quantum universe vs molecular universe
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quantum universe vs molecular universe
Hi,
I am trying to explain my thoughts on how homeopathy works to my
scientific husband. He has a background in physics and chemistry. He
says that the wave used to describe energy in Quantum physics includes
an imaginary number and therefore cannot be related to the waves used
to describe molecular energy. The mathematical formulas are the same
except for the added imaginary number.
In my universe, there is only one universe. Everything is related.
You don't have the dynamics of atoms separate from the dynamics of
molecules with no relationship between them. It just does not make
intuitive sense. My spiritual side is not separate from my body side
I can only think there is some huge lack of knowledge between the
universe with an imaginary number and the one without. Does anyone
have some enlightening thoughts on this black hole?
Blessings,
ellen
I am trying to explain my thoughts on how homeopathy works to my
scientific husband. He has a background in physics and chemistry. He
says that the wave used to describe energy in Quantum physics includes
an imaginary number and therefore cannot be related to the waves used
to describe molecular energy. The mathematical formulas are the same
except for the added imaginary number.
In my universe, there is only one universe. Everything is related.
You don't have the dynamics of atoms separate from the dynamics of
molecules with no relationship between them. It just does not make
intuitive sense. My spiritual side is not separate from my body side
I can only think there is some huge lack of knowledge between the
universe with an imaginary number and the one without. Does anyone
have some enlightening thoughts on this black hole?
Blessings,
ellen
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Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
This is THE question about homeopathy so it is not strange to have difficulty
explaning the material process of how it works.
My belief is that the vast majority of homeopaths over the years were more interested
in the experiential evidence of homeopathy working. That has satisfied people as
their dis-ease states healed and their lives improved. For many the reaction to a remedy
has been quite dramatic and immediate when correctly treated.
However, today we have intellectual assaults levied at homeopathy coming from the
economic and political efforts of big pharma/chema and the medical institutions to
maintain control and reap huge profits. The arguments tend to focus on a demand
for material explanations of the process--this despite the lack of such evidence for a
vast majority of allopathic practice. This effort is such that many people don't even
know they are being suckered into this attack without any perspective of how they are
being manipulated.
That being said, it is interesting to look at the work in the energy fields. We seem to
have 2 themes being demonstrated in physics, mainly. First, there is the research that
shows that there is something going on with water treated with remedies. We have the
memory of water work. And we have research that shows the energetic differences as
captured on graphs of energy frequencies. There are other studies that indicate our
highly dilute and successes remedy solutions have potencies. Then there is the work
that shows that when you treat a body cell with light and energy frequencies, the cell
emits light that is picked up by other cells throughout the body. So there is an energetic
communication ongoing throughout the body.
These types of research are what we have now to back up the clinical evidence of what
we do. I know this is a very simple type of summary, but it is what I generally have come
to understand of the available 'science' on how homeopathy works. I think your husband
will have to show the same type of open mindedness and curiosity that is often shown
when new ideas are being explored. And patience, too.
tanya
explaning the material process of how it works.
My belief is that the vast majority of homeopaths over the years were more interested
in the experiential evidence of homeopathy working. That has satisfied people as
their dis-ease states healed and their lives improved. For many the reaction to a remedy
has been quite dramatic and immediate when correctly treated.
However, today we have intellectual assaults levied at homeopathy coming from the
economic and political efforts of big pharma/chema and the medical institutions to
maintain control and reap huge profits. The arguments tend to focus on a demand
for material explanations of the process--this despite the lack of such evidence for a
vast majority of allopathic practice. This effort is such that many people don't even
know they are being suckered into this attack without any perspective of how they are
being manipulated.
That being said, it is interesting to look at the work in the energy fields. We seem to
have 2 themes being demonstrated in physics, mainly. First, there is the research that
shows that there is something going on with water treated with remedies. We have the
memory of water work. And we have research that shows the energetic differences as
captured on graphs of energy frequencies. There are other studies that indicate our
highly dilute and successes remedy solutions have potencies. Then there is the work
that shows that when you treat a body cell with light and energy frequencies, the cell
emits light that is picked up by other cells throughout the body. So there is an energetic
communication ongoing throughout the body.
These types of research are what we have now to back up the clinical evidence of what
we do. I know this is a very simple type of summary, but it is what I generally have come
to understand of the available 'science' on how homeopathy works. I think your husband
will have to show the same type of open mindedness and curiosity that is often shown
when new ideas are being explored. And patience, too.
tanya
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Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
This might sound as beside the point, but maybe it isn't:
everything is energy, including molecules, atoms, quarks,
and what have you. There is no such thing as 'mass', and if
you ever find such a thing as 'mass', it is only a temporary
manifestation of some sort of energy, leading you to think
it is mass. The various manifestations of energy are far
beyond those, considered possible by regular science.
They'll get to realising that, but it may take some time.
Ellen Madono schreef:
everything is energy, including molecules, atoms, quarks,
and what have you. There is no such thing as 'mass', and if
you ever find such a thing as 'mass', it is only a temporary
manifestation of some sort of energy, leading you to think
it is mass. The various manifestations of energy are far
beyond those, considered possible by regular science.
They'll get to realising that, but it may take some time.
Ellen Madono schreef:
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Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
Hi Tanya,
He is now looking into what theoretical physists have to say about sound resonance.
I am interested in waves as representation of resonance because I am looking for a simple way to explain why the similum works better than remedies made from the disease causing organism, or the diseased tissue.
No one is asking me, but I feel like they should be asking me these questions and I am writing answers to these questions on a website that I am writing in Japanese. I may avoid this one, but, I think about it.
Best,
Ellen
He is now looking into what theoretical physists have to say about sound resonance.
I am interested in waves as representation of resonance because I am looking for a simple way to explain why the similum works better than remedies made from the disease causing organism, or the diseased tissue.
No one is asking me, but I feel like they should be asking me these questions and I am writing answers to these questions on a website that I am writing in Japanese. I may avoid this one, but, I think about it.
Best,
Ellen
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Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
Hi Ellen,
The remedy works better because the patient has a sensitivity or susceptibility to morbific influences (aph 31). Ipsofacto they are not susceptible (or vulnerable) to non-simillimum type influences. A simillimum can affect the person's VF specifically because it stresses them at those points of vulnerability. A disease (pathology) is but one manifestation of that vulnerable state. It is not representative of the total vulnerability. The remedy is "the kryptonite" to the vulnerable VF state.
A "disease extract" remedy is only a one-sided representation of the totality and is unlikely to be simillimum unless that is the actual representation of the total. A remedy is similar to the totality.
Regards,
Paul
The remedy works better because the patient has a sensitivity or susceptibility to morbific influences (aph 31). Ipsofacto they are not susceptible (or vulnerable) to non-simillimum type influences. A simillimum can affect the person's VF specifically because it stresses them at those points of vulnerability. A disease (pathology) is but one manifestation of that vulnerable state. It is not representative of the total vulnerability. The remedy is "the kryptonite" to the vulnerable VF state.
A "disease extract" remedy is only a one-sided representation of the totality and is unlikely to be simillimum unless that is the actual representation of the total. A remedy is similar to the totality.
Regards,
Paul
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Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
Thanks, Paul.
Yes Shannon is right. Going off into shamanic/astrological space will not speak to those scientific types. Anyone can understand Hahnaman's perspective if you just translate it as you have "points of vulnerability". I am coming back to earth.
I should use my husband as a barameter of the limits of scientific thinking. If he blows up from what looks to me like a metaphor, then it is not going to communicate.
I talked to him about Buddhist ideas of emotional training, and the ideas did not arouse an explosion. Seems no less spacy to me than quantum physics, but he had all of the cultural terms already implanted in his brain so no problem.
Thanks,
Ellen
Yes Shannon is right. Going off into shamanic/astrological space will not speak to those scientific types. Anyone can understand Hahnaman's perspective if you just translate it as you have "points of vulnerability". I am coming back to earth.
I should use my husband as a barameter of the limits of scientific thinking. If he blows up from what looks to me like a metaphor, then it is not going to communicate.
I talked to him about Buddhist ideas of emotional training, and the ideas did not arouse an explosion. Seems no less spacy to me than quantum physics, but he had all of the cultural terms already implanted in his brain so no problem.
Thanks,
Ellen
Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
What's the big deal? There is no black hole unless you want there to be one. Homeopathy is governed by some natural laws and also we use medicines just like allopaths do but we potentise because Hahnemann's homeopathy revealed how fundamental that is - minimum dose.
If you only talk in terms of 'energy' then that is blindfolding basic issues of disease and wellness as well as Hahnemann's methods that secure the simillimum.
Give him an Organon to read and maybe together read § 29 - that's the one that follows Hahnemann's statement about not getting in a tizzy in trying to understand how it all works but we should at least have the basics
If we read and re-read the Organon we would all have better understanding and no real need to talk in abstract terms.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk
If you only talk in terms of 'energy' then that is blindfolding basic issues of disease and wellness as well as Hahnemann's methods that secure the simillimum.
Give him an Organon to read and maybe together read § 29 - that's the one that follows Hahnemann's statement about not getting in a tizzy in trying to understand how it all works but we should at least have the basics

If we read and re-read the Organon we would all have better understanding and no real need to talk in abstract terms.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://www.streetcollege.co.uk
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Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
Telling the scientific mind to just "shut up" because Hahnemann said so is not a good way to establish communications. We need to choose our topics to suit the person we are speaking to.
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Re: quantum universe vs molecular universe
You raise issues that can be very complicated in today's world. However, what I have learned
is that we all operate out of some core philosophical understandings. The
is that we all operate out of some core philosophical understandings. The