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Black death was Pesticides/Polio was HELP - Janine Robert, activist/author/filmmaker has had a stroke

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:49 pm
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
As a matter of information, if anyone is interested..........
The plague was carried by rats that were infested with ticks that in turn were biting humans and transmitted the bubonic plague; at times, if it did not kill the patient before, it also reached the lungs with coughing and haemoptysis, becoming now pneumonic plague.
The pneumonic form was air born and highly contagious, whereas the tick form needed a tick bite and was less contagious.
It spread widely because of commerce and navigation, rats on the boats and ticks on clothes.
And some people did sail through the epidemics completely unaffected. A recent genetic research into the descendants of those survivors demonstrated the presence of a homozygous gene (I think DLR C32) that prevents the entry of germs into the white blood cells; the same gene seems to be present in patients HIV positive but with zero viral load (meaning they have immunoglobulins demonstrating contact, but the virus has been eliminated).
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
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Re: Black death was Pesticides/Polio was HELP - Janine Robert, activist/author/filmmaker has had a stroke

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:06 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Ah, that is interesting! So these people are immune from *any* (within currently studied parameters) microbes getting into the white blood cells? That sounds really useful! :-)

Re the HIV, how do they determine the presence or absence of viral load--I thought that detection of that particular virus was particularly difficult, or is that yesterday's hurdle and today's old news?

Shannon
As a matter of information, if anyone is interested..........
The plague was carried by rats that were infested with ticks that in turn were biting humans and transmitted the bubonic plague; at times, if it did not kill the patient before, it also reached the lungs with coughing and haemoptysis, becoming now pneumonic plague.
The pneumonic form was air born and highly contagious, whereas the tick form needed a tick bite and was less contagious.
It spread widely because of commerce and navigation, rats on the boats and ticks on clothes.
And some people did sail through the epidemics completely unaffected. A recent genetic research into the descendants of those survivors demonstrated the presence of a homozygous gene (I think DLR C32) that prevents the entry of germs into the white blood cells; the same gene seems to be present in patients HIV positive but with zero viral load (meaning they have immunoglobulins demonstrating contact, but the virus has been eliminated).
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Black death was Pesticides/Polio was HELP - Janine Robert, activist/author/filmmaker has had a stroke

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:32 pm
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
If the infectious mechanism is through penetrating into the WBC, yes, but that does not make them less immune/susceptible to other infections.
How do they detect the viral load?? I am not a microbiologist or a lab technician, I do know it is a more difficult, time-consuming and costly test, but a lot more precise.
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Black death was Pesticides/Polio was HELP - Janine Robert, activist/author/filmmaker has had a stroke

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:04 am
by Liz Brynin
Thank you for answering clearly without going off on another tangent!
Liz
As a matter of information, if anyone is interested..........
The plague was carried by rats that were infested with ticks that in turn were biting humans and transmitted the bubonic plague; at times, if it did not kill the patient before, it also reached the lungs with coughing and haemoptysis, becoming now pneumonic plague.
The pneumonic form was air born and highly contagious, whereas the tick form needed a tick bite and was less contagious.
It spread widely because of commerce and navigation, rats on the boats and ticks on clothes.
And some people did sail through the epidemics completely unaffected. A recent genetic research into the descendants of those survivors demonstrated the presence of a homozygous gene (I think DLR C32) that prevents the entry of germs into the white blood cells; the same gene seems to be present in patients HIV positive but with zero viral load (meaning they have immunoglobulins demonstrating contact, but the virus has been eliminated).
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Black death was Pesticides/Polio was HELP - Janine Robert, activist/author/filmmaker has had a stroke

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:03 am
by Paul Booyse
The rats were infested by fleas, not ticks. The Flea bite introduces the bacilli into the host.

As a matter of information, if anyone is interested..........
The plague was carried by rats that were infested with ticks that in turn were biting humans and transmitted the bubonic plague; at times, if it did not kill the patient before, it also reached the lungs with coughing and haemoptysis, becoming now pneumonic plague.
The pneumonic form was air born and highly contagious, whereas the tick form needed a tick bite and was less contagious.
It spread widely because of commerce and navigation, rats on the boats and ticks on clothes.
And some people did sail through the epidemics completely unaffected. A recent genetic research into the descendants of those survivors demonstrated the presence of a homozygous gene (I think DLR C32) that prevents the entry of germs into the white blood cells; the same gene seems to be present in patients HIV positive but with zero viral load (meaning they have immunoglobulins demonstrating contact, but the virus has been eliminated).
 
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Visit my new website www.naturamedica.webs.com