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Victoria Mashevsky
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Radar wanted for one year

Post by Victoria Mashevsky »

Dear Group!
I have to use Radar to submit cases to my school. I already use different program and know that I will not be changing to Radar ,so don't really want to pay $500+ for it. I only need basic/student version for one year. Anybody want to sell it or rent it to me? Name your conditions. Contact me off the loop: skyhomeopathy@gmail.com
~best,
Victoria


Paul Booyse
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Paul Booyse »

Hi Victoria,
why won’t they let you use your “other” program?
regards,
Paul
From: Victoria Mashevsky
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 9:36 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Radar wanted for one year

Dear Group!
I have to use Radar to submit cases to my school. I already use different program and know that I will not be changing to Radar ,so don't really want to pay $500+ for it. I only need basic/student version for one year. Anybody want to sell it or rent it to me? Name your conditions. Contact me off the loop: skyhomeopathy@gmail.com
~best,
Victoria


Victoria Mashevsky
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Victoria Mashevsky »

School policy. Makes some sense. In the past they let people use any program and time was spent discussing difference in programs, leaving very little for the case at hand.
V


Sheri Nakken
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Sheri Nakken »

well Radar is pretty expensive to require it

Sheri

At 08:07 PM 1/5/2013, you wrote:


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Irene de Villiers »

As one who teaches at my school of homeopathy and as a homeopath - I do not agree.
Homeopathy is about the principles of selection of symptoms of the patient (that is where the discussion needs to go) - and finding THOSE symptoms in any repertory (by converting the chosen symptoms to rubrics in that repertory) , followed by study of ANY materia medica - then arriving at the SAME remedy.

It would be good to practice converting an agreed set of relevant patient symptoms (which ALWAYS must come first) , into rubrics for various repertories - that would actually hone repertorizing skills - but it is MOST important to select the properly balanced and representative symptoms of the patient correctly and in proper proportion to relevance, as those will lead to the right rubrics and right remedy using ANY system. Adn in my view THAT's what to learn how to do.
Nobody shod use any program until they are very efficient at repertorizing by hand first.
there's NO other way to LEARN the relative representation of different remedies in the repertory in terms of number of known rubrics for the remedy.
Repertorizing CANNOT be mechanized with a software system, and is only helpful if the student already knows that for example, Phos has TWENTY times the rubric representation of say Asterias.
If you rep by hand a lot, and Aster comes up anywhere near the top twenty remedies, it will stick you in the eye, but not so if you did not learn repping properly by HAND - and learn it WELL - first.
Someone is mismanaging the learning IMO then, instead of directing it to "how to select a remedy" rather than "what does repertory XHU say about symptom pqr". The selection of symptoms as a set comes first - and they SHOULD covert to a rubric set pointing to same remedy - for ANY repertory.

Also - different repertories have different strengths - and it is far better that students know that and use them accordingly.

Namaste,
Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

Of course one helpful tool on RADAR is the ability to search for words.
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Sent: 06 January 2013 11:13
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Radar wanted for one year
As one who teaches at my school of homeopathy and as a homeopath - I do not agree.
Homeopathy is about the principles of selection of symptoms of the patient (that is where the discussion needs to go) - and finding THOSE symptoms in any repertory (by converting the chosen symptoms to rubrics in that repertory) , followed by study of ANY materia medica - then arriving at the SAME remedy.

It would be good to practice converting an agreed set of relevant patient symptoms (which ALWAYS must come first) , into rubrics for various repertories - that would actually hone repertorizing skills - but it is MOST important to select the properly balanced and representative symptoms of the patient correctly and in proper proportion to relevance, as those will lead to the right rubrics and right remedy using ANY system. Adn in my view THAT's what to learn how to do.
Nobody shod use any program until they are very efficient at repertorizing by hand first.
there's NO other way to LEARN the relative representation of different remedies in the repertory in terms of number of known rubrics for the remedy.
Repertorizing CANNOT be mechanized with a software system, and is only helpful if the student already knows that for example, Phos has TWENTY times the rubric representation of say Asterias.
If you rep by hand a lot, and Aster comes up anywhere near the top twenty remedies, it will stick you in the eye, but not so if you did not learn repping properly by HAND - and learn it WELL - first.
Someone is mismanaging the learning IMO then, instead of directing it to "how to select a remedy" rather than "what does repertory XHU say about symptom pqr". The selection of symptoms as a set comes first - and they SHOULD covert to a rubric set pointing to same remedy - for ANY repertory.

Also - different repertories have different strengths - and it is far better that students know that and use them accordingly.

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: furryboots@catlover.com > only
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Rochelle
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Rochelle »

Irene - I agree with you. Students should rep by hand until the 4th (last) year. We learnt on Kent’s Rep which stood us in good stead. Many of us then went onto Murphy’s illegally at the time!! I got my computer programme Cara (now superseded by Isis) in my last year. Re MM in my books Clarke’s is the best and most comprehensive and the one I use although I didn’t until I got my computer programme as I think it is in 20 volumes isn’t it? At college we used good old Boericke and latterly Vermeulen Synoptic which these days I don’t find detailed enough.
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Sent: 06 January 2013 11:13
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Radar wanted for one year
As one who teaches at my school of homeopathy and as a homeopath - I do not agree.
Homeopathy is about the principles of selection of symptoms of the patient (that is where the discussion needs to go) - and finding THOSE symptoms in any repertory (by converting the chosen symptoms to rubrics in that repertory) , followed by study of ANY materia medica - then arriving at the SAME remedy.

It would be good to practice converting an agreed set of relevant patient symptoms (which ALWAYS must come first) , into rubrics for various repertories - that would actually hone repertorizing skills - but it is MOST important to select the properly balanced and representative symptoms of the patient correctly and in proper proportion to relevance, as those will lead to the right rubrics and right remedy using ANY system. Adn in my view THAT's what to learn how to do.
Nobody shod use any program until they are very efficient at repertorizing by hand first.
there's NO other way to LEARN the relative representation of different remedies in the repertory in terms of number of known rubrics for the remedy.
Repertorizing CANNOT be mechanized with a software system, and is only helpful if the student already knows that for example, Phos has TWENTY times the rubric representation of say Asterias.
If you rep by hand a lot, and Aster comes up anywhere near the top twenty remedies, it will stick you in the eye, but not so if you did not learn repping properly by HAND - and learn it WELL - first.
Someone is mismanaging the learning IMO then, instead of directing it to "how to select a remedy" rather than "what does repertory XHU say about symptom pqr". The selection of symptoms as a set comes first - and they SHOULD covert to a rubric set pointing to same remedy - for ANY repertory.

Also - different repertories have different strengths - and it is far better that students know that and use them accordingly.

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: furryboots@catlover.com > only
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Dale Moss
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Dale Moss »

Yes, but so does MacRep, though it is easier to search for words in RADAR. I used RADAR for years, then finally succumbed to the charms of MacRep after watching some of Mangialavori's students do some interesting remedy comparisons with the latter. MacRep's "concept search" function allows one to, say, compare the modalities for Arsenicum and its salts, an interesting exercise if one wishes to see what "Arsenicum" qualities really shine through.
Peace,
Dale


Sheri Nakken
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Sheri Nakken »

I agree totally - should be repping by hand for at least first 2 or 3 years..................you then learn how things are arranged and worded.
Sheri


Paul Booyse
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Re: Radar wanted for one year

Post by Paul Booyse »

Hi Victoria,
I agree that computer rep should be left to the final stages of study. When I taught computer rep to 5th year hom. students, I always did it in a general way that didn’t limit them to one program (I was using Macrep). I focused on techniques and principles on how to use the computer rep to look at the case from different angles, but you still needed to go back to mat med and provings to make a final decision. these techniques were usable from any pc based rep. Then the only difference was – are you going to use Complete or Synthesis, or both?
Of course the best thing ever was when I spilt cooldrink on my laptop. I rescued it, but 6 months later the sugar crystals on the ribbon leading to screen caused the ribbon to break (from opening and closing). So my rep was no more. But then I started listening to patients more and any repping was done in my head. To this day, I still use the computer rep to look at certain rubrics, but the analysis is done in my head and using mat med etc. I call it using “the human repertory”.
Regards,
Paul
From: Victoria Mashevsky
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:07 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Radar wanted for one year

School policy. Makes some sense. In the past they let people use any program and time was spent discussing difference in programs, leaving very little for the case at hand.
V


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