With THANKS to my colleague Brenda.
Soroush
From: Brenda O'Brien [mailto:brenda@brendaobrien.co.uk]
Sent: 13 October 2011 11:12
To: Brenda O'Brien
Subject: resuls of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
Dear All
For info on the results of the recent survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children just follow link below
http://www.vaccineinjury.info/vaccinati ... esses.html
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Brenda
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results of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: results of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, finrod@finrod.co.uk wrote:
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
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Re: results of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
That is why people need to organize and work in a coordinated way to prevent this from happening.
Most states have some exemption basis for refusing vaccines for their children. The effort, via the FDA,
is to eliminate exemptions. This can and will happen unless people get their collective acts together and
fight back. Doctors refuse many of the vaccines. That is how we got out of enforced smallpox vaccines after
9-11.
tanya
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, finrod@finrod.co.uk wrote:
Most states have some exemption basis for refusing vaccines for their children. The effort, via the FDA,
is to eliminate exemptions. This can and will happen unless people get their collective acts together and
fight back. Doctors refuse many of the vaccines. That is how we got out of enforced smallpox vaccines after
9-11.
tanya
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
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Re: results of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
Wait, what is the FDA doing now? I missed something (else).
Shannon
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
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Shannon
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
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Re: results of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
The broad based effort in the US is to eliminate all vaccine exemptions. The FDA supports Big Pharma
vaccines and sets the rules around all drugs. The CDC, which I didn't mention pushes vaccines even
tho they know they don't work, impair the immune system, and cause conditions of autism, add, adha,
RA, and other autoimmune deficiency diseases.
t
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, finrod@finrod.co.uk > wrote:
vaccines and sets the rules around all drugs. The CDC, which I didn't mention pushes vaccines even
tho they know they don't work, impair the immune system, and cause conditions of autism, add, adha,
RA, and other autoimmune deficiency diseases.
t
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
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Re: results of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
I thought I heard that they made it mandatory in TX (was I wrong? I hope so). If parents are brought to court, for no vaccinating their children, couldn't they be charged w/ neglect....even w/ the evidence? Though on an different topic, one parent wanted to use alternative treatment for their child who had cancer, but the doctors threatened them and so they gave into the chemotherapy. Another parent actually had their kids taken away from them because they refused the conventional treatments and wanted to use the alternative methods.
Thanks for all the info.
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, finrod@finrod.co.uk wrote:
Thanks for all the info.
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, finrod@finrod.co.uk wrote:
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Re: results of health survey of unvaccinated v vaccinated children
there have a number of cases besides the 2 you mention. the kid with chemo was a teenager. he had gone thru chemo and the rest of the medical abuse.
the parents used alternative methods and the kid was in remission. the courts took the kid and basically jailed him to force the parents into submission.
in w.va 2 yrs ago i think, they brought all these parents into court with the kids, put assault rifles to them and forced the kids to take a full battery of vaccines
without any regard to previous history of vaccines or health. afterwards, the governor says he wouldn't vax his kids!!! my blood is still boiling over on that one.
in nys the health commissioner wanted to make every cdc recommended vax mandatory. he lost that one but immediately went into an effort to mandate the
gardisil vax. fortunately he lost. now he wants to eliminate all exemptions.
california just passed a bill allowing vaccines to be given w/o parental consent; ie, getting kids to make the choice as if they had the power to do so.
but we need to remember that the US has a very long history of forcing drugs on people w/o knowledge or consent. further, the courts have been used to
force people to submit. do you recall in the '70's women, usually Black or Mexican were being forced sterilized via the courts or they would lose their kids.
the men they forced them into the military to avoid jail. during the Gulf War I people who refused the vaccines were threatened and even held down and injected.
and we still get 'revelations' of illegally forcing drugs on people for a bevy or reasons. the MCULTRA experiments where they use psychodelic drugs and other
mind altering drugs to try and effect mind control of people who would do the CIA's bidding. and need i talk about the Tuskgegee syphillis affair. the South American
version of this has recently come to the public surface.
i know this all sounds so sci-fi, but these are known situations--it is very sinister stuff. so why is it surprising that they are trying to prep the public for a total all out
assault of vaccines by the dozens, none of which will be tested in any meaningful way.
tanya
I thought I heard that they made it mandatory in TX (was I wrong? I hope so). If parents are brought to court, for no vaccinating their children, couldn't they be charged w/ neglect....even w/ the evidence? Though on an different topic, one parent wanted to use alternative treatment for their child who had cancer, but the doctors threatened them and so they gave into the chemotherapy. Another parent actually had their kids taken away from them because they refused the conventional treatments and wanted to use the alternative methods.
Thanks for all the info.
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, finrod@finrod.co.uk wrote:
the parents used alternative methods and the kid was in remission. the courts took the kid and basically jailed him to force the parents into submission.
in w.va 2 yrs ago i think, they brought all these parents into court with the kids, put assault rifles to them and forced the kids to take a full battery of vaccines
without any regard to previous history of vaccines or health. afterwards, the governor says he wouldn't vax his kids!!! my blood is still boiling over on that one.
in nys the health commissioner wanted to make every cdc recommended vax mandatory. he lost that one but immediately went into an effort to mandate the
gardisil vax. fortunately he lost. now he wants to eliminate all exemptions.
california just passed a bill allowing vaccines to be given w/o parental consent; ie, getting kids to make the choice as if they had the power to do so.
but we need to remember that the US has a very long history of forcing drugs on people w/o knowledge or consent. further, the courts have been used to
force people to submit. do you recall in the '70's women, usually Black or Mexican were being forced sterilized via the courts or they would lose their kids.
the men they forced them into the military to avoid jail. during the Gulf War I people who refused the vaccines were threatened and even held down and injected.
and we still get 'revelations' of illegally forcing drugs on people for a bevy or reasons. the MCULTRA experiments where they use psychodelic drugs and other
mind altering drugs to try and effect mind control of people who would do the CIA's bidding. and need i talk about the Tuskgegee syphillis affair. the South American
version of this has recently come to the public surface.
i know this all sounds so sci-fi, but these are known situations--it is very sinister stuff. so why is it surprising that they are trying to prep the public for a total all out
assault of vaccines by the dozens, none of which will be tested in any meaningful way.
tanya
I thought I heard that they made it mandatory in TX (was I wrong? I hope so). If parents are brought to court, for no vaccinating their children, couldn't they be charged w/ neglect....even w/ the evidence? Though on an different topic, one parent wanted to use alternative treatment for their child who had cancer, but the doctors threatened them and so they gave into the chemotherapy. Another parent actually had their kids taken away from them because they refused the conventional treatments and wanted to use the alternative methods.
Thanks for all the info.
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Thank you for this link.
But my question is what happens when the state mandates that every child get vaccinated? What if they threaten to take away your child? What if they refuse your child for school b/c they are not vaccinated? I have heard about cases where this has happened. Any suggestions?
--- On Thu, 10/13/11, finrod@finrod.co.uk wrote: