Ruptured Baker's cyst

[Dale Moss]

My hubby has a ruptured Baker's cyst behind his left knee. The original "cyst" forms when synovial fluid leaks into the popliteal space; when it ruptures, the fluid leaks out into the lower leg, causing it to swell to elephantine proportions.
There's no heat, no redness, but considerable swelling, pain, and heaviness of the calf. The skin is tight; no pitting on pressure. I started him on Calc-fl. two days ago. It seems to be helping the pain around the knee, but not doing much for the swelling. He's on crutches, enforced inactivity, and the occasional Advil. Leg is elevated, of course, and twice a day I gently rub it in an upward direction.
Does anyone have any experience treating these? I know that the conventional options are few. Cortisone shots and aspiration are used for intact Baker's cysts, but I'm not sure if there's even any allopathic treatment for a ruptured one. Nor have I any idea how long it will take his body to resorb the leaked fluid.
Any suggestions?
Peace,
Dale

[D C Rona]

The people with the most experience in treating Baker's cysts are orthopedists – and THE best resource would be a professional team sports specialist. When I had one (slightly larger than golf ball size in the knee) it was 2 weeks before national competition – so I did allow the cortisone shot (this was before I studied homeopathy). Had I gone to a general orthopedist I would have been in real trouble – but the professional sports specialists are much more aware of 'effective' action – they make their living getting working athletes back in the game quickly. If you have any professional sports team in your area – find out who they use and give them a call. If anyone would have 'realistic' information about a ruptured Baker's cyst – they would be the ones. Not that you follow their course of treatment – but they may have better information about the nature of the secondary irritations, and also clearing the leaked fluid. That information could help you find an effective homeopathic remedy. The European professional sports doctors are very happy to use homeopathy – and some of the US team doctors are too – so you may even find a useful ally.

After my incident (and some damage repairs) I was told I would need both knees replaced within a year. I used detox and herbals to completely remove all problems – and never saw those doctors again.

Donna

D C Rona PhD, ND, DHM
www.NaturopathOnTheWeb.com
www.ModernHolisticHealth.com
Rona@consultant.com
From: Dale Moss >
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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:45:32 -0400
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Subject: [Minutus] Ruptured Baker's cyst
My hubby has a ruptured Baker's cyst behind his left knee. The original "cyst" forms when synovial fluid leaks into the popliteal space; when it ruptures, the fluid leaks out into the lower leg, causing it to swell to elephantine proportions.
There's no heat, no redness, but considerable swelling, pain, and heaviness of the calf. The skin is tight; no pitting on pressure. I started him on Calc-fl. two days ago. It seems to be helping the pain around the knee, but not doing much for the swelling. He's on crutches, enforced inactivity, and the occasional Advil. Leg is elevated, of course, and twice a day I gently rub it in an upward direction.
Does anyone have any experience treating these? I know that the conventional options are few. Cortisone shots and aspiration are used for intact Baker's cysts, but I'm not sure if there's even any allopathic treatment for a ruptured one. Nor have I any idea how long it will take his body to resorb the leaked fluid.
Any suggestions?
Peace,
Dale

[Mohammad]

Dale

Please forget the ruptured cyst and try to find a remedy similar to patient's totality of symptoms, to treat the patient. If patient is treated logically cyst will also be treated being patient's part. Can you give us patient's recent set of symptoms, his/her present and past medical history. Irfan Qureshi

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[Marco Franzreb]

The question is if there is a meniscal tear. If he had no such symptoms previously, it will probabaly resolve. If in doubt do an MRI
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The people with the most experience in treating Baker's cysts are orthopedists – and THE best resource would be a professional team sports specialist. When I had one (slightly larger than golf ball size in the knee) it was 2 weeks before national competition – so I did allow the cortisone shot (this was before I studied homeopathy). Had I gone to a general orthopedist I would have been in real trouble – but the professional sports specialists are much more aware of 'effective' action – they make their living getting working athletes back in the game quickly. If you have any professional sports team in your area – find out who they use and give them a call. If anyone would have 'realistic' information about a ruptured Baker's cyst – they would be the ones. Not that you follow their course of treatment – but they may have better information about the nature of the secondary irritations, and also clearing the leaked fluid. That information could help you find an effective homeopathic remedy. The European professional sports doctors are very happy to use homeopathy – and some of the US team doctors are too – so you may even find a useful ally.

After my incident (and some damage repairs) I was told I would need both knees replaced within a year. I used detox and herbals to completely remove all problems – and never saw those doctors again.

Donna

D C Rona PhD, ND, DHM
www.NaturopathOnTheWeb.com
www.ModernHolisticHealth.com
Rona@consultant.com
From: Dale Moss >
Reply-To: >
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:45:32 -0400
To: Minutus >
Subject: [Minutus] Ruptured Baker's cyst
My hubby has a ruptured Baker's cyst behind his left knee. The original "cyst" forms when synovial fluid leaks into the popliteal space; when it ruptures, the fluid leaks out into the lower leg, causing it to swell to elephantine proportions.
There's no heat, no redness, but considerable swelling, pain, and heaviness of the calf. The skin is tight; no pitting on pressure. I started him on Calc-fl. two days ago. It seems to be helping the pain around the knee, but not doing much for the swelling. He's on crutches, enforced inactivity, and the occasional Advil. Leg is elevated, of course, and twice a day I gently rub it in an upward direction.
Does anyone have any experience treating these? I know that the conventional options are few. Cortisone shots and aspiration are used for intact Baker's cysts, but I'm not sure if there's even any allopathic treatment for a ruptured one. Nor have I any idea how long it will take his body to resorb the leaked fluid.
Any suggestions?
Peace,
Dale

[healthinfo6]

Dale,
A few months ago I gave Arnica gel topical to someone with an inflamed knee and leg swelling.. This person had fell on it but also will need a knee replacement in the future due to prior trauma from leg being run over by a car, surgery and various knee/joint/synovial fluid, etc. complications. MD's did not want to aspirate for fear of spreading infection. Arnica seemed to work well.
Seperately, this person has used 5-Loxin, which is Boswelia extract, aka Indian Frankincense. It is sold seperately or in formulas like Osteo Biflex.
Tumeric extract was also helpful, and rubbing cayenne pepper in oil over area, both anti-inflammatory. I've used 5 Loxin which helps with joint pain.
Susan

[Gisela Ahrendt]

I had the same thing happening to me - used Apis 30C - two to three times per day for 2 days - all better swelling went down immediately and it has not returned - this was 2 years ago.
Gisela Di Carlo Di Hom
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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:45:32 -0400
Subject: [Minutus] Ruptured Baker's cyst
My hubby has a ruptured Baker's cyst behind his left knee. The original "cyst" forms when synovial fluid leaks into the popliteal space; when it ruptures, the fluid leaks out into the lower leg, causing it to swell to elephantine proportions.
There's no heat, no redness, but considerable swelling, pain, and heaviness of the calf. The skin is tight; no pitting on pressure. I started him on Calc-fl. two days ago. It seems to be helping the pain around the knee, but not doing much for the swelling. He's on crutches, enforced inactivity, and the occasional Advil. Leg is elevated, of course, and twice a day I gently rub it in an upward direction.
Does anyone have any experience treating these? I know that the conventional options are few. Cortisone shots and aspiration are used for intact Baker's cysts, but I'm not sure if there's even any allopathic treatment for a ruptured one. Nor have I any idea how long it will take his body to resorb the leaked fluid.
Any suggestions?
Peace,
Dale

[Dale Moss]

Thanks, Gisela. He's been doing fine on the Calc-fl. but will require arthroscopic surgery. Too much debris in the joint. Bone spurs were one of the reasons I chose that remedy.
Peace,
Dale
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[Shannon Nelson]

I wonder if hot bathing and/or wrapping the leg with heating pad would help to eliminate the fluid? Or on a related line of thought, castor oil pack to knee and swollen leg, wrapped in heating pad(s). Castor oil packs are just amazing at drawing out "impurities", and between that and the heat...? I have sometimes done a milder, but still seemed effective, version by skipping the heating pad and instead wrapping the bodypart and castor oil pack in layers of plastic (plastic bags worked okay for me) and letting body heat provide the warmth. Just a thought...

Shannon
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[Dale Moss]

A castor oil pack is a great idea! Too bad I didn't think of it first. It's been years since I've used one -- don't even know where my special cloths are.
Sometimes, I've learned, you don't want the patient to feel TOO good, or he thinks he's all healed and can do whatever. I had to restrain DH from trying to hang sheetrock today.
Peace,
Dale
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