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Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
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Varun Gupta
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Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
The practice of replacing conventional vaccinations with Homeopathic alternatives is not advisable at all and can also prove very dangerous.
This is properly explained in the latter part of sixth chapter in my book "Varun's Theory" with proper scientific explanations.........
Varun
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http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
This is properly explained in the latter part of sixth chapter in my book "Varun's Theory" with proper scientific explanations.........
Varun
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http://eyevarun.spaces.live.com
http://facebook.com/eyevarun
http://twitter.com/eyevarun
http://eyevarun.wordpress.com
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
Actually some people do a form of homeoprophylaxis which is indeed sometimes referred to as "homeopathic vaccination." E.g. Isaac Golden's work, which actually does show very positive results...
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
-
Varun Gupta
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Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
It is easy to say that vaccines of any kind are harmful but do we really have a way to avoid to them, at least the very basic ones. The answer is simply no.
I know the concept of Homeoprohylaxis and many Homeo docs have extended it to Homeopathic vaccinations today and are giving administrating medicines on that note and that cannot be ignored or denied in any way.
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You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
I know the concept of Homeoprohylaxis and many Homeo docs have extended it to Homeopathic vaccinations today and are giving administrating medicines on that note and that cannot be ignored or denied in any way.
Varun
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http://eyevarun.spaces.live.com
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You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
-
Shannon Nelson
- Posts: 8848
- Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:00 pm
Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
I have not found them hard to avoid! None of my family has had any (conventional or homeopathic); neither in my family of birth, nor the family that I birthed.
Many families have done the same...
Shannon
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
Many families have done the same...
Shannon
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
-
Varun Gupta
- Posts: 96
- Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:00 pm
Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
Wowwwww..... Great to know that Shannon.....
Varun
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
Varun
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
-
Soroush Ebrahimi
- Moderator
- Posts: 4510
- Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:00 pm
Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
Dear Varun
Let us put the question another way.
Which vaccine is safe and effective?
By the way, now that I know about vaccine damage, neither grandchildren has been vaccinated.
Rgds
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Varun Gupta
Sent: 25 September 2010 22:27
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
It is easy to say that vaccines of any kind are harmful but do we really have a way to avoid to them, at least the very basic ones. The answer is simply no.
I know the concept of Homeoprohylaxis and many Homeo docs have extended it to Homeopathic vaccinations today and are giving administrating medicines on that note and that cannot be ignored or denied in any way.
Varun
http://eyevarun.blogspot.com
http://eyevarun.spaces.live.com
http://facebook.com/eyevarun
http://twitter.com/eyevarun
http://eyevarun.wordpress.com
Actually some people do a form of homeoprophylaxis which is indeed sometimes referred to as "homeopathic vaccination." E.g. Isaac Golden's work, which actually does show very positive results...
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
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Let us put the question another way.
Which vaccine is safe and effective?
By the way, now that I know about vaccine damage, neither grandchildren has been vaccinated.
Rgds
Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Varun Gupta
Sent: 25 September 2010 22:27
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
It is easy to say that vaccines of any kind are harmful but do we really have a way to avoid to them, at least the very basic ones. The answer is simply no.
I know the concept of Homeoprohylaxis and many Homeo docs have extended it to Homeopathic vaccinations today and are giving administrating medicines on that note and that cannot be ignored or denied in any way.
Varun
http://eyevarun.blogspot.com
http://eyevarun.spaces.live.com
http://facebook.com/eyevarun
http://twitter.com/eyevarun
http://eyevarun.wordpress.com
Actually some people do a form of homeoprophylaxis which is indeed sometimes referred to as "homeopathic vaccination." E.g. Isaac Golden's work, which actually does show very positive results...
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
Varun, I think you would be interested to read Isaac Golden's work on the subject. A couple of years ago he published the results of his 20-year study, following children who had been treated by his homeoprophylaxis method. It's quite interesting! (And also quite positive.)
Shannon
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
Shannon
You took it wrongly Varun, we are not talking about homeopathic vaccines here and there is no such vaccines anywhere in the world of homeopathy. We are talking of epidemic/genous epidemic here. Vaccination of any kind is harmful to human being.
Why in your book?.......
Dr.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Varun Gupta > wrote:
Am sharinging this e mail from another site...
http://www.bbc. co.uk/news/ uk-scotland- 11277990
Doctors warn over homeopathic 'vaccines'
By Samantha Poling Investigations correspondent, BBC Scotland
Many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the side effects of
conventional vaccination
Homeopaths are offering "alternative vaccinations" which doctors say could
leave patients vulnerable to potentially fatal diseases, a BBC investigation
has found.
Three practitioners admitted giving patients a homeopathic medicine designed
to replace the MMR vaccine.
Inverness-based Katie Jarvis said she only offered "Homeopathic Prophylaxis"
to patients who expressed an interest.
But the discovery has prompted a shocked reaction from doctors.
When asked about the practice, Ms Jarvis said: "The alternative that I would
offer would be a homeopathic remedy made from diseased tissue, that comes
from someone with that disease, and then made into potentised form so that
is given in a homeopathic remedy.
"It can be given instead of, or as well as, the vaccination.
"I'm not advocating that they do not take the vaccination, I am providing
support for those who choose not to by giving them an alternative. "
When asked if the homeopathic remedy offered the same protection as the MMR,
she replied: "I'd like to say that they were safer, but I can't prove that."
However, the BMA's director of science and ethics, Dr Vivienne Nathanson,
said: "Replacing proven vaccines, tested vaccines, vaccines that are used
globally and we know are effective with homeopathic alternatives where there
is no evidence of efficacy, no evidence of effectiveness, is extremely
worrying because it could persuade families that their children are safe and
protected when they're not.
"And some of those children will go on to get the illness, and some of those
children may go on to get permanent life-threatening sequelae, or even to
die, and that's a tragedy when the family think they've protected their
children."
Katie Jarvis said she had protected herself against flu with homeopathic
treatments
Sequelae is a pathological condition resulting from a previous disease or
injury.
The practice of replacing conventional vaccines with homeopathic
alternatives has been condemned by the Faculty of Homeopathy.
It said there was no evidence for homeopathic treatments being able to
protect against diseases, and said patients should stick to conventional
medicines.
Replacements for vaccines were also dismissed by the UK and Scottish
governments but many homeopaths believe that remedies can help lessen the
side effects of conventional vaccination.
The BBC Scotland programme examined claims that members of a small
organisation, the Homeopathic Medical Association - which has about 300
members across the UK - were offering replacement vaccines.
It approached the association' s six members in Scotland. Three of them said
they provided the MMR remedies to patients and said they would be happy to
do so again.
Ms Jarvis also claimed she could protect patients against other diseases,
like polio, tetanus and diphtheria. She claimed she had protected herself
against flu with homeopathic treatments.
NHS Highland - the health board covering Inverness - said it was considering
withdrawing funding for homeopathic preparations.
Bosses will make a decision on the matter at the board's meeting in October.
Chief operating officer Elaine Mead said: "It is important that NHS Highland
can demonstrate the quality and clinical effectiveness of all of the
treatments currently provided at times of more scarce resource.
It is right that we re-look at any investment in this area in the light of the current debate between clinical groups."
"All truth goes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Schopenhauer)
Re: Concern over homeopathic MMR vaccinations
Varun, as I am sure you do it is much better to study Hahnemann- Organon, Chronic Diseases and understand miasmatic theory and the value of treating acute illnesses and then the chronic homeopathically and then there is no need for so called homeopathic vaccination (there is no such thing). Likewise if you are treating any epidemic prophylactically why go further than Hahnemann and his true followers.
Joy
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Joy
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