see what is happening.
No matter how you administer the remedy, it remains the same remedy, providing the same information. Agree?
Taking the full amount or a part of the same amount dissolved in 1,2,3,4,5 glasses of water changes the number of bytes of information provided, to speak computereese.....
Therefore, even though you receive the same information, it is the intensity, the strength of this information that is modulated, allowing a weaker system to tolerate some change whereas if it received too intense a load it would overreact, or even not react at all, "freezing".
Let's take an example we all know well: students enroll for a 4 years university level study programme. If you send them all the books, all the syllabi, all the CDs and DVDs they will ever need with the mention "study that and pass your exams", how many will balk and leave the course? Single dose.... if you send the material regularly, month after month, the same education will be achieved at the end, digested and tolerated a lot better! Water dosing....
Then here comes the question: why am *I*, allegedly an advanced practitioner, former student of David Little, etc,... still using "single-shot doses" aka dry doses, in the F series?
Answers:
1. because the single "semi-dry" dose is part of a series where each different dose has a different potency, respecting what H said, but in a specific, mathematically and biologically correct order.
2. because in reality, most of the patients (about 80% in my practice) CAN and DO tolerate a "high intensity single-shot" dose as long as they are followed closely, warned about effects and in touch with the practitioner (thank you email!!!!).
3. those dry doses are modified in water potencies a la Organon 5 or 6 if the patient is highly sensitive to drugs or remedies, has low vitality as assessed through physical examination and history (and that vitality sometimes has to be restored BEFORE the homeopathic treatment, a different subject), or has organic pathology you certainly do not want the slightest aggravation to happen as it could kill them (severe asthmatics, heart pathologies, etc,.....)
Again, back to basics: a successful treatment will be based on the correct remedy in the first place, at proper levels of vibration (potencies) and given in a manner that the patient can cope with.
Do I make sense????
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com
The issue of "dry dose" is not, IMO, the fact it is in a pill or powder form (dry but is not really as the lactose contains a lattice of H2O), dissolved in saliva, a tsp of water or a bottle of water. The issue is with taking the full amount in one go, then wait and see what is happening.
No matter how you administer the remedy, it remains the same remedy, providing the same information. Agree?
Taking the full amount or a part of the same amount dissolved in 1,2,3,4,5 glasses of water changes the number of bytes of information provided, to speak computereese.....
Therefore, even though you receive the same information, it is the intensity, the strength of this information that is modulated, allowing a weaker system to tolerate some change whereas if it received too intense a load it would overreact, or even not react at all, "freezing".
Let's take an example we all know well: students enroll for a 4 years university level study programme. If you send them all the books, all the syllabi, all the CDs and DVDs they will ever need with the mention "study that and pass your exams", how many will balk and leave the course? Single dose.... if you send the material regularly, month after month, the same education will be achieved at the end, digested and tolerated a lot better! Water dosing....
Then here comes the question: why am *I*, allegedly an advanced practitioner, former student of David Little, etc,... still using "single-shot doses" aka dry doses, in the F series?
Answers:
1. because the single "semi-dry" dose is part of a series where each different dose has a different potency, respecting what H said, but in a specific, mathematically and biologically correct order.
2. because in reality, most of the patients (about 80% in my practice) CAN and DO tolerate a "high intensity single-shot" dose as long as they are followed closely, warned about effects and in touch with the practitioner (thank you email!!!!).
3. those dry doses are modified in water potencies a la Organon 5 or 6 if the patient is highly sensitive to drugs or remedies, has low vitality as assessed through physical examination and history (and that vitality sometimes has to be restored BEFORE the homeopathic treatment, a different subject), or has organic pathology you certainly do not want the slightest aggravation to happen as it could kill them (severe asthmatics, heart pathologies, etc,.....)
Again, back to basics: a successful treatment will be based on the correct remedy in the first place, at proper levels of vibration (potencies) and given in a manner that the patient can cope with.
Do I make sense????
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com
Re: Dry Dose?
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Hi Dr. Roz,
Thanks for answering my question!
OK, so "dry dose" is not literal. Translated it means "full amount in one go" or "single shot dose".
Got it, Thanks!
PS: My "tool kit" includes MT, X. C, M, and LM, with an understanding of of how and when to use the "tools" (adjusting the potency). F potencies - next on the list.
Thanks again, you have a great way of explaining things.
Leilanae
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Hi Dr. Roz,
Thanks for answering my question!
OK, so "dry dose" is not literal. Translated it means "full amount in one go" or "single shot dose".
Got it, Thanks!
PS: My "tool kit" includes MT, X. C, M, and LM, with an understanding of of how and when to use the "tools" (adjusting the potency). F potencies - next on the list.
Thanks again, you have a great way of explaining things.
Leilanae
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Re: Dry Dose?
Yes, that is my understanding and application of it.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com
Joe.
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Re: Dry Dose?
Hi, Leilani --
The other significance of "dry" dosing appears only in the second half of Dr Roz's message: that it does not facilitate incremental, continual changes in potency. That is arguably the major purpose of Hahnemann's method of using multiple glasses: to enable stirring of the medicine between doses and ensure that no two consecutive doses affect the patient with identical potency.
Cheers --
John
The other significance of "dry" dosing appears only in the second half of Dr Roz's message: that it does not facilitate incremental, continual changes in potency. That is arguably the major purpose of Hahnemann's method of using multiple glasses: to enable stirring of the medicine between doses and ensure that no two consecutive doses affect the patient with identical potency.
Cheers --
John
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Thanks again!
Leilanae
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Thanks again!
Leilanae
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