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sheleenhamilton
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by sheleenhamilton »

Hi Everyone
Can anyone help? Our lovely Doberman went for a spay operation today relating to suspected Pyometra. It wasnt pyometra and a tumour was found on one of her ovaries. They have been removed now. I wanted to give her something for her discomfort after the op and Arnica was given when she got home. However Thursday morning she had a dose of Phosphorus. I realise now that it should have been Arnica before the operation. What can I give her to follow. I am concerned about the spread of cancer cells? after the operation. Is there something I should give her now to stop infected cells spreading. Any advice would be helpful. Also she had regularly shown aggression to the other smaller dogs in our household what are your thoughts about this. Vaccinosis or could it be relating to tumor? Or both? I did read that you cannot follow Phosphorus with Causticum. I am undecided and need advice. Thankyou in anticipation!!


comdyne2002
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by comdyne2002 »

Give the dog ESSIAC tea and line the bed with north pole ceramic block magnets. Also put out two water bowls, one normal (no chlorine or fluoride) and the other with some sea salt in it. The dog will then pick the one it needs. Most animals are deficient in salt which is why they lick you. www.lulu.com/comdyne Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

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Sheleen Hamilton
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by Sheleen Hamilton »

Thanks!
Sheleen

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From: comdyne2002
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 10:22
Subject: [Minutus] Tumor on Ovary
Give the dog ESSIAC tea and line the bed with north pole ceramic block magnets. Also put out two water bowls, one normal (no chlorine or fluoride) and the other with some sea salt in it. The dog will then pick the one it needs. Most animals are deficient in salt which is why they lick you. www.lulu.com/comdyne Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

eBay #320993184908 Stack them for more power. 1/4" are the best to use.


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Tumor? Not ovarian cysts?
I only ask because ovarian cysts have the same symptoms as the "suspected pyometra" but tumors (you seem to know/assume cancerous tumors) usually have different symptoms.
I would repertorize the case to find a matched remedy for the situation that existed before the surgery - mental and physical. (Caust is not proved for ovarian cancer).

I'd also use plenty of antioxidants, and healthy foods, but only ones suitable for carnivores - animal source antioxidants - (NOT herbs or fruit or veg - most herbs are toxic to dogs) - like Fish oil, Vit E mixed tocopherals, Taurine, Ascorbic acid, Alpha lipoic acid, New Zealand Green-Lipped mussel extract.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by Irene de Villiers »

I do not know where you get that idea from:-)

Research shows many reasons that animals use licking, and it varies by species. Licking of others (including humans) in dogs and cats is usually for grooming or greeting, and they are NOT deficient in salt!
Nor do humans lick for want of salt:-)

In fact if you offer cats and dogs Nori with salt added and Nori with no sodium as it comes - they will decline the salty one every time.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Elham Mohajer
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by Elham Mohajer »

for the time being give her Staph

Best regards
Elham


Sheleen Hamilton
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Tumor on Ovary

Post by Sheleen Hamilton »

Well it doesnt matter any more but thanks to all for the tips. She died the next day of we think clot/seizure. I can't believe it. I had asked last year if she had heart problem and took her to one vet with persistent cough also. He said Bronchitius or Laryingitis. Wanted to pump her full of crap. He then said she had a heart murmur and gave her anesthesia for an xray to be taken of the heart and throat (because I was thinking it could be a bit of bone stuck). After the xray he said she needed more xrays because he couldnt tell from one. I was not happy because the top of her head was pulsating up and down and I was freaking out. The vet wasnt even present he left the nurse to do the xray. So when she had to have the op for suspected pyometra I was terrified because of anesthesia again. The week before op I got an email newsletter about the dangers of Anesthesia and certain breeds it not working out well. Of course the doberman was listed. We tried to find gas alternative but in BG there didnt seem to be a choice. My partner was researching and went to a vet with good reviews he was very positive all would be ok. He removed the ovaries and one had a tumour on it. Next day she was dead. The week before she was give 4 injections by a different vet to try to stop her season which was ongoing for too long. This vet when asked to confirm heart murmur said "probably" OMG! I had consulted with a Homeopath last June who started treating her for aggression towards our other smaller dogs. Of course I had given her all of the symptoms for the dog not just the aggression but she got worse. So I am gutted because she was by my side every minute of the day and I havent seen her for the last three months because I have been trying to help my ailing sick parents. Life really sucks sometimes. The Homeopath refused to continue with treatment whilst I was not at home despite my regular detailed reports via my partner. Even when I asked for advice pre op - so Im a bit pissed with the world of professionals right now. I really would have loved support before as I paid my fee. I dont trust Doctors and now vets are on that list too. No one seems to be interested in even doing their job anymore. How sad. My advice to everyone is make sure you do your own research and it will be likely that you will know more than the professional.


Sheleen Hamilton
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by Sheleen Hamilton »

Check out zoopharmacognosy - lots of videos on youtube. The animal chooses the medicine/herb. There are some interesting ones. Especially the one about the aggressive goat.

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From: Irene de Villiers
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2012, 10:52
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Tumor on Ovary
I do not know where you get that idea from:-)

Research shows many reasons that animals use licking, and it varies by species. Licking of others (including humans) in dogs and cats is usually for grooming or greeting, and they are NOT deficient in salt!
Nor do humans lick for want of salt:-)

In fact if you offer cats and dogs Nori with salt added and Nori with no sodium as it comes - they will decline the salty one every time.

Namaste,
Irene

REPLY TO: > only
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by Irene de Villiers »

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8963737

Occult cardiomyopathy can be identified by means of echocardiography and Holter monitoring in Doberman Pinschers. Doberman Pinschers with cardiomyopathy that had episodes of sustained (> 30 seconds) ventricular tachycardia were at risk of dying suddenly.
I'm so sorry Shaleen, that you lost your Doberman.
Occult (hidden) cardiomyopathy is quite common in the Doberman breed - and if not checked before surgery, it can be life threatening or lethal in this breed. It can be identified by means of echocardiography and Holter monitoring. Doberman Pinschers with cardiomyopathy that have episodes of sustained (> 30 seconds) ventricular tachycardia are at risk of dying suddenly as shown in a number of studies such as this 1996 research:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8963737

I'm not able to guess what went wrong here - just mentioning for future that there is a test and it is worth doing in Dobermans needing anesthesia and/or surgery.
Again - there's a better option to surgery for pyometra. It responds very readily to pyrogenium in F series potencies. (For Fibonacci series, which I'm calling "F series", see the books by Dr Joe Rozencwajg explaining this major advance in treatment by homeopathy.)
BG - Bulgaria I presume?
(Your email looks UK.)
The Bulgarian veterinary research looks up to snuff, with full text available free in English, which I find impressive. (American research papers average $35 each):
http://tru.uni-sz.bg/bjvm/bjvm.htm
Here too homeopathy has better answers than drugs. Folliculinum 200C is an option to switch off a call at earliest sign. Contraceptive-related drugs are quite commonly used in Europe for animals, but due to VERY severe side effects in animals like dogs (with their large uterus for multiple births, which requires *huge* drug doses compared to single birth animals), such drugs are generally banned in USA (where drugs are NOT often banned!).
So there are multiple options that may have played a part in the sad demise of your doberman.
I do not know what happened with your homeopath either - but just as all vets are not bad, nor are all homeopaths bad.
I don't think so, exactly. Just needs the right professional.
The professional has had multiple years of in depth training - and it is wise to check that they DID have multiple years and not some weekend course.
Many do NOT keep up with research. ASK about that.
For example IMO, vets should KNOW that Dobermans tend to occult cardiomyopathy and homeopaths should know that F series potencies work better. ANd if they do not, then it is wise to give them a heads up!
SO _ Where I agree with you is that it is very important to be as informed in the relevant area as you can, and to be sure to understand and ask questions and change professionals if you do not get answers or a person who works WITH you.

So sorry about your loss.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Sheleen Hamilton
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Joined: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:00 pm

Re: Tumor on Ovary

Post by Sheleen Hamilton »

Hi Irene and everyone who has emailed.
We consulted with three separate vets about her heart problem query!!! and a highly recommended Homeopath who left us high and dry when we most needed her. I did research and inform all of them about my suspicions but not one of the 4 professionals consulted managed to suggest anything. Oh, hang on yes there was the gas anaesthsia solution. However in Bulgaria it didnt seem to have this facility anywhere. I lost respect for GPs a long time ago over my own chronic disease and I think I will be adding vets to this list now after what I have learnt in the past 18 months about the benefits of raw feeding and the dangers of vaccinations. I was amazed by Homeopathy but now I feel very very disappointed with the Homeopath. It is hard to find the true professionals who know their subject and actually seem to be interested or care especially in BG. The most annoying thing of all is that we thought the final vet knew what he was doing. He reassured my partner that everything would be fine and I dont know if he did any tests before the surgery. He was advised that we had big big concerns. We gave a detailed history. My problem now is trying to find a really good vet for our three remaining dogs.
Thank you for taking the time to respond and the informaton. She was so beautiful and everything you could ever wish for. At least I know she had 5 years of total spoiling and luxury, instead of a life tied up in a garden every day without love, kindness, exercise and just some stale bread for food. This is the normal way the locals treat their dogs.
________________________________

From: Irene de Villiers
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2012, 11:16
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Tumor on Ovary
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8963737

Occult cardiomyopathy can be identified by means of echocardiography and Holter monitoring in Doberman Pinschers. Doberman Pinschers with cardiomyopathy that had episodes of sustained (> 30 seconds) ventricular tachycardia were at risk of dying suddenly.
I'm so sorry Shaleen, that you lost your Doberman.
Occult (hidden) cardiomyopathy is quite common in the Doberman breed - and if not checked before surgery, it can be life threatening or lethal in this breed. It can be identified by means of echocardiography and Holter monitoring. Doberman Pinschers with cardiomyopathy that have episodes of sustained (> 30 seconds) ventricular tachycardia are at risk of dying suddenly as shown in a number of studies such as this 1996 research:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8963737

I'm not able to guess what went wrong here - just mentioning for future that there is a test and it is worth doing in Dobermans needing anesthesia and/or surgery.
Again - there's a better option to surgery for pyometra. It responds very readily to pyrogenium in F series potencies. (For Fibonacci series, which I'm calling "F series", see the books by Dr Joe Rozencwajg explaining this major advance in treatment by homeopathy.)
BG - Bulgaria I presume?
(Your email looks UK.)
The Bulgarian veterinary research looks up to snuff, with full text available free in English, which I find impressive. (American research papers average $35 each):
http://tru.uni-sz.bg/bjvm/bjvm.htm
Here too homeopathy has better answers than drugs. Folliculinum 200C is an option to switch off a call at earliest sign. Contraceptive-related drugs are quite commonly used in Europe for animals, but due to VERY severe side effects in animals like dogs (with their large uterus for multiple births, which requires *huge* drug doses compared to single birth animals), such drugs are generally banned in USA (where drugs are NOT often banned!).

So there are multiple options that may have played a part in the sad demise of your doberman.
I do not know what happened with your homeopath either - but just as all vets are not bad, nor are all homeopaths bad.
I don't think so, exactly. Just needs the right professional.
The professional has had multiple years of in depth training - and it is wise to check that they DID have multiple years and not some weekend course.
Many do NOT keep up with research. ASK about that.
For example IMO, vets should KNOW that Dobermans tend to occult cardiomyopathy and homeopaths should know that F series potencies work better. ANd if they do not, then it is wise to give them a heads up!
SO _ Where I agree with you is that it is very important to be as informed in the relevant area as you can, and to be sure to understand and ask questions and change professionals if you do not get answers or a person who works WITH you.

So sorry about your loss.
Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


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