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Irene de Villiers
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Bordetella bronchiseptica

Post by Irene de Villiers »

There have been some emails recently which have to do with Bordetella
bronchiseptica, especially in animals (where it is a killer
especially in cats and sheep) and they have looked like chastisements
of my approach. Some people trust my approach. However the approach
assumed to be mine is not mine and anyone thinking that way could
seriously endanger an animal with Bordetella bronchiseptica. SO here
IS my take on it:

Bordetella bronchiseptica 30C is a remedy made from a vaccine
containing this bacterial organism.
It has been proved in zero and 30C potency, but it is NOT suitable as
a main remedy to treat a case.
It has also proved 100% effective at prophylaxis in newborn kittens
to actively infeeceted queens in cats.
It has proved very effective in *preventing* the illness in cats,
dogs and sheep.
It has been proved effective in preventing vaccinosis from the
allopathic crude substance vaccine.

This remedy is also available ion 200C 1M, and 10M.

In a case of illness.
ONE MUST TAKE THE CASE, AND DO SO PROPERLY, and use a proper simillimum.
In dogs the illness is not very serious (Kennel Cough) but in cats
and sheep, it tends to be deadly.
Allopathic statistics in cats for example are 100% deaths in kittens
of 6 months and below, and 50% deaths in adult cats.

Using a simillimum alone will help many cases but not all. A resolved
case will often come back one or more years later, the suscpetibilty
tends to remain, unless the Bord-b 200C remedy (not 30C as can be
used before any illness) is used prophylactically after the case.

I have also found that the death rate goes to zero if you use a
simillimum and add in the Bord.b 200C as an intercurrent remedy.
The above conclusions are from my case statistics, mostly in cats,
from newborn to adult.
With the Bord-b 30C used aquous from birth if the queen has the
active disease, it is 100% effecetive at saving lives and preventing
illness. Otherwise the kittens all die.

In 20 cases where Bor.b. 200C prophylaxis was used after resolving
the acute illness, there was no recurrence, for 7 years so far.
In 10 cases where the prophylaxis was omitted after resolving the
acute illness, there was recurrence in 5 cases within a year, and in
2 more cases within 2 years.

I stress the Bord-b 30c does NOT do the work of a simillimum in Bord-
b illness.
A SImillimum is ESSENTIAL in Bord-b in all species in my opinion.

That said:
In *addition* to the Similliumum - I would use Bord-b 200C
intercurrently (not the 30C used for prophylaxis) because it
significantly reduces healing time and significantly reduces deaths,
esp in newborn kittens.
Using Simillimunm and Borb.b 200C intercurrentlly, in fact reduces
deaths to zero and recovery time gets cut in half.
These are the actual results seen in several outbreaks of this in
catteries and to date there has been no recurrence of Bord.b with
this protocol.

I know of no proving with Bord.b in potency, in cats.
In fact cats and sheep, unlike dogs, have no symptoms besides a lot
of sleeping (easy to miss in cats) till they are terminal, and maybe
not then either. They can be "fine" in the evening and dead in the
morning..... but a few late stage cases try to cough out the lungs
and one must then recognize this is what tghe cat is trying to do,k
and act fast.
Since Bord.b also destroys surfaces in the lung (a lye-burning alkali
burn effect due to the gene of the bacterium to produce this and
destroy the body's natural alpha lipoic acid as we know from genetic
research) it is useful in this illness to add in a supplement of
Alpha-lipoic acid, which has been shown to be helpful in reducing the
burn damage to lungs while healing is under way.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Joy Lucas
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Re: Bordetella bronchiseptica

Post by Joy Lucas »

It has been asked previously - where can we find the proving data for this. I have other questions regarding your post but those for later.

Joy

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Magda
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Re: Bordetella bronchiseptica

Post by Magda »

Irene,

I am curious. Could you tell us what percentage of your practice is devoted
to the use of what most of us accept as "proven" remedies and what
percentage is devoted to the use of vaccine derived remedies that have been
disputed here?

Magda Aguila
Aquiline LLC
Animal Nutrition and
Homeopathic Consultations
www.aquilinedanes.com


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Bordetella bronchiseptica

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Short answer: Nearly all is NOT with vaccine-derived remedy.

Longer answer:
PRINCIPLE:
(I do not keep statistics to give percentages.)
I use whatever is best for the client at the time and it almost
always involves meeting the Law of Similars when remedy is involved.
I have a deep love and respect for the way homeopathy works and saves
lives, and the way it leaves the individual not just healed but
resistant to recurrence of illness. I consider this requires the use
of the Law of Similars in choosing a remedy (I do not agree with
suppression) - whether a simillimum, or for some other use
(organotherapy, drainage, detox, etc). Remedy must fit the individual.

Firstly I do not do as many cases as most people because I have
health limitations and because I choose complex cases and am known
for them. They are challenging but rewarding.
My special area is immune compromise disease which occupies most my
time on homeopathy. It is complex chronic case work. Most of my
cases are declared terminal and in need of euthanizing by a vet
before I get them. That is the main area in which I work. Each case
starts with a lengthy questionnaire and other information, and most
are intense cases close to death (such as FIP cases or FeLV in crisis
or FIV). Also some less intense cases like cancer, what I call "kitty
Alzheimer's", Cushings, and so on. Also some "accident" consequences,
such as osteomyelitis with involvement of distant epiphyses after a
bad break last year, diabetes and some paralysis cases (no longer
paralysed) Those and whatever else comes along are the typical cases.
I also like to do some writing (including on emal lists) in order to
share what I know, and I am a tutor for vethom students at BIH.

I do advocate vaccine remedies as prophylaxis when I get a chance,
which takes a minute to do by posting an article I have written in
advance, on a relevant email group, or sending it to a client. That
is the main use of vaccine remedies. Add in about 6 epidemics in 12
years, an occasional acute cat flu and it it also is *part* of 19
cases of removal of cat flu miasm, where URI 30C is the miasm remedy
- all successful.

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Vaccine remedies are likely to be more important as more people
realize how well they work, both for prophylaxis and for undoing
specific organism damage (eg the alkali burn damaged done by the gene
in the Bord-b bacterium)
That is their area of activity - prophylaxis and undoing specific
organism damage - that I see over and over again. They do not
restore immune system integrity when it is missing - that needs a
simillimum.

This is why in Bordetella bronchiseptica illness, you need the
simillimum - to restore immune system function - but the Bord.b
remedy as an intercurrent, reduces the death rate (down to zero) and
the healing time is cut in half, because it removes the specific
bord-b alkali damage. The simillimum still does the main healing for
longterm immune function.
Bord.b is one of the few bacteria for which the entire genome has
been decoded. This IS useful to homeopaths, assuming we also know the
cell physiology of lungs. The alkali making gene is the worst aspect
of this nasty interstitial-attack bacterium and is what makes it so
pathogenic. It is related to pertussis (Bordetella pertussis) but
pertussis lacks the alkali gene and has instead a cough-inducing
irritant chemical gene.

I find it helpful to use the genetic research and any other good
research to help in my work. Understanding the alkali component of
the Bord.b illness via gene codes, also led me to use alpha lipoic
acid as a supplement, as that I know from cell physiology, is needed
in the lungs to help counter alkali damage.
So I consider I am a homeopath - but not ONLY a homeopath. I will use
other logical options to do the best for my client that I can. I use
all knowledge I can lay hands on, use "directed nutrition" (as in
this example) supportively, and whatever else leads to long-term
healing.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Joy Lucas
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Re: Bordetella bronchiseptica

Post by Joy Lucas »

!00 % effective - 100% of what, 1 case, 5, 10, a few hundred, knowing of course that in prophylaxis you cannot know if the client would have been susceptible of not.

Joy

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Joy Lucas
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Re: Bordetella bronchiseptica

Post by Joy Lucas »

If you don't keep stats/records how do you come to your percentage conclusions? As per your other post regarding 100% effectiveness.

Joy

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