I agree wholeheartedly that governments want to keep us afraid.
Here in the UK we have just shut down yet another school because of four cases of swine flu, and all the children have been issued with Tamiflu - yet everyone who has caught it here in the Uk has had it very mildly - it is less severe than the seasonal flu, they say.
So why isn't the government just allowing it - even encouraging it - to spread? That way, the more people who catch it, the more natural immunity is built up in the community, so if it does return in the atumn 'with a vengeance', as they are now telling us, it won't be such a big deal.
We should all be demanding 'flu parties'!! That's the way to deal with it!
Liz Brynin
Swine flu
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Re: Swine flu
At 02:22 PM 5/6/2009, you wrote:
From the UK
My nephew was one of hundreds sent home today from his school in SW London (Alleyn's) with a half dose of Tamiflu (a prophylaxis measure) as several cases of Swine flu have been found in the school.
Tamiflu is not used for children in Japan since they suffered 16 bizarre deaths in 2007 and many more extreme changes of behaviour.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 549260.ece
I rang the school who said they received the info from the HPA so I rang them. This took 5 phone calls at at 7.30 my call was returned, such is the volume of calls.
The HPA clinician says that she has not heard of Japan's problems, but is she that the 'experts' (which experts ... Japan or USA?) and NICE had looked into this one and the risks must outweigh the benefits ...oh really...even though it is only claimed that the symptoms should be less severe and flu symptoms should be reduced by a day and that...
"safety and efficacy of repeated treatment or prophylaxis course has not been studied" !!!
http://www.rocheusa.com/products/tamiflu/pi.pdf
THIS IS AN AMAZING READ IF YOU HAVE TIME!
Even the FDA say
"The antiviral drug information addresses side effects or adverse events that might be associated with each drug. Because some side effects can be serious and because viruses may become resistant when antiviral drugs are used indiscriminately, decisions on the use of these drugs should be based on individual evaluations of risk and benefit. "
So giving these drugs out at the school gates seems pretty blanket to me!
See here for the drug insert - very worrying!
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/InfoSheets ... atePIS.htm
And my teenage nephew did not even read this insert, as I'm sure his peers didn't either.
I wondered if those children would be monitored?
"No of course not, they could see their GP if they were worried or they could stop taking it".
Shocking!
I also emailed and text the BBC - mmm - don't hold your breath...
Anna
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From the UK
My nephew was one of hundreds sent home today from his school in SW London (Alleyn's) with a half dose of Tamiflu (a prophylaxis measure) as several cases of Swine flu have been found in the school.
Tamiflu is not used for children in Japan since they suffered 16 bizarre deaths in 2007 and many more extreme changes of behaviour.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 549260.ece
I rang the school who said they received the info from the HPA so I rang them. This took 5 phone calls at at 7.30 my call was returned, such is the volume of calls.
The HPA clinician says that she has not heard of Japan's problems, but is she that the 'experts' (which experts ... Japan or USA?) and NICE had looked into this one and the risks must outweigh the benefits ...oh really...even though it is only claimed that the symptoms should be less severe and flu symptoms should be reduced by a day and that...
"safety and efficacy of repeated treatment or prophylaxis course has not been studied" !!!
http://www.rocheusa.com/products/tamiflu/pi.pdf
THIS IS AN AMAZING READ IF YOU HAVE TIME!
Even the FDA say
"The antiviral drug information addresses side effects or adverse events that might be associated with each drug. Because some side effects can be serious and because viruses may become resistant when antiviral drugs are used indiscriminately, decisions on the use of these drugs should be based on individual evaluations of risk and benefit. "
So giving these drugs out at the school gates seems pretty blanket to me!
See here for the drug insert - very worrying!
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/InfoSheets ... atePIS.htm
And my teenage nephew did not even read this insert, as I'm sure his peers didn't either.
I wondered if those children would be monitored?
"No of course not, they could see their GP if they were worried or they could stop taking it".
Shocking!
I also emailed and text the BBC - mmm - don't hold your breath...
Anna
------------------------------------------
Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm & http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases Reality
Next classes start April 22 & 23
Re: Swine flu
Liz - its getting to be so obvious that the government wish to put to use their stockpiled Tamiflu which is rapidly going out of date. From what I have read the side effects of the Tamiflu could be what they are calling the symptoms of this swine flu which as you say is very mild - "no worse than a normal cold" said one 11yr old child.
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Re: Swine flu
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Liz Brynin > wrote:
It is their primary means to power..
Even if Tamiflu *did* have some home of efficacy in this flu (it doesn't)
it is a very dangerous drug
In theory, that is not correct..
Influenza isn't like measles or chickenpox; it mutates fairly rapidly, so immunity isn't "a given"
as the virus moves through many hosts, constantly mutating, one could easily catch the mutated flu
when one might hope for "immunity."
We are now into phase 2 of this WHO / NWO sponsored bio-terror attack;
78,000 "hits"
http://www.google.com/search?flu+"second+wave"
notice that ALL "major sources" of ... uh... the propaganda programming called "news"
are trumpeting the same refrain;
a couple of weeks ago, they were ramping up maximum fear for this very bland and nearly harmless "pandemic."
It seems that WHO is perfectly aware that many deaths are caused by air pollution;
WHO is perfectly aware of that fact in relation to massively polluted Mexico City;
NO-where else has there been even a hint of the rate of percentage-flu-fatality statistics quoted in Mexico City;
It seems apparent that not only is the deadliness (or not!) of this (and likely other) flu is likely either a red herring altogether,
or possibly a smaller co-factor to the larger problem of toxic pollution
-but also that WHO is aware of this, as they have co-signed statistics whereby even the Mexico City death attributed to flu are statistically insignificant measured against deadly air (and water, etc) pollution.
World Health Experts Warn Air Pollution Kills Two Million a Year
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2006 ... -06-01.asp
Fake Swine Flu Propaganda Infects Nation
by Ramiel Nagel
Monday May 4th, 2009 8:50 AM
On the 10 year anniversary of the fake West Nile Virus epidemic (http://www.naturalnews.com/024754.html), a new fake virus epidemic is being marketed by the mass media, the World Health Organization, and the US government.
The current swine flu pandemic is simply another myth, like the Avian flu and West Nile virus before it. Here you will get the best facts to help you see that we live in a world where there is nothing to fear – not even media and government created epidemics.
The Fake Emergency
Forty random people nation wide having flu-like symptoms is not an emergency, yet the US Government declared a state of emergency. Meanwhile, real health emergencies like: pollution, autism (250,000+), diabetes, FDA approved prescription drugs (such as Vioxx) which kill over 100,000 people per year and cancer are ignored. The 3.5 million homeless people in the land of the free, and the approximately 3 million children who live in homes, in the US, in which there is at times, too little to eat are ignored.
According to the Center’s of Disease Control’s (CDC’s) own reports, most Swine flu cases in the US could not be connected to Mexico, pigs or other sick humans. Only 3 of 47 documented cases were known to have traveled to Mexico. And 40 of the 47 cases have not been linked to other cases. (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtm ... 8d0428a2_e)
In the two California cases which are confirmed, the CDC writes, “Neither child had contact with pigs; the source of the infection is unknown.” Without evidence that human-to-human transmission occurred, the CDC simply jumps to the conclusion that it is likely contagious between humans, stating, “The lack of known exposure to pigs in the two cases increases the possibility that human-to-human transmission of this new influenza virus has occurred.” (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5815a5.htm)
According to the 1988 Journal of the American Medical Association, “continuous transmission of Swine influenza virus in humans has not occurred.” (JAMA 1988, Vol. 260, No 21, pg.) In plain English, the Swine flu has never been proven to be contagious.
Because the CDC could not find infected pigs to blame for the flu symptoms in children, they assume the children got it from another human, even without any evidence to the fact.
Other Legitimate Explanations for the “Swine Flu”
New diseases and scares can be converted into millions or billions of dollars of profits when people believe it is a virus that is beyond their control to stop. Meanwhile there are plausible explanations for flu outbreak. If we acknowledge these reasonable explanations for disease outbreaks, it would make corporations liable for their polluting ways and we would have to stop blaming viruses for diseases. (Nothing anybody seems to want to do right now.)
We all know that air pollution can make us sick. And where did many of the swine flu cases originate? The city with the highest levels of air pollution, Mexico City.
Preliminary research by researcher Jim West shows that schools that may be affected with Swine Flu are in the trails of airplane exhaust and adjacent to major expressways. (http://www.harpub.co.cc/swineflu2009.htm) Could swine flu really be a guise to mislead us from the dreadful effects of air pollution. Could particle pollution of microscopic sized pollutants and exhaust gasses known to cause respiratory problems, flu-like symptoms and even early death be the cause of many of the reported flu cases? (http://www.epa.gov/air/particlepollution/health.html) And could some of those cases then happen to show in a blood test, an H1N1 strain of virus due to the presence of that type of DNA recently injected from a flu shot during the past flu season?
The Swine Flu nearly Indistinguishable from the Regular Flu
The New York City department of public health explains. “In recent days, some businesses have mistakenly reported confirmed cases of H1N1 flu in their workplaces. H1N1 flu cannot be diagnosed by local doctors or hospitals. At present, only the Health Department’s Public Health Laboratory can determine if a case is probable, and only CDC can confirm it. In fact, in recent days the Department’s Public Health Laboratory has confirmed many cases of seasonal flu, which is indistinguishable from H1N1 by testing in doctor or hospital laboratories. (http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/pr2009/pr020-09.shtml)
The US Government Expects a Flu Pandemic
Just a few years ago the US government expected the Avian flu epidemic to kill 1.9 million people. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/200 ... emic_x.htm)
The US government has devised a website to market and promote the concept of a flu epidemic because it believes one will occur. It is called pandemicflu.gov (or avianflu.gov ). The website states its purpose is due to the “likely to be a prolonged and widespread outbreak that could require temporary changes in many areas of society, such as schools, work, transportation and other public services.”
Not only does the government believe there will be an epidemic, they are putting billions of dollars behind the hope that a massive flu outbreak will occur. To prepare for the expected (planned) outbreak of Avian flu, they are funding the stockpiling and creation of Avian flu vaccines on a massive scale. In January 15, 2009, the US Department of Health and Human Services awarded a 487 Million dollar contract to Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics to make Avian flu vaccine. (http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2009pres/ ... 0115b.html)
World Health Organization Hides Swine Flu Data from Independent Scrutiny
No independent scientist is allowed to see the original strain of Swine flu, or how it was identified or isolated due to Homeland Security Laws. So there is no real independent proof even of its existence, and we must rely on news reports for evidence. Independent pandemic disease investigator Jim West, received this information from Robert Webster, Director of WHO’s Collaborating Center for Studies on the Ecology of Influenza in Animals and Birds, after requesting information about the original definitive characterization of the stock H5N1 virus strain. This H5N1 strain is the basis for all subsequent studies that claim to characterize Avian flu virus. See CDC website, regarding, "Select Agents Program."
Novavax, Inc., in Bethesda, Maryland, produce genetically-modified recombinants of the avian, swine, and Spanish flu viruses, H5N1 and H1N1, nearly identical to the unprecedented Mexican virus that is allegedly spreading to the United States at the time of this posting. ( (http://ukpmc.ac.uk/articlerender.cgi?artid=1242433)
Could Swine Flu Be Caused by Vaccine Mix Up?
Every day we are exposed to foreign tissue from animals in the form eating chicken, eggs, fish, cheese, and so forth. Yet these tissues do not make us sick or infect us, because our digestive system uses, lives off and assimilates foreign tissues.
How can pig DNA find its way into two California children who are said to have Swine flu? One possible explanation is that there are contaminated batches of flu vaccine floating around. The flu vaccine already contains the H1N1 “virus.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_H1N1_flu_outbreak) This H1N1 virus is so close to the Swine flu virus that regular laboratories cannot tell the difference between the “normal” H1N1 strain and the Swine flu strain. It is not unreasonable to assume that “accidently” a new H1N1 virus may have slipped into some batches of flu vaccines, in light of the evidence presented of labs mixing viruses. Another plausible explanation is unclear tests are confusing the H1N1 in the flu vaccine, with the supposedly new H1N1 Swine flu strain and the government is then just jumping to conclusions. It is well known that millions of people in the 1960’s received polio vaccines contaminated with the simian SV40 monkey virus, which caused cancer in some people who were injected. (http://www.sv40foundation.org ) Humans and pigs share DNA structures. It is possible that the indentified “pig” genes could be a ‘misinterpretation’ of similar looking human genes, promoted as fact for its propaganda value.
The Missing Virus - The 1918 Epidemic Was Not caused by the Flu Virus
Fear of a flu epidemic is based upon the supposed flu of 1918 and 1919 in which 20,000,000 people are said to have died. This old epidemic is important today because the US Government and media entities constantly provide this epidemic as proof another epidemic will happen. And thus base their public policies on this flu. But what evidence do we have that these people died from the flu? The US government’s own website claims that in 1918 scientists did not understand viruses. (http://1918.pandemicflu.gov/the_pandemic/04.htm) And it wasn’t until 1933 that the influenza virus was discovered. But where is the missing is the link from the discovered influenza virus and the 1918 pandemic? One would expect to see scientific articles, documents, lab reports, linking the two together. Yet, we see none.
Meanwhile, scientists at Emory University in Atlanta recently have announced that they discovered that it was NOT THE FLU virus that killed people in the epidemic. But rather people died from bacterial infections, such as Streptococcus pneumoniae. (http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceN ... ws&sp=true)
According to health researcher Dr. Dan Duffy, the 1918 flu deaths were caused by frequent use of medications like CALOMEL, used to treat “sepsis.” Sepsis is another word for infection. (http://www.whale.to/m/duffy.html) Calomel is mercury. With two independent sources saying essentially the same thing, it is quite reasonable to assume that a majority of people died of the flu epidemic, as a direct result of a Streptococcus infection, or of the result of being treated for the infection with poisonous mercury. During the same time, if people exhibited flu like symptoms they may have been given methyl chloride, which was used in for cough syrup in 1918. Methyl chloride is also used as a refrigerant, a solvent, and it is neurotoxic, with side-effects, e.g., drowsiness, and coma. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_chloride)
The point is, that in 1918 people didn’t die from the flu virus.
Most of us have had the flu. It doesn’t feel good, but deaths from the flu are extremely rare in modern times. How was it that 20,000,000 people died from the flu back then, when today it is relatively harmless? The simple answer makes sense here. It was not the flu, but something else that caused the deaths.
The 1976 Swine Flu Scam
A soldier in Fort Dix, New Jersey was the only death and the only “confirmed” case of swine flu in 1976. Because of this one case, and the supposed few hundred others who had flu like symptoms, a massive Swine flu vaccine campaign was initiated by President Gerald Ford, perhaps to make him look good, like he was protecting the nation, at a cost of approximately $135,000,000 of 1976 dollars. (About 500,000,000 in today’s dollars)
According to the Great Bird Flu Hoax by Joseph Mercola and Pam Killeen “Dr. J. Anthony Morris (formerly of HEW and director of the Virus Bureau at the FDA) was fired after he criticized the swine flu vaccine. He pointed out that there could be no authentic swine flu vaccine because there had never been any human cases of swine flu on which they could test it.”
How does the Center’s for Disease Control get around the lack of credible evidence about the existence of Swine flu? Simple, they have no scientific studies posted on their website to back up their claims.
46 million US citizens obediently took the 1976 swine flu shot, and 4,000 of those Americans are claiming damages from Uncle Sam amounting to three and a half billion dollars because of what happened when they took that shot. “By far the greatest number of the claims - two thirds of them are for neurological damage, or even death, allegedly triggered by the flu shot.” (http://www.whale.to/vaccines/swine.html)
Even after hundreds of people became paralyzed, and many died from the 1976 Swine Flu vaccine program, nobody could ever isolate the Swine Flu virus. (http://www.whale.to/m/butler5.html) Today that same Swine flu virus has not been isolated. Isolation requires not just analyzing DNA, but proving that the DNA can infect, replicate, and transmit itself between species and cause flu like symptoms. This has not been done, and it won’t be done, because, there is no infectious Swine flu virus.
Decimation of Food Supply
Mad cow disease, Avian flu virus, and Swine flu virus. Do you see the connection?
In a supposed 2006 out break of avian flu in Turkey, 350,000 birds have been slaughtered in Turkey in two weeks time. This destroys the rural food supply for people who do not have much money or resources. In the case of the Turkey outbreak, avian flu was never confirmed. But rather two popular ways of lab testing for viruses were used, antibodies and PCR. Both tests are completely useless in establishing any sort of contributory role of viruses in illness or death. They rather show that someone or an animal was once sick.
In Egypt, 300,000 pigs were just slaughtered due to swine flu fears.
Are these epidemics simply a cover-up to destroy small farms, and to slaughter healthy pigs, chickens and cows that are used for food all over the world? And protect the industry from liabilities of air pollution, while coining huge profits on flu vaccines and medications?
Be Wary of Flu Medications
Dr. Joseph Mercola reports of the dangerous side effects of Tamiflu. They include
* Nausea
* Vomiting
* Diarrhea
* Headache
* Dizziness
* Fatigue
* Cough
Conclusions of The Swine Flu Swindle
The government has tried this before. In 1976 with the Swine flu. In 1999 with the West Nile Virus and in 2005 with the Avian flu virus.
The hype, hysteria, fear mongering, and misinformation are well beyond the scope of the actual “emergency.” Several hundred people have flu like symptoms. The media, the WHO, the US Government would have us believe that people are dropping dead like flies instantly as this “deadly” virus rapidly kills, and then spreads uncontained. Yet this is so far out of touch with reality.
The reality is, we have players in the game who will benefit with new laws and new funding. States and the Federal government engorge themselves with new powers to quarantine people believed to have the disease. That means people will be locked away in facilities or at best in their homes. Imprisoned without cause, for a disease that is not contagious and that doesn’t even exist.
The 1918 flu pandemic was not caused by the flu, but by bacterial infections (easily treated in today’s time) and poisoning from treating the infections with mercury. There is NO PROOF Swine flu is contagious, or that the virus has even been isolated and proven to cause illness.
In other words, we live in a world where there is nothing to fear, well, except for government and media created epidemics.
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It is their primary means to power..
Even if Tamiflu *did* have some home of efficacy in this flu (it doesn't)
it is a very dangerous drug
In theory, that is not correct..
Influenza isn't like measles or chickenpox; it mutates fairly rapidly, so immunity isn't "a given"
as the virus moves through many hosts, constantly mutating, one could easily catch the mutated flu
when one might hope for "immunity."
We are now into phase 2 of this WHO / NWO sponsored bio-terror attack;
78,000 "hits"
http://www.google.com/search?flu+"second+wave"
notice that ALL "major sources" of ... uh... the propaganda programming called "news"
are trumpeting the same refrain;
a couple of weeks ago, they were ramping up maximum fear for this very bland and nearly harmless "pandemic."
It seems that WHO is perfectly aware that many deaths are caused by air pollution;
WHO is perfectly aware of that fact in relation to massively polluted Mexico City;
NO-where else has there been even a hint of the rate of percentage-flu-fatality statistics quoted in Mexico City;
It seems apparent that not only is the deadliness (or not!) of this (and likely other) flu is likely either a red herring altogether,
or possibly a smaller co-factor to the larger problem of toxic pollution
-but also that WHO is aware of this, as they have co-signed statistics whereby even the Mexico City death attributed to flu are statistically insignificant measured against deadly air (and water, etc) pollution.
World Health Experts Warn Air Pollution Kills Two Million a Year
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2006 ... -06-01.asp
Fake Swine Flu Propaganda Infects Nation
by Ramiel Nagel
Monday May 4th, 2009 8:50 AM
On the 10 year anniversary of the fake West Nile Virus epidemic (http://www.naturalnews.com/024754.html), a new fake virus epidemic is being marketed by the mass media, the World Health Organization, and the US government.
The current swine flu pandemic is simply another myth, like the Avian flu and West Nile virus before it. Here you will get the best facts to help you see that we live in a world where there is nothing to fear – not even media and government created epidemics.
The Fake Emergency
Forty random people nation wide having flu-like symptoms is not an emergency, yet the US Government declared a state of emergency. Meanwhile, real health emergencies like: pollution, autism (250,000+), diabetes, FDA approved prescription drugs (such as Vioxx) which kill over 100,000 people per year and cancer are ignored. The 3.5 million homeless people in the land of the free, and the approximately 3 million children who live in homes, in the US, in which there is at times, too little to eat are ignored.
According to the Center’s of Disease Control’s (CDC’s) own reports, most Swine flu cases in the US could not be connected to Mexico, pigs or other sick humans. Only 3 of 47 documented cases were known to have traveled to Mexico. And 40 of the 47 cases have not been linked to other cases. (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtm ... 8d0428a2_e)
In the two California cases which are confirmed, the CDC writes, “Neither child had contact with pigs; the source of the infection is unknown.” Without evidence that human-to-human transmission occurred, the CDC simply jumps to the conclusion that it is likely contagious between humans, stating, “The lack of known exposure to pigs in the two cases increases the possibility that human-to-human transmission of this new influenza virus has occurred.” (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5815a5.htm)
According to the 1988 Journal of the American Medical Association, “continuous transmission of Swine influenza virus in humans has not occurred.” (JAMA 1988, Vol. 260, No 21, pg.) In plain English, the Swine flu has never been proven to be contagious.
Because the CDC could not find infected pigs to blame for the flu symptoms in children, they assume the children got it from another human, even without any evidence to the fact.
Other Legitimate Explanations for the “Swine Flu”
New diseases and scares can be converted into millions or billions of dollars of profits when people believe it is a virus that is beyond their control to stop. Meanwhile there are plausible explanations for flu outbreak. If we acknowledge these reasonable explanations for disease outbreaks, it would make corporations liable for their polluting ways and we would have to stop blaming viruses for diseases. (Nothing anybody seems to want to do right now.)
We all know that air pollution can make us sick. And where did many of the swine flu cases originate? The city with the highest levels of air pollution, Mexico City.
Preliminary research by researcher Jim West shows that schools that may be affected with Swine Flu are in the trails of airplane exhaust and adjacent to major expressways. (http://www.harpub.co.cc/swineflu2009.htm) Could swine flu really be a guise to mislead us from the dreadful effects of air pollution. Could particle pollution of microscopic sized pollutants and exhaust gasses known to cause respiratory problems, flu-like symptoms and even early death be the cause of many of the reported flu cases? (http://www.epa.gov/air/particlepollution/health.html) And could some of those cases then happen to show in a blood test, an H1N1 strain of virus due to the presence of that type of DNA recently injected from a flu shot during the past flu season?
The Swine Flu nearly Indistinguishable from the Regular Flu
The New York City department of public health explains. “In recent days, some businesses have mistakenly reported confirmed cases of H1N1 flu in their workplaces. H1N1 flu cannot be diagnosed by local doctors or hospitals. At present, only the Health Department’s Public Health Laboratory can determine if a case is probable, and only CDC can confirm it. In fact, in recent days the Department’s Public Health Laboratory has confirmed many cases of seasonal flu, which is indistinguishable from H1N1 by testing in doctor or hospital laboratories. (http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/pr2009/pr020-09.shtml)
The US Government Expects a Flu Pandemic
Just a few years ago the US government expected the Avian flu epidemic to kill 1.9 million people. (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/200 ... emic_x.htm)
The US government has devised a website to market and promote the concept of a flu epidemic because it believes one will occur. It is called pandemicflu.gov (or avianflu.gov ). The website states its purpose is due to the “likely to be a prolonged and widespread outbreak that could require temporary changes in many areas of society, such as schools, work, transportation and other public services.”
Not only does the government believe there will be an epidemic, they are putting billions of dollars behind the hope that a massive flu outbreak will occur. To prepare for the expected (planned) outbreak of Avian flu, they are funding the stockpiling and creation of Avian flu vaccines on a massive scale. In January 15, 2009, the US Department of Health and Human Services awarded a 487 Million dollar contract to Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics to make Avian flu vaccine. (http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2009pres/ ... 0115b.html)
World Health Organization Hides Swine Flu Data from Independent Scrutiny
No independent scientist is allowed to see the original strain of Swine flu, or how it was identified or isolated due to Homeland Security Laws. So there is no real independent proof even of its existence, and we must rely on news reports for evidence. Independent pandemic disease investigator Jim West, received this information from Robert Webster, Director of WHO’s Collaborating Center for Studies on the Ecology of Influenza in Animals and Birds, after requesting information about the original definitive characterization of the stock H5N1 virus strain. This H5N1 strain is the basis for all subsequent studies that claim to characterize Avian flu virus. See CDC website, regarding, "Select Agents Program."
Novavax, Inc., in Bethesda, Maryland, produce genetically-modified recombinants of the avian, swine, and Spanish flu viruses, H5N1 and H1N1, nearly identical to the unprecedented Mexican virus that is allegedly spreading to the United States at the time of this posting. ( (http://ukpmc.ac.uk/articlerender.cgi?artid=1242433)
Could Swine Flu Be Caused by Vaccine Mix Up?
Every day we are exposed to foreign tissue from animals in the form eating chicken, eggs, fish, cheese, and so forth. Yet these tissues do not make us sick or infect us, because our digestive system uses, lives off and assimilates foreign tissues.
How can pig DNA find its way into two California children who are said to have Swine flu? One possible explanation is that there are contaminated batches of flu vaccine floating around. The flu vaccine already contains the H1N1 “virus.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_H1N1_flu_outbreak) This H1N1 virus is so close to the Swine flu virus that regular laboratories cannot tell the difference between the “normal” H1N1 strain and the Swine flu strain. It is not unreasonable to assume that “accidently” a new H1N1 virus may have slipped into some batches of flu vaccines, in light of the evidence presented of labs mixing viruses. Another plausible explanation is unclear tests are confusing the H1N1 in the flu vaccine, with the supposedly new H1N1 Swine flu strain and the government is then just jumping to conclusions. It is well known that millions of people in the 1960’s received polio vaccines contaminated with the simian SV40 monkey virus, which caused cancer in some people who were injected. (http://www.sv40foundation.org ) Humans and pigs share DNA structures. It is possible that the indentified “pig” genes could be a ‘misinterpretation’ of similar looking human genes, promoted as fact for its propaganda value.
The Missing Virus - The 1918 Epidemic Was Not caused by the Flu Virus
Fear of a flu epidemic is based upon the supposed flu of 1918 and 1919 in which 20,000,000 people are said to have died. This old epidemic is important today because the US Government and media entities constantly provide this epidemic as proof another epidemic will happen. And thus base their public policies on this flu. But what evidence do we have that these people died from the flu? The US government’s own website claims that in 1918 scientists did not understand viruses. (http://1918.pandemicflu.gov/the_pandemic/04.htm) And it wasn’t until 1933 that the influenza virus was discovered. But where is the missing is the link from the discovered influenza virus and the 1918 pandemic? One would expect to see scientific articles, documents, lab reports, linking the two together. Yet, we see none.
Meanwhile, scientists at Emory University in Atlanta recently have announced that they discovered that it was NOT THE FLU virus that killed people in the epidemic. But rather people died from bacterial infections, such as Streptococcus pneumoniae. (http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceN ... ws&sp=true)
According to health researcher Dr. Dan Duffy, the 1918 flu deaths were caused by frequent use of medications like CALOMEL, used to treat “sepsis.” Sepsis is another word for infection. (http://www.whale.to/m/duffy.html) Calomel is mercury. With two independent sources saying essentially the same thing, it is quite reasonable to assume that a majority of people died of the flu epidemic, as a direct result of a Streptococcus infection, or of the result of being treated for the infection with poisonous mercury. During the same time, if people exhibited flu like symptoms they may have been given methyl chloride, which was used in for cough syrup in 1918. Methyl chloride is also used as a refrigerant, a solvent, and it is neurotoxic, with side-effects, e.g., drowsiness, and coma. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_chloride)
The point is, that in 1918 people didn’t die from the flu virus.
Most of us have had the flu. It doesn’t feel good, but deaths from the flu are extremely rare in modern times. How was it that 20,000,000 people died from the flu back then, when today it is relatively harmless? The simple answer makes sense here. It was not the flu, but something else that caused the deaths.
The 1976 Swine Flu Scam
A soldier in Fort Dix, New Jersey was the only death and the only “confirmed” case of swine flu in 1976. Because of this one case, and the supposed few hundred others who had flu like symptoms, a massive Swine flu vaccine campaign was initiated by President Gerald Ford, perhaps to make him look good, like he was protecting the nation, at a cost of approximately $135,000,000 of 1976 dollars. (About 500,000,000 in today’s dollars)
According to the Great Bird Flu Hoax by Joseph Mercola and Pam Killeen “Dr. J. Anthony Morris (formerly of HEW and director of the Virus Bureau at the FDA) was fired after he criticized the swine flu vaccine. He pointed out that there could be no authentic swine flu vaccine because there had never been any human cases of swine flu on which they could test it.”
How does the Center’s for Disease Control get around the lack of credible evidence about the existence of Swine flu? Simple, they have no scientific studies posted on their website to back up their claims.
46 million US citizens obediently took the 1976 swine flu shot, and 4,000 of those Americans are claiming damages from Uncle Sam amounting to three and a half billion dollars because of what happened when they took that shot. “By far the greatest number of the claims - two thirds of them are for neurological damage, or even death, allegedly triggered by the flu shot.” (http://www.whale.to/vaccines/swine.html)
Even after hundreds of people became paralyzed, and many died from the 1976 Swine Flu vaccine program, nobody could ever isolate the Swine Flu virus. (http://www.whale.to/m/butler5.html) Today that same Swine flu virus has not been isolated. Isolation requires not just analyzing DNA, but proving that the DNA can infect, replicate, and transmit itself between species and cause flu like symptoms. This has not been done, and it won’t be done, because, there is no infectious Swine flu virus.
Decimation of Food Supply
Mad cow disease, Avian flu virus, and Swine flu virus. Do you see the connection?
In a supposed 2006 out break of avian flu in Turkey, 350,000 birds have been slaughtered in Turkey in two weeks time. This destroys the rural food supply for people who do not have much money or resources. In the case of the Turkey outbreak, avian flu was never confirmed. But rather two popular ways of lab testing for viruses were used, antibodies and PCR. Both tests are completely useless in establishing any sort of contributory role of viruses in illness or death. They rather show that someone or an animal was once sick.
In Egypt, 300,000 pigs were just slaughtered due to swine flu fears.
Are these epidemics simply a cover-up to destroy small farms, and to slaughter healthy pigs, chickens and cows that are used for food all over the world? And protect the industry from liabilities of air pollution, while coining huge profits on flu vaccines and medications?
Be Wary of Flu Medications
Dr. Joseph Mercola reports of the dangerous side effects of Tamiflu. They include
* Nausea
* Vomiting
* Diarrhea
* Headache
* Dizziness
* Fatigue
* Cough
Conclusions of The Swine Flu Swindle
The government has tried this before. In 1976 with the Swine flu. In 1999 with the West Nile Virus and in 2005 with the Avian flu virus.
The hype, hysteria, fear mongering, and misinformation are well beyond the scope of the actual “emergency.” Several hundred people have flu like symptoms. The media, the WHO, the US Government would have us believe that people are dropping dead like flies instantly as this “deadly” virus rapidly kills, and then spreads uncontained. Yet this is so far out of touch with reality.
The reality is, we have players in the game who will benefit with new laws and new funding. States and the Federal government engorge themselves with new powers to quarantine people believed to have the disease. That means people will be locked away in facilities or at best in their homes. Imprisoned without cause, for a disease that is not contagious and that doesn’t even exist.
The 1918 flu pandemic was not caused by the flu, but by bacterial infections (easily treated in today’s time) and poisoning from treating the infections with mercury. There is NO PROOF Swine flu is contagious, or that the virus has even been isolated and proven to cause illness.
In other words, we live in a world where there is nothing to fear, well, except for government and media created epidemics.
About the Author: Ramiel Nagel is the author of two breakthrough health books. “Cure Tooth Decay ,” which teaches people how to heal and prevent tooth cavities with whole foods. And “Healing Our Children ” which explains how our modern lifestyle causes a majority of diseases in our children.
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Re: Swine flu
Joy - what happened to your possible swine flu case?
I have had a phone call this morning and using the Herscu tool (excel version it reckoned my patient had the swine flu although she is not convinced because she doesn't reckon she has a high fever - just chilly and it is like the flu she had last January which Gelsenium kicked off. Interestingly she took 2 doses of Nux Vim on Sunday for a hangover and still felt rotten yesterday!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
I have had a phone call this morning and using the Herscu tool (excel version it reckoned my patient had the swine flu although she is not convinced because she doesn't reckon she has a high fever - just chilly and it is like the flu she had last January which Gelsenium kicked off. Interestingly she took 2 doses of Nux Vim on Sunday for a hangover and still felt rotten yesterday!!
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Re: Swine flu
Gave him Gels 200c - felt better almost instantly and even better the next day. nearly had another case but he got isolated, so will be too late now.
Unless swabs are taken and confirmed in a lab the rest is just guesswork and the amount of 'cooked books' going on now is ridiculous as stats are being invented yet again.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Unless swabs are taken and confirmed in a lab the rest is just guesswork and the amount of 'cooked books' going on now is ridiculous as stats are being invented yet again.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Re: Swine flu
Dear Joy,
Just for your information (and others) I phoned Helios to order some Nux Vom 200 MP as I haven't got much in and they said they are finding that Ars Iod/Gels/Eupat P. combo in 30C is working fine and I said funnily enough that is what I gave my patient this morning!!! I know you won't approve of that prescription but in clinical practice it has often worked very well in non specific flu for my patients
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Just for your information (and others) I phoned Helios to order some Nux Vom 200 MP as I haven't got much in and they said they are finding that Ars Iod/Gels/Eupat P. combo in 30C is working fine and I said funnily enough that is what I gave my patient this morning!!! I know you won't approve of that prescription but in clinical practice it has often worked very well in non specific flu for my patients
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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Re: Swine flu
what does it matter what allopaths might call it.
Just treat the symptom picture
Sheri
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Just treat the symptom picture
Sheri
At 03:58 AM 7/28/2009, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm & http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases Reality
Next classes start July 29 & 30
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Re: Swine flu
so helios are recommending combos now
just great (not)
Sheri
At 06:45 AM 7/28/2009, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm & http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases Reality
Next classes start July 29 & 30
just great (not)
Sheri
At 06:45 AM 7/28/2009, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm & http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases Reality
Next classes start July 29 & 30
Re: Swine flu
Why do you prescribe combos Rochelle? Who taught you to do this. How do you now what is working within that combo and what is not - after all that has been written here of late.
Joy
http://www.joylucashomeopathy.com
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/homeopathystudy/
Joy
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