Dear John
I cannot find this email.
However the quote at the bottom of your email to me is correct.
"As I had mentioned, the only reference to Simple Single medicinal substances is in 272 of Organon 5 and 273 of Organon 6 which I have sited below."
Soroush
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey
Sent: 28 July 2009 17:58
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ardavan Shahrdar
Subject: [Minutus] The Organon's only reference to "Simple Single medicinal substances", now?
Dear Soroush,
At 2:21 p.m. GMT on 7 Jul 09, you wrote: "Please see aph 119 - where you will find the ONLY reference to Simple Substance".
Aphorism 119 contains no such term that I can find. Could you quote the sentence that you believe contains the term "Simple Substance"?
Now you say that the only Organon 6 reference Simple Single medicinal substances is in § 273.
That aphorism contains no such term that I can find. Could you quote the sentence that you believe contains the term "Simple Single medicinal substances"?
Thanks --
John
2009/7/28 >
The Organon's only reference to Simple Single medicinal substances, now?
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Re: The Organon's only reference to Simple Single medicinal substances, now?
Dear John
Here is the bit from the Organon 273 Org 6
In no case under treatment is it necessary and therefore not permissible to administer to a patient more than one single, simple medicinal substance at one time. It is inconceivable how the slightest doubt could exist as to whether it was more consistent with nature and more rational to prescribe a single, simple1 medicine at one time in a disease or a mixture of several differently acting drugs. It is absolutely not allowed in homœopathy, the one true, simple and natural art of healing, to give the patient at one time two different medicinal substance.
Soroush
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey
Sent: 29 July 2009 06:00
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] The Organon's only reference to "Simple Single medicinal substances", now?
Dear Soroush,
I accept that you no longer make the earlier contention. Do you seriously contend that your reply below is responsive to my request for a quote of the sentence containing the term "Simple Single medicinal substances"? Where is this sentence that I asked for?
Cheers --
John
2009/7/29 >
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"Nothing is so fatal to the progress of the human mind as to suppose that our views of science are ultimate; that there are no mysteries in nature; that our triumphs are complete; and that there are no new worlds to conquer."
— Sir Humphry Davy, in "An Account of some Galvanic Combinations", Philosophical Transactions 91 (1801), pp. 397–402 (as quoted by David Knight, Humphry Davy: Science and Power, Cambridge, 1998, p. 87)
Here is the bit from the Organon 273 Org 6
In no case under treatment is it necessary and therefore not permissible to administer to a patient more than one single, simple medicinal substance at one time. It is inconceivable how the slightest doubt could exist as to whether it was more consistent with nature and more rational to prescribe a single, simple1 medicine at one time in a disease or a mixture of several differently acting drugs. It is absolutely not allowed in homœopathy, the one true, simple and natural art of healing, to give the patient at one time two different medicinal substance.
Soroush
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey
Sent: 29 July 2009 06:00
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] The Organon's only reference to "Simple Single medicinal substances", now?
Dear Soroush,
I accept that you no longer make the earlier contention. Do you seriously contend that your reply below is responsive to my request for a quote of the sentence containing the term "Simple Single medicinal substances"? Where is this sentence that I asked for?
Cheers --
John
2009/7/29 >
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"Nothing is so fatal to the progress of the human mind as to suppose that our views of science are ultimate; that there are no mysteries in nature; that our triumphs are complete; and that there are no new worlds to conquer."
— Sir Humphry Davy, in "An Account of some Galvanic Combinations", Philosophical Transactions 91 (1801), pp. 397–402 (as quoted by David Knight, Humphry Davy: Science and Power, Cambridge, 1998, p. 87)
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Re: The Organon's only reference to Simple Single medicinal substances, now?
Dear John
I am ABSOLUTELY confident that my understanding of the matter is correct.
Best wishes
Soroush
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey
Sent: 29 July 2009 15:08
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] The Organon's only reference to "Simple Single medicinal substances", now?
Thank you, Soroush. Do you notice the many differences between the phrase highlighted there and all the versions you have so far mentioned? The two most significant are your omission of the word "medicinal" and your omission of the appositive comma. These are both strong clues as to Hahnemann's intent in the phrase.
Cheers --
John
2009/7/29 >
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"Nothing is so fatal to the progress of the human mind as to suppose that our views of science are ultimate; that there are no mysteries in nature; that our triumphs are complete; and that there are no new worlds to conquer."
— Sir Humphry Davy, in "An Account of some Galvanic Combinations", Philosophical Transactions 91 (1801), pp. 397–402 (as quoted by David Knight, Humphry Davy: Science and Power, Cambridge, 1998, p. 87)
I am ABSOLUTELY confident that my understanding of the matter is correct.
Best wishes
Soroush
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey
Sent: 29 July 2009 15:08
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] The Organon's only reference to "Simple Single medicinal substances", now?
Thank you, Soroush. Do you notice the many differences between the phrase highlighted there and all the versions you have so far mentioned? The two most significant are your omission of the word "medicinal" and your omission of the appositive comma. These are both strong clues as to Hahnemann's intent in the phrase.
Cheers --
John
2009/7/29 >
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"Nothing is so fatal to the progress of the human mind as to suppose that our views of science are ultimate; that there are no mysteries in nature; that our triumphs are complete; and that there are no new worlds to conquer."
— Sir Humphry Davy, in "An Account of some Galvanic Combinations", Philosophical Transactions 91 (1801), pp. 397–402 (as quoted by David Knight, Humphry Davy: Science and Power, Cambridge, 1998, p. 87)